Basically Zelda unflooded Hyrule, let Link take the Master Sword and free Ganon (again)...

Basically Zelda unflooded Hyrule, let Link take the Master Sword and free Ganon (again). Fortunally the Divine Beasts stopped him the first time, but the second one.

Why is Zelda a retard?

No

>Zelda can be a ninja, a pirate and a ghost possessing a suit of armor
>Zelda can't be a magitech scholar
What was the King's problem?

BotW takes place so far in the future that the Sheikah thrived, were forgotten, then were discovered again, and also Ganon had resurrected so many times that he was officially tired of this shit and gave up his powers in order to make a last ditch attempt at fulfilling his purpose.

20,000 years minimum

I mean out of all of the timelines, BOTW is certainly least likely to be in the Wind Waker timeline so no, not at all.

at the end of WW Ganondorf didn't have the Triforce and couldn't transform into Ganon BUT i supposed by removing the MS Zelda gave power to it again...

ITT: Unconfirmed fan theories

Except it is, koroks look exactly like in WW

BotW is post TP user. Listen to Zeldas speech when knighting Link.

That's link

When and which zelda removed the master sword?

Irrelevant. The Kokiri's natural evolution is clearly the Korok. Some Zora managed to evolve to Rito, others stayed as they were living in the waters.

It's child timelime.

It's a merger.

Can confirm just listened to it, haven't played BotW but I'm not a fan of Zelda's voice

No way, artstyle and landscape are ww, seeds are not irrelevant, they are literally the same, fuck the child timeline

Does the Rito area get any lore? Zora and Gerudo are fully fleshed out and Goron talks about how important mining ore is to them. I wanted to know if the Rito area had anything besides singing and archery.

The Korok argument is literally the dumbest argument.

It's established in other Zelda games that moblins and bokoblins didn't come into existence until Ganondorf became Ganon, yet they're in Minish Cap and Skyward Sword.

The Sheikah went extinct besides Impa shortly before OoT, but there's a fucking village of them in BOTW.

Nintendo develops these games by taking pieces of the other games that they think would be cool. Aonuma has stated before that they created the entire game without thinking about timeline placement and that timeline placement for BOTW was one of the last things that was decided, and that there are only a few hints of where it lies in the game.

It's not child timeline. The beasts are named after the sages from OoT. They never became realized sages in the Child Timeline. It's downfall timeline.

Anyone who says anything against BotW being in WW timeline should be purged

>actually calling it 'downfall' timeline

HAH, entry level lore pleb

Reminder child timeline is impossible.

This.

Possible, but the speech references the child timeline strongly.

Yeah fuck her VA.

Irrelevent. The games art style is not indicative of timeline placement. The Koroks are simply evolved Kokiri.

I don't recall much, other than the rock they live on is where their civilisation was established.

At the end of OoT, Link is sent back to before the events of the game with all the information he had from the adventure. Just because on this occasion the sages weren't awakened, isn't to say that they weren't awakened eventually.

Alternatively, it's simply a naming convention. The only one that's outright mentioned in the story is Noboru, who was the leader of the Gerudo a long time ago and thus relevant in the timeline.

Whats to say they didn't become sages or links telling of events as an adult didn't become part of history?

It's literally confirmed by the game to be child timeline

Reminder that there is evidence for both Child and Adult timeline as well but all the downfall cucks have is "muh koroks"

Twilight Princess confirms that they never awakened as sages.

Twilight can mean literally anything related to Ganon and darkness, retard. Would you not call Ganon's reign "twilight"?

>Long, long ago... In a past more distant than even the Great Calamity or the creation of the Divine Beast Vah Ruta… There was a Zora princess named Ruto. We know that she was an attendant to the Zora patron deity and that she was a fair and lively girl, beloved to all. Around that same time, an evil man with designs on ruling the world appeared, bringing disaster upon Zora's Domain. It is said that Ruto then awoke as a sage, facing this foe alongside the princess of Hyrule and the hero of legend. Her achievements are remembered not only by the Zora, they are also forever etched in the history of Hyrule. The Divine Beast Vah Ruta, built ages later to face off against Calamity Ganon, was named in honor of Ruto. That the Zora princess-my sweet daughter Mipha-was chosen to pilot Ruta is surely the work of fate.
Child timeline literally impossible.

