He's supposed to be the best right?

He's supposed to be the best right?

More like best at bluffing

No he's the best left

How good is the port to iOS?
Also, how good is DS emulation?
Never had a DS since I was poor.

best at what, winning his cases solo? yes
bluffing? yes
being a genuine badass and putting his life on the line countless times? yes

>still waiting for an official Athena spinoff game/ iteration

said no one ever

It's a shame about AA5. Hands down the shittiest game of the main series. It's the only game that I stopped caring about and still haven't finished. I stopped at the last case, which in every other game was by far the best case and wrapped everything up nicely, but the "twist" is really fucking obvious and I just don't care enough to finish it. The only good case was the second Maya Kurain case, mainly because the callback to Steel Samurai.

Well it certainly isn't Trucy Wright.

>It's a shame about AA5. Hands down the shittiest game of the main series

That's a hot opinion you have there.

I played first three on my phone without any problems so emulation is pretty good.

Dual Destinies is the worst man, c'mon. At least AJ had good music.

I liked the dlc case a lot. It's too bad Punished Apollo didn't really become anything special though

It kind of helped that he kept getting clients that are actually innocent.

Mia was the best. Phoenix relies on bluffing and bumbling his way through cases, while Mia is always in control and always knows the answer to everything. Godot outright tells him that he is nowhere near as good as her.

The best Wright, anyway

>How good is the port to iOS?

Garbage. Emulate it.

>The only good case was the second Maya Kurain case, mainly because the callback to Steel Samurai.
>AA5

what?

Yet his fame exceeds Mia's. By the time of the third game he's become a well known attorney.

Not really, he just makes shit up until he gets it right.

It's honestly not his fault, the system is utter shit. He basically has to struggle and investigate just to get basic information on the case. Often he has to bluff just because he doesn't have the information to prepare a plan. Also often the whole case makes no sense before he steps into the courtroom, and he has to basically bait prosecution into giving him information on the case with dumb arguments that he knows for sure will be shot down, but at least they will be shot down with actual evidence. The clients that refuse to tell him anything don't help either, though this one is not a problem of the system, just of the retards they are. Again, he often has to interrogate them in the courtroom just so they can help the prosecution make their case stronger, because the alternative is just agreeing with the verdict.
I have no idea how was Mia able not to bluff in such a system.

Thanks for reminding me that I still need to finish Spirit of Justice.

I'll tell you the best setup to emulate the AA series

>get No$GBA
>get No$Zoomer (base emulator expansion with more features)
>detach top screen from bottom one
>increase the size of the top screen until you see fit
>increase the size of the bottom one to a size where you can see what's going on there while still being small enough for it not to cover much
add any bells and whistles you like from the settings and you're ready

One of my favorite things about this setup is that I can set the emulator to always stay on top of the screen and I would chat with people while playing the game in a reduced window size

I have no idea how was Mia able not to bluff in such a system
Probably her womanly charms helped ease prosecutors and witnesses to hand out the information to her. We've seen her do this with one of the witnesses after all.

>Emulating AJ

Why? The mobile version is crisp as fuck.

Mia is a lot more cutthroat and nasty than people give her credit for

Phoenix often gets taken in or scared or confused by the wacky witnesses

I wanted to demonstrate the setup so I went to my old laptop and to my surprise I still had the emulator and AJ there from years ago

I played the games on my DS but since the Microphone was busted I had to import the save to the emulator to beat that specific part in the screenshot where emma asks you to do the science stuff. After that I ported it back to the DS and kept playing.

I used this setup to replay the series however when I got a bigger screen and played from the couch

To be fair Nick is sarcastic as fuck in his inner monologues.

Well, he never actually won his cases solo. He always had help from his assistants/Mia. Then again, how helpful they were tended to vary.

Mind you, Polly and Athena have it pretty lucky. The help they receive usually tend to be way more useful than what Nick tended to get.

That's actually a good point. If it wasn't even for Mia's intrusion on the case with Redd White his head would literally be on the chopping block with only one case to his name.

I can't stand anything post the trilogy (except Investigations with Edgeworth) which is weird since I'm not usually that guy who bitches about anything new.

Athena and Apollo are so unbearable

Mia is it outwardly though

I like how AJ and AA5 show more of his personality from the eyes of others. He actually comes across as very competent and reasonable until put behind the attorney desk (which, as T&T shows when Edgeworth is put behind it, becomes obvious as to why. You simply can't win without bluffing your ass off). I've yet to play Spirit of Justice but I hope it continued this.

