I just realized that Ocarina of Time is a harem anime with all the harem anime trope characters

I just realized that Ocarina of Time is a harem anime with all the harem anime trope characters.

Heck even Nabooru wanted that Hero of Time D when he was just a little boy.

My childhood is a lie.

that's not what a harem is and you know it

I said harem anime. A harem anime doesn't actually have a harem, but a male character thrown in among a bunch of potential female love interests. The male character's feelings for each of them are left ambivalent so that the viewer can project his preferences onto him. It's a cheap and very effective trick to grab teenage boy consumers by the balls.

Wrong.

Face it buddy. The harem anime stereotypes are ALL THERE:

- The trophy girl: Zelda
- The tomboy: Malon
- The loli: Saria
- The tsundere: Ruto
- The mature woman into younger guys: Nabooru

This is not a coincidence.

Nigga you put a lot of deep analytical thought into something I only jerked off to for two minutes with the sound turned dow .

What about the Gorons? And even Ganondorf? Check and mate, beautiful!

...Yes, what about them?

I put about 2 minutes into figuring this out.

The gorons even try to rape Link

>tfw somebody convinced me OoT was filled with harem anime tropes when I complained BoTW was getting too anime for me
>tfw somebody pointed out Zelda's always been full of waifu pandering since LTTP and miyamoto emphasizes how important memorable girls were in OoT

>The loli: Saria
Wouldn't she fit better under childhood friend?

Let's say she's both. I mean, Harem anime often have a loli to pander to lolicons and I feel like, coming from Nintendo, that's a much more shocking move than the childhood friend thing.

harem anime is anime that keeps the main character from making any real romantic choices in light of the complex and overwhelming amount of choices.

Link doesn't have nearly as many options, Ruto, Saria, Zelda and I think Nabooru are the only females in the game, and half of them are just interested in Link, not in Link as a person, not Link as a hero, not Link as a boy, just his identity as a Hylian. If you judge that based on every harem anecdote there's ever been you'd be reaching pretty far to decide whether or not it's harem material.

>Link is even a self- insert
It all makes sense.

Freud was right. Fucking nips.

The important is it gives the player material to project on Link and fantasize getting the girl of his choice.

Also you forgot Malon.

Don't forget Malon. She's cute af.

Marin > Malon

All girls are Linksexual in good Zelda games.

Also there's hints all over the game that girls want the D:

- Zelda is the damsel in distress, so it's heavily implied.
- According to a Gossip Stone, Malon fantasizes of being swept of her feet by a knight in shining armor. Basically Link and Epona when he saves the ranch.
- Ruto is very obviously crushing on Link and in denial about it.
- Saria seems like she wanted to confess to him before he left for the woods and she obviously cares deeply for him.
- Nabooru hints to Link that she'll "do something greatl" if he gets her the glove. That's barely subtle.

That's stupid.

>this game is fantasy because it has material enabling me to fantasize about the content

it doesn't work that way.

If TP is any indication, Malon is canon.

There was at least one romance-baiting scene with each one of the girls you mentioned plus Malon.

- Saria: the general setup of her being the only Kokiri who likes Link since before he gets a fairy, the scene on the bridge as he's leaving the forest;
- Zelda: the scene at the end where Link gives her the Ocarina of Time back and her hand lingers on his;
- Malon: the Gossip Stone revealing her wish is for a knight to come sweep her off her feet and Talon asking Link if he wants to marry her when he's older;
- Ruto: duh, the marriage proposal;
- Nabooru: her promise to young Link which was apparently sexual in nature given how she comments that she would've kept it had she known how handsome he'd become.

It was definitely a harem anime, just like BotW is.

>heavily implied
>the main love interest is compassionate to the hero, of course she wants the D
>meanwhile all these other girls clearly want Link for his genetalia,
>Ruto rooting for Link because she's clearly not happy Link has saved her and Jabun
>Saria clearly apprehensive about past feelings and unable to express them due to being a midget
>Nabooru is l i t e r a l l y explaining that Link and her are going to bang

this is what I mean, you're reaching so far for something that isn't even sensible logically. at best you could write a doujin and have a creative spin on things but the game itself isn't a harem

Ruto flat-out gives you a stone for marriage. Don't tell me that she doesn't want the Link D.