>Twilight Princess confirms that they never awakened as sages.
Are you talking of the alternate sages?

You're stretching the scene to conform to your level of wrong.

Reminder that there is no fucking timeline and the only reason an """official""" one exists was to trick you autists into buying Hyrule Historia

wrong

Wind Waker says otherwise.

Yes. As in the essence of the sages. As in the spirits, because the sages themselves never awakened.

Because they say the fucking word 'twilight' gtfo with that shit nigger

You're literally twisting the cutscene to your perception

TP doesn't confirm shit
Sages have never really meant shit to these games and we all learned that after oot gave use a group of different races when in lttp the maidens were decendents of the sages.

>There was a Zora princess named Ruto. We know that she was an attendant to the Zora patron deity and that she was a fair and lively girl, beloved to all. Around that same time, an evil man with designs on ruling the world appeared, bringing disaster upon Zora's Domain. It is said that Ruto then awoke as a sage, facing this foe alongside the princess of Hyrule and the hero of legend. Her achievements are remembered not only by the Zora, they are also forever etched in the history of Hyrule.

He isn't just talking about ruto being a sage but about the fucking ENDING OF OOT

In the child timeline that ending NEVER HAPPENED

BotW takes place in WW timeline and only dumb redditors or youtube 'personalities' think otherwise

>Fishbitch still mad

Go back to your grave Mipha

Its like no one remembers phantom hourglass or spirit tracks

Nope, it's incredibly simple, Link reiterated what happened in the future to the king and Zelda when he went back, that was etched into history, it's not in the Adult timeline, not even close. This isn't New Hyrule

>Long, long ago... In a past more distant than even the Great Calamity or the creation of the Divine Beast Vah Ruta… There was a Zora princess named Ruto. We know that she was an attendant to the Zora patron deity and that she was a fair and lively girl, beloved to all. Around that same time, an evil man with designs on ruling the world appeared, bringing disaster upon Zora's Domain. It is said that Ruto then awoke as a sage, facing this foe alongside the princess of Hyrule and the hero of legend. Her achievements are remembered not only by the Zora, they are also forever etched in the history of Hyrule. The Divine Beast Vah Ruta, built ages later to face off against Calamity Ganon, was named in honor of Ruto. That the Zora princess-my sweet daughter Mipha-was chosen to pilot Ruta is surely the work of fate.
Where was this referenced?

don't rule out the fact that after Link exposed his shit they still didn't go to war
Would explain some things in TP

So everyone agrees she's best girl, right?

>Would explain some things in TP
like what

Wrong again, child link wasn't treated like fucking jesus and his every word was not treated like fucking gospel, he died like a irrelevant cuck too

Explain the Zora

>Link never speaks according to Zelda's diary
>Link talks all the time and is a snarky fucker to npcs
???

Linkyyyy!!!
I fell in love with her after that...SNAP!

I don't think you're supposed to take her diary seriously with that line, she said in the memories that she took his advice with her horse, he clearly told her about how to do that

Zora tablets. They're hidden all around the Zora domain and theres a sidequest to find them all.

>What was the King's problem?

tbf the King didn't know about any of those, except the pirate, and immediately after meeting pirate he turned her back into a princess.

>Zelda was already aware of Ganondorf's evil intentions through her prophetic dream, which she related to her father, the king, who did not believe her. It is more likely that Link told Zelda to take additional precautions to prevent Ganondorf's entering the Sacred Realm, the most obvious of which would be to leave the Sacred Realm sealed instead of unwittingly opening it as they had done in the Adult Timeline. However, exactly what Link told Zelda and what actions they did or did not take is unknown

The king didn't believe his own daughter and he's gonna trust some random 12 year old faggot and make his words history? GTFO with that shit

Oh please, don't tell me you think that the king would turn a blind eye to a kid with the triforce of courage clear as day on his hand.

>the speech references the child timeline strongly.

The game references everything. That's why it's a merger.

