Would the traitor be a little less obvious if these things were changed:

Would the traitor be a little less obvious if these things were changed:

He wasn't the last member to join
He stuck around for more than a single dungeon.
He was more featured in promotional art

I feel like the traitor's personality makes it obvious that the traitor will be the traitor. The other stuff you mentioned just beats you over the head with it and makes it super obvious.

The traitor's identity isn't the surprising part. The real mindfuck is that the Phantom Thieves were one step ahead of him the whole time

It was obvious Akechi was the traitor the moment he joined you. His proposal was way too good to be true. the real shocker was slowly finding out igor was the demiurge, though that makes no sense in and of itself since it's explicitly stated igor is stronger than a velvet room assistant who themselves are as strong as the gods.

This

He was supposed to be an obvious antagonist. They wanted to do the detective vs thief trope and since you're the good guy it makes sense he was a psycho.

This was really great to me because usually these games just say their details constantly.

The fact they hid the plan from the player for an entire ingame month? Amazing.

>He was supposed to be an obvious antagonist. They wanted to do the detective vs thief trope and since you're the good guy it makes sense he was a psycho.

This. He was the Sherlock to your Lupin.

You think you got your game
Planned out
To a T
Yet I'm two
Steps ahead yeah
So... you step into my way
Stand down
It's a trap
One more step
And you're dead
(Yeah you're dead)

Yeah he was a nicely done villain. Shido and evil Igor were not so good though.

Shido and Igor weren't great but what they represented was well done.

In a game about changing society, an election and politician plotline is a near necessity and Shido was kind of scary in how competent and charming he was. I could do without his lame connection to Goro though, both of them should have been standalone villains apart from each other.

The cool thing about Yaldabaoth to me was the neat idea that humanity constructed a palace and made Christian gods the basis, it fit with the rest of the Palace mechanics really well instead of just being a real god descending to Earth like in other Persona games. Again though, they could have done this without having to make Igor look incompetent so you're kind of correct that it could have been another standalone villain.

The best part about Igor was that his voice was fucked for a reason

>being happy that a character like Akechi with his work background didn't suspect obvious wiretapping when a hacker grabbed his phone and was dumbed down for plot reasons

Sorry lads, Atlus wasn't impressive this time

to be fair this was kind of bullshit. She had it for like what, 5 seconds? and didn't attach/plug anything into it. How the fuck would she be able to hack it?

>tfw already spoiled months ahead about the ruse and false Igor
I should have stopped browsing Sup Forums after Jap release.

How did Atlus do it?

How did they manage to make the WORST video game character to ever exist?

This fucker takes the worst aspects of
>Junpei
>Yosuke
>Teddie
>Yuichi
>Six
>Brown
>the entire cast of IVA
>Daisuke
>edgelord from Ultimax

and manages to make everything this furry shithead say and do piss me off to no end.
Him even just casually chiming in raises my blood pressure, because it's never even something helpful.
>WOW FUCK YOU RYUJI
>LET'S NOT DO THAT TODAY
>HEY RYUJI, FUCK YOU
>HOLY SHIT YOU'RE STUPID, YOU'RE GOING TO FAIL YOUR TEST
>RYUJI?
>FUCK YOU
>LET'S. JUST. GET. SOME. SLEEP. FUCK YOUR S-LINKS

Not only does he twist your arm into being Phantom Thieves, he goes and jumps ship by betraying you the moment things go South.
>HURRHURR IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE FAME
The furry nigger said from the VERY START you had to be flashy and show off.

Then he gets someone who can't summon her Persona in danger several times, blames you, tells Ryuji to fuck off again, then comes crawling back when Haru's fiance rightfully kicks that little shit like the winning field goal.

And the CONSTANT FUCKING REMINDER THAT HE THINK'S HE'S HUMAN.
Every god damned hour he has to remind you all about how "human" he's going to turn out to be, as if that would change anyone's opinion on how much of a piece of shit he is in the slightest.

Fuck Morgana, fuck Atlus, and fuck you assholes who try and justify this furry waste of my time

I think Ryuji is worse.

this is one thing that makes P5 inferior to FF15.

>FF15 title screen changes after beating the game
>P5 Opening cinematic doesn't change when Akechi is revealed

>igor look incompetent

Igor looked pretty competent. All he has to do is sit smugly in his cell and wait.

It doesn't help that his name was litearlly A--chi and was a detective. I'm surprised he didn't come right out and say "Oh by the way my father was Tohru Adachi and he taught me everything I need to know about bringing justice to the world!"

How much does he know about futaba, though? He hasn't been in the gang that long and they're already suspicious of him from the 2nd interaction.

I'm still playing it and was spoiled back in September, but it's so fucking obvious he's going to be the one to betray you even knowing it.

>being a Ryuji sympathizer

Morgana is best boy, you need to stay well rested.

the voice part really surprised me too. i knew igor wouldn't sound like he was fresh out of prison

Now that I think about it did they ever explain what the fuck teddie was?

I'd say he let himself be captured for the sake of the game bet.

A shadow.

As someone who doesn't like to spoil games for themselves and didn't even follow the official pre-release news that closely, I had no idea he'd be the traitor until he joined the team, because I didn't even know he was going to join the team, although I suspected it.

A shadow.

They literally fill him in with the roles and explained how they did shit before they went in to the palace with him. Then in the dungeon he sees her literally hacking shit and the only one to do so.