How much money can you make on Twitch?

How much money can you make on Twitch?

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the gold rush is over and there is nothing sadder than a streamer with a full setup and 3 viewers sitting there in silence.

You have to pay to stream so good luck if you are not a woman

>the gold rush is over and there is nothing sadder than a streamer with a full setup and 0 viewers sitting there talking to himself

Fix'd

From -∞ up to ∞

My sister has a workout channel and also plays some vidya. She brings in about $8k a month and she isn't even that big of a star

As long as she realizes she is a prostitute.

Link dude. What the fuck are you doing without a link?

Nice meme.

What meme?
She is getting money with her body, didnt say it was bad but dont think she is anything but a whore.

>be built fitbro
>get hired to be a mover because you're big and strong
>dude you're a whore

Fuck off

Alot. Hell I've given over a thousand dollars this year alone haha.

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two maybe three

> inb4 clara babylegs

CAN you make? easily ten thousand a day.
how much WILL you make? none.

I've been watching this one guy stream every day, 8 hours a day, consistent hours, always relatively high energy and not overbearing, but he still can't get above 5 viewers, and 4 of them are bots, the other being me.

Meanwhile, my channel that has nothing but a few scrolling text banners gets 30 viewers whenever I feel like streaming. There's no real logic or reason behind it. The only guaranteed way to get more viewers is giveaways (which you need to keep up to sustain that viewerbase), and botting views to snowball, because twitch supports massive snowballing just like youtube. The big get bigger and the small stay small.

>this delusion

well whatever keeps you happy bud

Lmfao

>when your dick is so sensitive at it's your first time

How does it feel to live with a whore ?
Maybe when she gets into college she will start charging for sucking cocks

...

Women main draw is sexuality, if you cant see this you are in denial, she wouldnt be earning shit if she was a dude

This rips the hymen, right?

This. I've had people come in my stream and ask how many average viewers I get and immediately leave when I say 5.

Twitch isn't about video games if you're looking to make any money. It's about being "entertaining" i.e. A sperglord, and fostering a "community" i.e. A bunch of sperglords chatting on your channel.

If you can get a sizable daily fanbase of around 20k/30k viewers with plenty of donations and concurrent subscribers while also running lots of ads, you can make a lot of money.

A streamer called Imaqtpie was able to buy two houses off the money he made from streaming and now sits on about 2 million.

wasn't he also a lol pro player?

He was for years. He streamed then too.
His fortune is basically the combined cash flow of years and years of streaming.
He's also a autistic shut in so he doesn't give a shit. If he can play LoL, he doesn't give a toss about anything else.

>sizable
20k/30k is gargantuan for online streaming, especially because they run ~10-15 minutes of ads per day if not significantly more. People like imaqtpie that play games like league literally built for streamers, run 90-270 seconds of ads EVERY HOUR. Add on to that donations, subscriptions, and now the new bit system and that's how he accrues his money.

Sizable is someone like jackfrags, 2000-3000 viewers daily, he still has nearly 200 subs (almost 500 dollars monthly from that alone), plus donations, bits, and sponsorships.

Hell, I have a youtube channel of around 60,000 subs, and I got an offered a free $600 prebuilt PC from a manufacturer (ironside before someone asks). Sponsorships are pretty big especially as you grow a userbase on twitch, because those viewers are significantly more vehement and zealous than people who watch things on youtube or TV, they're (at least trying to) interacting with the streamer, and someone with active eyes on their screen will always be someone that can get big bucks from sponsors.

>How much money can you make on Twitch?
me? $0

For someone new, it's basically impossible to become a streamer that earns enough cash for it to be a full time "job."
Imaqtpie is king of LoL streaming while people like Lirik are the kings of variety streaming. You just can't compete.