There's a clear difference between a mountain or island with a nod to a game and an important cutscene making a direct reference to a previous title. It's not a merger

read the whole diary, she got him to open up

Not that user but honestly I just thought it was Nintendo making a funny by referencing previous games. Like name dropping, really. I didn't think much of it myself.

Why must Nintendo throw all these shenanigans in here? They give evidence for both child and adult timelines, I swear they just like fucking with us.

I honestly don't understand all the people that earnestly WANT the game to be in the adult timeline, let alone actually believe it is. In the end of WW the King wishes for Hyrule to be washed away by the sea and forgotten. The goddesses oblige his wish. This is shown in the sequels where they are in a completely new land known as New Hyrule. It is always called New Hyrule. The villains are no longer known as Ganon because Ganon, due to the wish, is forgotten so the curse of Demise had to take on a new name. If BotW is set in the adult timeline it shits all over the end of WW. Why would people that like a game enough to willfully ignore copious amounts of evidence that another game doesn't take place in its timeline want to shit all over the ending, and the entire narrative impact, of their beloved game?

Itt: we pretend to understand the loz: timeline

What evidence is there for the child timeline? Because a guy says the word twilight in the first easy to get memory for all the retards playing the game to get? Sure is fucking reddit ITT

Link is quiet and doesn't talk much according to Zelda. Even in his responses in the game, they're short and snappy, Link isn't very wordy either way.

Theoretically, could someone place where the game is by all the different names for landmarks? A lot of lakes and mountains and stuff are named after characters in the series. So like, if they never mention anyone from Windwaker or something does that imply Windwaker never happened in this timeline?

It's the superior contrarian opinion, reddit says child timeline, we go with adult link

What if BOTW is in its own separate timeline?

You're all wrong it's obviously a timeline merger.

Dropping a random line is not proof of anything.

Forth timeline? Nah, it fits too good in the adult link timeline

You're dense as fuck

I didn't know you were autistic enough to be angry over a timeline in a fucking video game ;)

They mention the ending of OoT, that cancels out the chil link timeline

child*

>Why must Nintendo throw all these shenanigans in here?
Because the odds are nobody at Nintendo is writing this shit down or gives a damn in the first place. Zelda's story has never been the selling point of the game, and the devs know this. They want to give you just enough of a reason to care about saving Hyrule for the umpteenth time, but things like continuity details clearly don't matter to whoever is writing the story.

One of the Zora tablets mentions Princess Ruto from OoT directly, even going into detail about her and Zora's Domain. It's 100% post Ocarina timeline.

I was disappointed to see it wasn't in the Failed timeline.

Honestly, the only bit of evidence for the child timeline is a single word and some named locations. To me, personally, that just seems like little nods like they've done throughout the entire series.

Having the game explicitly reference another game through referencing the events seems like a bigger deal.

I would also think that if this game did take place like, after 20,000 years after OOT, Hyrule would actually have better tech. Even before Calamity Ganon struck, they were just figuring out hot to use the ancient Sheika tech. It makes me wonder if Hyrule was just doomed to be in the middle ages.

All the timelines are post ocarina timeline.

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
While it's compelling, there's still the little problem of there being a minimum of a 10,000 year gap between games.

The farther you go from a split in time(in this case, OoT), the less changes there are. That's why immediately after the timeline split there are a lot of changes, but as time goes on there are less and less and they begin to look a bit similar.

For all we know this is so far down the timeline that it doesn't matter what timeline it is, all of them will end in this.

>Rito have not appeared in any other Zelda games to date - and fans have considered them unique to the series' timeline branch in which Wind Waker sits.

>The same can be said of the Koroks, an evolved form of the Kokiri tribe, which were also previously shown in Breath of the Wild.

>Wind Waker's Great Deku Tree and shopkeeper Beedle are also back in Breath of the Wild

More proofs

why the fuck does hieroglyph link have a flowing red mane anyway

I never talked to Beedle ever again when I found out he just sells arrows. Did I miss out on much?

To be fair, child and downfall have the most evidence for them while WW has a lot of evidence against it.