Just because it doesn't spoonfeed it to you doesn't mean it's not intended. It's called "subtlety". It allows you to put more in a story than the eye can see. If OOT had been written like your typical modern harem anime cringefest where the main male cast is constantly and unrealistically subjected to sexual tension between him and the girls, it wouldn't have sold very well with the western audience.

Because she has literally fuck all to do with Link emotionally besides the fact that no one is her age and she comes from a royal family where marriage is probably decided for her

How is that "deep and moving romantic comedy?"

Calm down, "wanting the D" was just a figure of speech. I mean they're crushing on him. Ruto outright proposes to Link. That's not even subtle or hinted to.

>"deep and moving romantic comedy?"
We are talking about harem anime yah?

Who said anything about the hints needing to be well-written or deep to count?

That doesn't seem very harem-esque to me. What you're describing is a love triangle, possibly a romantic thriller, hell even a romance fantasy, but it's not a harem.

I feel like OoT was better at presenting the girls generally. Like, in BoTW, Zelda, Urbosa, and Riju had established personalities which made them fairly likable. But Mipha seemed like she didn't really have enough of a displayed personality to be truly endearing. She was just nice.

She acts tsundere with Link the whole time he has to carry her through lord Jabu-Jabu.

Your denial about this is starting to get really cringy. Is the premise that the characters are crushing on Link against some head-canon that will break your heart if it's confirmed impossible?

Yeah but that doesn't mean she's contesting with five other women to get inside his pants.

>Associating anime shit to a game that doesn't contain in any way and has nothing to do with anime
I wish all the weebs to fuck off from here, truly the cancer ruining this board.

There are men in the game. In both timelines.
> a bunch of potential female love interests.
The only actual one of those is Ruto. Saria, Zelda, and Malon are not. You'd know that if you played the game and weren't the insane shut-in you are.

> grab teenage boy consumers by the balls
No-one pays attention to this shit when the Great Faries are in swimsuits and some girl in the shop has tits or whatever. Go ahead and lurk OoT threads if you don't believe me.

No wonder it appeals to retards.

Like I said, there's romantic undertones in his relationships with all the other girls, and he never seals the deal with any of them. Ruto is just an exception because her blunt proposal makes light of her firey personality and of the culture shock with Zora culture.

That's exactly how harem anime does things: Subtle hints of romance to trigger the fantasies within the viewer, and explicit romance is an exception to make periodic plot points. Explicit romance in harem anime never succeeds, but it never fails for explicit reasons because, to allow the viewer to keep fantasizing that his preferred pairing is possible, all options must be left open.

I guess the issue was never seeing her first meeting with Link nor their regular interactions due to her situation, the one scene from the past we're given isn't enough to fully explore the depth of their relationship. Compare her to Saria, whom we see interact with Link from the start of the game and then they can chat through the Ocarina for the rest of it.

And talking about BotW, a good comparison would be Paya. We see her first meeting with Link, we get to know her personality through cutscenes and a sidequest, we know that she's been fantasizing about Link for a long time since Impa always talked about him, and then there are all her silly endearing quirks like offering to tell Link where her birthmark is "another day" or mumbling his name in her sleep. Being actually alive at the time of the game lets her be much better established.

Polygamy is an abomination.

Yeah but you keep defaulting to what harem anime does and not what it is. I could argue up and down that the Bible is a poem, or that Gilgamesh is a long piece of prose by setting it up against the worlds best novels, but that doesn't detract from what it is. You can't just say it behaves like one thing, and then as soon as it becomes convenient to call it another, you switch the genre.

For it to be a harem anime, it has to have at least two or more people contesting or fighting over the main character's love and attention, just because Link is surrounded by people who love him doesn't make it a harem anime. That would make Starfox a harem anime, that would even make Final Fantasy Tactics a harem video game. It's stupid and the list of similarities never end because you don't accurately define the content and just use harem as an excuse to call women or men topical icons for sexual beacons.

Deal with it edgelord.