I used to stream back before even Justin tv existed. I miss those kind of streaming communities. now it's all about the money.

my gf just started streaming lol and it really makes me want to stream again, I'm hopping I can piggyback off her and share the channel, but she is scared she will lose her current viewerbase if they find out she has a boyfriend. she has only streamed a couple weeks already broke a 1000 views and has like 56 followers and people have bought her cheap shut like skins.

She just started streaming and you're already cucked lol

For sure never appear. For girl streamers like that it's all about basically being a fake e-girl for lonely teens. And there's always the final frontire for girl streamers when some guy suddenly gives her 2,000 dollars or something. On five big LoL channels, a guy gave all of them a 2,000 dollar donation.

He was, but he made fuck all off of that. He said he made around 30k a year playing pro, even at the level team dig was at being one of the top NA teams.

But yeah, he makes a retarded amount off of donations and subscribers and due to that barely runs ads, not to mention the paid promotions.

Pretty good considering he was one of us before the /vg/ split, thats how he met his current YT editor and another Team Dig member cant remember.

You need connections now if you're an average joe, by that I mean streamers with an established base who invite you to play with them.

Sad thing is if you're just starting out you either have to know people who can send viewers your way or bot views to make yourself visible. No one is going to browse the bottom of the list and no one will stick around without active chat. The game doesn't even matter much at this point.

I'm not saying you should, just saying that 20k/30k being "sizable" is ludicrously incorrect. He frequently has more viewers than the bottom 90% of games on twitch combined. And yes, someone new will almost never break into the scene unless they latch on to a massively popular game and succeed at doing so. And the game needs to hold it's ground for a while, too. People jumped on shit like paragon which is dead, and pu:BG which will be as dead as h1z1 in a few weeks when updates slow down.

Or viewbot. There are pretty cheap, packs for $300 offer a month of slowly increasing viewerbase complete with REAL looking names (not the qqweibo AAAJSIAJZIJXMKZZCQCB029301 username shits.) that randomly chat shit like "LOL" "dude woah" etc etc.

Don't show up, don't try to piggyback, you will kill her viewerbase, and if not, you'll kill people donating to her calling her hot and shit.

>western woman
>having hymen

>Person paying you to move their stuff is sexually aroused by watching men move stuff
yup, he's a whore

Wasn't his current girlfriend also from the Sup Forums LoL General days?

Abandon all hope those who go into streaming with the intention of having a full time career from the get go. It won't happen. Those days have gone. Even somebody like Lirik had to rely on being a moderator for a bigger channel in the beginning to have a solid foundation for his own career.

Start it off as a hobby. If fortune strikes you and you end up rising to the top of the other tens of thousands of streamers with the same idea, maybe then think about trying to expand. On top of donations you're probably looking at around 200 subscribers as a goal if you want to make something of a career out of it.

Twitch is just a meme thing.

It is dying out faster every day and begging for money will never go well for a long time.

EVERY bigger stream is a begging shit fest.
PLEASE DONATE
PLEASE SUB
HAVE YOU HEARD OF AMAZON PRIME?????

And the biggest problem is that only like the top ten streamer can play the games they want with a lot of viewers. Every smaller streamer has to play the same game to get viewers.

For example all of the big Overwatch streamer are stuck with Overwatch to have viewers. The biggest problem with Overwatch is that the game is just garbage. You see that every match as a PUG is pretty much decided before the game even begins and with so less content even the biggest Blizzdrone gets bored after playing Hanamura for the ten thousands time. And every time the competitive mode is unavailable your stream is pretty much dead.

The same thing with Overwatch is with every game. You are stuck with the game, but every game gets boring after a while and you will lose your viewers either because they are bored or you switched the game.

For example the biggest Hearthstone streamer only plays Herthstone because with other games he doesn't even come close to this game. But you see that he is so fucking bored to play this game and is pissed every time he loses because "Bad luck and the opponent would have lost anyway if he hadn't so much luck".