Child
>Twilight Line
>possibly Darmani, definitely Goron baby from MM carved into mountain
>mirror of twilight looking object in game
>arbiter's grounds
>great bridge of eldin
>architecture of hyrule castle

Downfall
>triforce is not split into three parts but is one whole piece and wielded by a single person (biggest piece of evidence to me)
>sages were around
>Sheikah are still a thing
>Yiga clan exists
>master sword placement


Evidence against Adult timeline
>Sheikah still exist
>Gorons not endangered
>Zora exist
>not set in New Hyrule (biggest evidence against any timeline since Hyrule was wished away by omnipotent powers)
>technology of spirit tracks nowhere to be found
>Sword is not lodged in Dorf's head

Evidence for adult timeline and why it isn't good evidence
>leviathan bones - multiple games have had leviathan creatures, including but not limited to OoT and SS, notably, SS had Levias who closely resembled the bones seen in game
>rock salt - WW is not the only game to feature a giant sea. Notably, SS had a giant, explicitly ancient, sea
>koroks - there is no evidence that the flood was the instrumental variable in turning the kokiri into the koroks and their transformation could have had many other causes, mainly the magic power of the guardian deity tree who would want to protect them from CG
>writings about ruto - in the downfall timeline Ruto was awakened as a sage and sealed ganon, further, it is not beyond reason that ruto could have awoken as a sage after the execution of dorf in TP, she was a child at the time, the water sage died, they would need a new one, ergo, water sage
>rito - not only do the Rito in WW differ greatly from the BotW version, we also see a corrupted version of the rito, bearing a striking resemblance to their BotW version, in the downfall timeline by the name of Flocca (probably spelled it wrong)

Also Spirit tracks was the only Zelda game where Hyrule had advanced technology.

Why does everyone insist on continuing this timeline argument? We already pretty much have every piece of evidence that's going to appear, and none of it is enough to definitively prove anything or we'd all agree.
Let's just all agree that there's some compelling evidence for all theories and none of it is strong enough to prove it one way or another yet and stop being so fucking autistic and screaming at one another about shit we already know.

>Did I miss out on much?
Depends on how much you like arrows. I'm not autistic enough to want to run in circles and pick up arrows 1 at a time from the lizalfos shooting at me, and I use the bows a whole fucking lot. Beedle selling arrows is awesome because I always feel like I need them.

>something like 90+ of most arrow types
>300+ shock arrows because fucking Lynels

The child timeline technically starts near the beginning of OoT, not after it.

Kind of. Firstly, Beedle loves beetles and he'll try to trade items for them. Some of them are worth it, most of the time he's ripping you off. He'll even be pretty agitated if you refuse to trade, including muttering about how he plans to rob you later

Also, Beedle sells different things in different locations. He seems to always sell arrows as the first two slots and then different critters for the other 3 slots.

So we can all agree that Urbosa is best girl right? Followed closely by Paya.

Thanks for the list of arguments user. But you forgot
>Child
>Castle Town achitecture

The real question is whether or not Urbosa is gay for Zelda

And OoT ends near the beginning of OoT

Also, I personally think this is Nintendo saying fuck the timeline. After actually putting it together, to have so much conflicting information was definitely deliberate and makes me hope that they will go back to the games being largely self contained legends.

>but muh references

Precisely that, just references.

> not eyebrow-chan

So what, they're pulling a Shadow the Hedgehog?

>Game has 10 different endings, which covers most of the theories fans have about Shadow (ie: did he die at the end of SA2, is he an android, etc)
>Game has secret 11th ending
>11th ending ends with Shadow going "You know what? I actually don't care about my past anymore"
>That's it

How the hell did this guy become a recurring character?

No, I don't think they're that explicit about it. They are just saying fuck it, these are all legends, we can do what we want with them. Shit, doesn't Impa say at one point that most of the details of the past legends were lost with time?

...

>Nintendo saying fuck the timeline
I feel the same way. The series started without timelines, and they eventually were semi-forced to make sense of their games. And from that all they got was a strict set of rules to follow when making new games. It'd make sense that they just forget all out it.

oooh

so this is why we should be partial porn posters; all they do is derail and shitpost

Probably, but she also knew she belonged with Link

Now, if Link ever got that message...