Ruto is not a potential love interest, she's a fucking Zora. But she loves Link.

How are Saria, Zelda and Malon not potential love interests? They like Link and they're girls.

>No-one pays attention to this shit when the Great Faries are in swimsuits and some girl in the shop has tits or whatever. Go ahead and lurk OoT threads if you don't believe me.
The harem anime angle is too subtle to outshine individual female characters, especially for imageboard dwellers who just want quick jerk off material. But it appeals to more hormone-driven audiences who fall in love with everything that has a vagina.

Now you know why Majora's Mask is better.

>That would make Starfox a harem anime
Wh-who are the multiple people who love Fox?

>HURR DURR EDGY XD
Fuck off, reddit. NOT AN ARGUMENT.

Because it had better /ss/?

You mean the game that went full ecchi pandering?

Slippy, Falco, Wolf.

>For it to be a harem anime, it has to have at least two or more people contesting or fighting over the main character's love and attention
Wrong. Many harem anime do not have girls fighting for the main character. In fact, it's a lot more interesting, although less gratuitous, when they don't. Love Hina is possible one of the most outstanding examples.

MM story revolves around a never ending apocalypse.

There was a whole series of manga based on Ocarina of Time which went in depth into the relationships Link has with other characters.

>Love Hina
It was all the rage when OoT came out. Coincidence? I think not.

>- Zelda is the damsel in distress, so it's heavily implied.
She spends most of the Adult timeline dressed as a man. There are more Sheik gar fans than OoT L/Z shippers.

>- According to a Gossip Stone, Malon fantasizes of being swept of her feet by a knight in shining armor.
The gossip stones also say that Gerudo's go swinging in Castle Town. I wouldn' read too much into it.

>- Ruto is very obviously crushing on Link and in denial about it.
Wrong. Ruto outright orders Link to be her husband. Repeatedly reminds him of it as an Adult. Denial my ass. Your headcanon is arseways

>- Saria seems like she wanted to confess to him before he left for the woods and she obviously cares deeply for him.
You have miserably failed to understand why Saria is sad, or the purpose of her role in a story her role in a game where the main character suddenly "grows up".

>- Nabooru hints to Link that she'll "do something greatl" if he gets her the glove.
Give us a break. Also not equivalent to others on your list.

The apocalypse ends pretty darn quick. The story revolves around the people at the end of the world, and a good number of those people want to get inside Link's shota short pants.

Literally not a harem anime. The game barely touches on any of the relationships and you're digging deep to find meaning.

Given enough data, you find anything anywhere.

>The gossip stones also say that Gerudo's go swinging in Castle Town. I wouldn' read too much into it.
That's true though? We just don't see it in OoT but it's canon that they leave the desert to pick up men.

>She spends most of the Adult timeline dressed as a man. There are more Sheik gar fans than OoT L/Z shippers.
Yeah, she keeps stalking Link's hot ass throughout his whole quest while disguised as a dude. She's crazy for him.

>The gossip stones also say that Gerudo's go swinging in Castle Town. I wouldn' read too much into it.
And that's also a fact. What's your point?

>Wrong. Ruto outright orders Link to be her husband. Repeatedly reminds him of it as an Adult. Denial my ass. Your headcanon is arseways
I just forgot this detail, but it actually fucking proves my point further, dumbass.

>You have miserably failed to understand why Saria is sad, or the purpose of her role in a story her role in a game where the main character suddenly "grows up".
Let's talk about Saria when you're able to actually make a complete point about her, or a legible sentence.

>Give us a break. Also not equivalent to others on your list.
Denial. Learn to read subtext. Also what do you mean? It's more sexual than romantic? That doesn't stray from harem anime tropes at all.

>you'll never live a comfy life tending to a farm with two 10/10 sisters
Why live?

Katt, Krystal, Husky

>furshit
>straight

>play a popular japanese game
>all the female characters are harem anime tropes
>this has been the japan standard since the 90s
>recent and upcoming games already doubled down on this trope

You know what I mean. You can't go around calling everything a harem.

It's for your benefit, I'm trying to help you.

What about Bill?!