And there is one more thing and that are kids and children. I don't thing that it is legally right to beg kids and children for their money and only because some streams have a "are you 18+ click ok" thing is enough as a protection. Most "donations" and "subs" are just children who steal money from their parents because they can easily be manipulated by the nice streamer who is always so fun^^.

If Amazon had a little bit of honor they would prohibit any form of money begging (including sub and donation shout outs). But a stream should never ever be allowed to manipulate children.

You like Sup Forums?
None cause we're mostly uncharismatic losers

Think so, Shiphtur and Misha were also here

This. Starting out solo will be impossible, riding on the coattail of a bigger streamer is your only chance

Games don't matter but the initial popularity surge of a game can seriously help jump start a streamer. There was one guy on YT who was only getting a ~2000 views per video at best but then H1Z1 came out and he was one of the first to make a video about it. I think it had a bit of controversy as well which also helped. From that he gained a lot of subscribers/followers and started averaging 100K views per video, just for survival game garbage. It's died of a bit now but still getting 20K-50K views per video.

Imaqtpie has played League constantly since the Beta/Season 1 days and isn't bored yet. Helps that he's autistic I guess.

I like Shiphtur. He's a fun guy to watch.

>that dopey bozo walking buy thinking he wont be jacking off tonight
>even for a second

every single time

I cant agree with that, do you have stats? My favorite streamers are all always growing, until they get to that point where they have 2-3k and then they become unbearable or run into problems with real life.

If I remember correctly Lirik was averaging somewhere between 2k-3k viewers during his peak Arma II mod streams. As soon as DayZ standalone was released his viewers spiked to over 10k and it's not dipped ever since.

how am I cucked. she gets free shit so it's less shit I have to pay toward her and all she does is say their name. we live together so I know she ain't doing more on top of having access to every account she has of anything.

I saw once he had like 47k viewers. He's very much made it.

this is why whenever i stream casually for fun i never use a mic unless i have 5 people or more, or i have someone right beside me to talk to

I still don't get streaming. I've looked into the most popular streamers and they just aren't entertaining. they play a game, give a shoutout to subs and shit, but other than the occasional neutral comment toward the game they aren't entertaining.

how do people watch this everyday and not get bored. I can understand if the game is fun or if the guy is standout good.

Yeah I couldn't imagine attempting a professional stream without a viewer base. Occasionally I'll just turn on the stream when me and a friend are playing together on voip or something, but I'd never actually pay attention to the streaming aspect. People who leave their jobs to become streamers before they get an audience are just pathetic.

It's all title and personality. Most of those people have a super articulate title describing exactly what they're doing and spend most of the time silent or talking about pointless shit.

I stream once in a blue moon when a cool game comes out that I want to broadcast, and I usually sit at at least 20-30 viewers. Which isn't a high amount no, but it's enough to get a chat going and have a good time. I do this because I put effort into what I say and how I say it while on stream and make an interesting title.

>snowballing
This happened with my channel

>Make a little webseries
>Nobody cares
>Make a podcast with people from Sup Forums
>The thread on /vg/ (/rpgmg/) watches it
>Youtube notices I've had 6 billion% more minutes watched than I've ever had
>NINETY VIEWS IN ONE DAY
>YT has decided I am worth 90 views per video
>Stuck there for the past year, despite quality and retention going way up over time

I feel like I blew my chance to go viral. It's a little annoying

He's been peaking out at around 65k at once as recently as 2 days ago.

I'm sitting here watching him now, he's been doing gtav RP and it's entertaining as fuck.

Some people just like watching certain personalities playing certain games.
Just because you don't think they're entertaining doesn't mean thousands of other people think they're not entertaining either.

I mean I understand all types of humor, I even perform shit like amateur stand up and am a practicing street magician so i know about how to be entertaining. i don't see the popular streamers doing anything that deserves all the viewers they get. not saying they didn't deserve them in the first place, I'm sure they worked hard to be entertaining but got popular enough to just coast. but why do people just stick around in that large a number, that I don't get.