Well Mia is able to deduce everything about the case immediately, so she's always helpful. And that should speak volumes about how superior she is. She always knows the answer, and often just tries to give him hints instead of just telling him the answer since she wants him to figure it out himself. Meanwhile she never needed any help.

Plus wasn't she considered to be the greatest defensive attorney ever? She was certainly better paid than he was, so that probably means something. Because really, Phoenix is a bit of a dumbass.

>someone who has played the games honestly believes this

>The whole fucking point of this entire sequence was to show that Phoenix has taken everything he's learned from Mia to get as far as he did

I can actually stand Apollo's game to an extent, but anything after that is dull and uninteresting. Especially that last case in SoJ, it was obvious the Queen was the culprit from the very beginning from that outfit of hers, and the series was never that fully cliched in the original trilogy. There was also that bit with Apollo that could've been a very interesting twist if they revealed it in the trial, but they just slap you with a picture instead. Never mind hyping that bit of info, here's a photo out of nowhere.

Well he was a rookie after all. And Mia's handholding was way less extreme than Nick's. Nick basically carried Polly throughout AA4. Mia knew to keep her distance to some extent so that Nick could mature as an attorney.

Mind you, Nick kind of had more at stake than Mia did. Mia was already dead, but Nick had a lot on his shoulders, so I guess he had no choice but to handhold Polly as much as he did.

Still, if it's not Nick carrying Polly, then it's Athena being pretty much one of the best assistants in the series. Whatever you may think of her, she's still way more consistently helpful than the likes of Maya. The new kids have it too easy. Though now that Polly's set up his own shop, things might change. He's never really been completely on his own before.

>Plus wasn't she considered to be the greatest defensive attorney ever?

How is that relevant when she's dead

>Well Mia is able to deduce everything about the case immediately, so she's always helpful. And that should speak volumes about how superior she is. She always knows the answer, and often just tries to give him hints instead of just telling him the answer since she wants him to figure it out himself.

In the first three games that all occurred within 4~ years of eachother if my memory serves

>it's obvious who the villain was!

AA has never been about being a whodunit, it always was a howcatchum

Yeah, I've been replaying the first three games and in AA1 and 2 he's bailed out by Mia every single time barring 2-3. Say what you want about him seeming too insecure in AA5 and 6, but at least he's always playing the part of the helper for his subordinates and he doesn't need outside help himself.

>Well Mia is able to deduce everything about the case immediately
No she's not. Go back and play the games again. The only cases where she's able to immediately figure out what's going on are A) cases she's already intimately familiar with or B) cases involving the Fey clan. Any other case that she happens to get involved in and she's often just as clueless as Nick, if not moreso. For instance, in the Maggey case in AA3, the most help she's able to offer is using sex appeal to get a witness to talk. She also couldn't help as much with Von Karma because she had absolutely no idea of what happened with Edgeworth's dad.

Also to clarify no, essentially she was a prodigy that easily had the potential to get to that level but was taken before that time. That and the fact that she decided to mentor Phoenix somewhat hampered her career to a degree

Sure, but I mean if you can tell she's the villain just by looking at her without any sort of context that's a little bit too cartoony in my book. Matt Engarde may full into that same category as well, but that isn't until you actually find out his true nature.

Mia only took Nick under her wing fairly recently.

And she wasn't exactly invincible either. She's had her fair share of losses, and the fact that many of Nick's cases are actually continuations of Mia's unfinished ones should show you that she wasn't some lawyer god. Mind you, Mia IS the origin of many of Nick's techniques and general mentality in regards to being a defense attorney. But even with all her talk about "turning things around" and "never giving up", she still didn't have a flawless record.

I haven't played an AA game since DD so bear with me

>Pearl's Aunt
>L'Belle
>First case in every fucking game presents 2-3 witnesses, one of which is always obviously the culprit whether it was revealed in a prelude or not.

says it best

i'm not that user saying she was the best or better than Nick, i actually believe that Nick surpasses Mia in every conceivable way after Trials and Tribulations

>>Pearl's Aunt
I loved how they felt the need to include that scene where she tells Misty's picture to go fuck herself while donning the most evil smirk imaginable during the investigation.

Finished DD, was really good

>Just a lady sipping tea
>A fabulous man
I'm talking about appearances that aren't a walking stereotypes as far as villains go, user. If you can see a picture of them and get a villainous vibe from them without even playing the game it's bad character design. I don't care if you know they practiced the dirty deed as long if their character is given a bit of dignity.

I'm this user and i was literally about to ask if i was the only one that genuinely enjoyed every moment of Dual Destinies

By the way, Maya's aunt, not Pearl's. She's Pearl's mom.