Streamers are the trash TV for Generation Z. They're no longer watching cable TV but instead binge watching some streamer for 8 hours a say. I also find the content extremely boring but I guess as a pre-pubescent teenager it's fun and entertaining. There's also the virtual friend aspect where many have the delusion that the streamer is a friend and come for that sole reason.

Keep in mind the main twitch audience are children and teenagers.

It's a combination of luck, investment, and personality.

Witwix started out with barely a 100 viewers when he was playing Boshy. It took him like 5 years of streaming every fucking day, doing stream give-aways, sometimes buying into new game hype (ie. SMM), and shilling his channel in groups and social media to get to where he is today.

Familiarity. To some viewers, monthly resubbing to their favorite streamers is normal for them. I've seen some people that have been subbed to popular streamers for almost 4 years.

It took witwix getting raided by more popular streamers, joining a clique and getting preferential treatment to attain partnership faster than other speedrunners because he knew romscout (at the time the speedrun partnership coordinator for twitch).

There was no investment nor luck, he got advertised by GDQ, he got a primetime slot run that several hundred thousand people watched.

>twitch creative streams of people doing art/coding/animation
>if its got 20 views its doing amazing
>teen #9234427452384 playing league of lols
>429384823 watchers

every time

It really helps when you're friends or an acquaintance of a more famous streamer and they host you and give you their thousands of viewers.

Twitch partnership isn't really how a channel explodes. It's usually the reverse actually where a channel growing big gets a partnership.

But yeah, if you get hosted by a big channel chances are you're going to get big as long as you're entertaining... not a guarantee though. I remember Kripp hosting some random 50 viewer Shadowverse streams and weebs going crazy over it claiming it'll kill HS on Twitch... but they never made it big.

really? first time hear this

you theoretically can make dozens or hunders of dollars per day

Right now - probably 0$.

Streamers don't like to admit it but "making it" is (was) almost entirely based on being at the right place at the right time.

Really?

There's is always that retard with money who is always donating $50 or who gives 10000 cheers everytime his favourite streamer is on.

To give an example, there's a guy in Lirik channel who don't this every single time Topramens or something is his name I guess.

>a website for streaming video games has a lot of people watching people play games

Really makes you think.

It's like having a popular Youtube channel.
Though making money on Youtube is super hard now thanks to that shit the Wall Street Journal did to advertisers.

I feel like people who want to get into streaming should start on Youtube and gain a big following then stream when majority know who you are
especially cause Youtube is more popular than twitch

There's always that one guy who's always in every stream and seems autistic as fuck or like he wants to make himself "known" as a personality in the chat.

it's the total opposite, you will literally never be seen on youtube in any circumstance unless you advertise your shit. If you hop on a new game on twitch, people will watch simply because it's a new game. I mean, bethesda gave out copies of fallout 4 a week early to random people on twitch.

>Sup Forums late to the party
>thinks they can cash in on it
You're not going to make a living on twitch if that's what you're asking.

>tfw had a youtube channel in 2007 averaging a couple thousand views per video
>tfw dropped it after 2 years

Who else /missed opportunities/ here?

What made you stop? I know plenty of small LPers with those kinds of viewer numbers that do it for the fun of the hobby. Mainly because they actually have jobs so LPing is legit actually a hobby for them.

I had one video up on my channel on youtube back in the day, it was right when DBZ burst limit came out, it was showing off the broken moveset for form 3 frieza with the xenomorph face. You could nigh-infinite with it's bullets, and it would do like 25% health each time because it broke combo technically. Insane shit. Stronger than any other char by far. I got like 80,000 views on that video, but I was 15 when it came out and didn't understand anything about youtube at the time so I just let the opportunity pass by.

>Have 1 video having 300k views at one point (sure it was just a cutscene of a game but whatever).
>Still can barely get 4-5 views a day nowadays.