I also liked AJ. Heck, I like all of the games.

i have not played Spirit of Justice

Disclaimer

Put i defer back to this user

It's a fun video game with no real bad cases in it

And quite frankly i have little motivation to play Spirit of Justice, mainly because i've heard of and seen the (?) prosecutor

And I defer you back to this
>I don't care if you know they practiced the dirty deed as long if their character is given a bit of dignity.
Fucking read

>Just a lady sipping tea

There are times in the original trilogy that even Mia's taken aback by Nick's bizarre leaps of logic that actually turn out to be true.

There is ONE thing that divides the two, though. Based on what we've seen throughout the series, Mia was very meticulous. She carefully gathered and documented as many of the facts as she could. That's why it often seemed like she had all the answers; many of Link's cases were ones that Mia was personally familiar with. They were cases that Mia studied in and out.

Nick, on the other hand, is a fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants type. Not out of choice, mind you, but even with comparatively minimal information, Nick is very good at using bluffs, intimidation and using logic to twist his opponents around his finger to get the answers he needs. That may be something that he surpasses Mia in. From various comments, it seems that Mia was never as good as intimidation and bluffs as Nick was.

Do I have to spell it out to you people? Character design. The problem I have is character design.

>Nick, on the other hand, is a fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants type. Not out of choice, mind you
>Not out of choice, mind you

I honestly believe that this is what enables Phoenix to operate the way he does, often with confidence;he thrives in the high-stake low-resource environment

>Mia
>Literally nobody knows who she is
>Only source on how great she is is her fucking bumbling mentor Grossberg and the worst prosecutor Godot
>She gets her client killed in her first case
>So BTFO that she cries and does nothing for a year
>Can only win against a literal who prosecutor like Payne
>Investigated a corrupt corporate exec like Redd White alone and got BTFO again
>Everyone only cares about her looks

She's literally worse than Athena.

SoJ is great, user

Don't let monk man dissuade you

He was thrown to the wolves from his second case on. He had to either toughen up or get devoured. Life was not kind towards Phoenix Wright.

Character design has been the same since T&T, user

unless you specifically like the character design of AA1 and 2, in which case fair enough

>the killer you
jesus cristo

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I want to post but I'm yet to start SoJ, feels bad

These jokes and banters usually fly above my head considering I am too focused on how to move on to the next lines and stuff, but hot dang are the bants breddy gud in PW

After watching DGS, I like Ryunosuke way more than Nick.

>localization never
>switch port never

>i have no idea what im doing but i win everytime because im the creators pet
>geniuine badass
surely you jest

About half of the reason i play AA is because of the dialogue, other half for Nick and Co.

>Now i wait for the next AA announcement

P.S. How much are Athena/Apollo involved in SoJ

>dem pec curves
please tell me theres porn of him

Fan translation 'eventually' famalam

DGS introduced so many quality waifus like Gina and Susato

>P.S. How much are Athena/Apollo involved in SoJ
Athena not too much, she gets one case to herself and she's the main assistant in one and most of another.

Apollo is the main character, more than he was in AJ.

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Athena is almost nonexistent in this game.
It's actually more of Apollo's game than it is Nick's.

>Apollo is the main character
FUCK
NOW I HAVE TO BUY IT

Best at being a scumbag who cheats his shady clients to victory?

Is the one on the right supposed to be some magical Dutch pixie

She's a cute British loli that created primitive forensic science.

I want to protect this commie's smile!

where can i find all the animations? i heard /aaog/ had them for SoJ and DD too

There's an attorney online general on /vg/ that has them.

>t.Kristoph

AA4 and AA2 are a lot worse than AA5 though.

>DD in great tier

Shit and discarded.

tfw haven't played investigations
>everyone says 1 is garbage
>everyone says 2 is godlike
fuck

we were having decent discussion and respecting eachother's opinions

could you not

>Dual Destinies
>Great
Yea if you like fillers.

>tfw you think AA1 is overrated compared to everything else

>everyone says 1 is garbage
they just can't handle the EXTRATERRITORIAL RIGHTS

Fuck you. Dual Destinies is good. You just have shit taste.

Is this what it's like in EU hours?

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This.

People throw too much of a fit for the whole "Extraterritorial right" thing. I thought it was a bit long, but I feel satisfied beating it, then I come to Sup Forums and see people bitching about it endlesly.

>not posting the only correct tier-list

This is the correct list.
You are welcome.

Too much butthurt about handholding and simplified investigations when
>Series was never hard
>Investigations were the worst part of the game and they made it faster.

I rate them based on the characters interactions, case writing/pacing/enjoyment, OST...

>EXTRATERRITORIAL RIGHTS
this can't be good