Yeah, shit sucks we know.

So was Pewdiepie really posting his shit here back in the day before he blew up?

To be fair to you, youtube's algorithm is complete bullocks. I understand why they do it, but it's still bullshit.

Missed youtube oppertunities? half a million views on a video from The Burning crusade, my account was later banned after a legal dispute with rockstar, before any real copyright framework could be applied to youtube.
now my new account is on around 100k views total and im trying to come up with a non vidya idea just to enjoy making videos and potentially earn a little on the side.

I thought more people would go to Youtube for new games instead of Twitch, I know most game companies gift both Twitch/Youtube users games earlier then the release of it but to me it seems harder on Twitch cause some already big streamer with more views could play a new game and everyone just goes to them where as on Youtube you have multiple people getting 1,000 something views at the same time

Wouldn't put it past him. He's probably the one that made the 'pewdiepie is /ourguy/' posts after the fiverr debacle

Every big video game youtuber/streamer post their shit on Sup Forums

Nah people usually go to lower viewercount streams on new games because it' the game and not some sort of community shit. You wouldn't believe how many viewers I got playing the french leak of FC3 blood dragon. Several hundred, cause the only other guy was some super popular streamer in france apparently, but I didn't commentate at all, just had the game up in a window.

Till twitch banned me cause I was playing a leak, anyway. He got off scott free though and has like 800 viewers concurrent most days.

Was it because he was sponsored to play that or some shit? It's the only reason I could think of why he'd be able to get away with it.

The videos where literally just gameplay footage of different games I could run AND record on my toaster - Medal of Honor Allied Assault, Need For Speed Underground 2, Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

I was 13 years old so I didn't want to do any voiceovers, new games kept coming out that I couldn't run and record and I wasn't particularly creative so the best variation from the regular content was montages overlayed with music (which, looking back, are surprisingly not cringey).

Basically - stagnation.

I guess you could also try click baiting like this guy.
youtube.com/user/LostPause

No, he was playing the leak same as me, he was a twtich partner, that's the only reason why.

They get a free pass to do the most foul and blatantly rule breaking shit. Female streamers still wear crop tops and show off cleavage even though it's explicitly stated to be against the rules, male streamers can't even wear a tanktop anymore because it's "too sexual". Partners can play games before release, or games not allowed under twitch's EULA, and get a slap on the wrist, anyone else gets instabanned. It's just how it is though.

Its okay, we understand you donate money to girls expecting something in return, but its just a thank you.

I mean, it doesn't get sadder than this.

The only section where you can still make it is probably IRL.

But only if you have unique stuff to show. It's the only section where doing something original will get you more views - there's some rich arab dude driving cars, Ice Poseidon is autistic (although he had a fanbase beforehand), then there's another mentally deranged guy and a bounty hunter started streaming as well. If you have something people might want to see, it might be worth a try.

>Hell, I have a youtube channel of around 60,000 subs, and I got an offered a free $600 prebuilt PC from a manufacturer

I hope you didn't sell yourself so cheap user.

You also have people like Forsen that have in-built autistic chat spamming viewerships that watch him do literally fucking anything at this point, though at first he was a LoL streamer years ago.

I did. They asked me to put a 3 second clip with their logo and website in it at the beginning or ends of my videos.

I was playing on a dumpster dived laptop before that, rendering on it too. I've got no shame, i'll whore myself out for a new PC any day. It's not that bad either, it's separate components and shit just got their branding all over it. Viewerbase doesn't like it, but despite the dislikes, my viewcount is pretty stable. In fact, it went up since I can now put out more than one video a week.

Good thinking lad, don't let proud-fags stop your monetary gains.

The greater portion of his fame is from his AGDQ run of boshy actually. He got the spotlight and absolutely killed it up there

>turning down free shit

Considering you'd have to literally whore yourself out just to get somebody notice you on youtube nowadays, selling oneself is probably already the norm by now.