XIV/Stormblood

Many tanks are pissed. Many DRKs are outright switching to dps classes. WARs seem to be reluctantly accepting the shit they got, but they're flaking nevertheless. Enjoy the queues, lads.

Tanks complaining are fucking babies, look at what they did to SCH

>MSQ done
>SAM class quests done
shit, what to do

PLDS are fucking ecstatic, we can be a tank, healer OR dps, thanks divine magic mastery

now you get a life

why the fuck are tanks complaining

PLD is where it should have been 2 years ago, warriors are actually balanced now and DRK's can dps easier now

what's the god damn issue

also, no more 90k's/etc

why we mad?

> tanks complaining
Haven't seen any
> meanwhile all these PLD bandwagoners
Fuck off guys, it's my class

I play DRK and it's still """""""good""""""" at tanking. Had to clutch tank the second primal last night (in other words, do my job as OT), and I feel very squishy in dungeons when doing big dick pulls, but I still think it's good. Honestly
it's simply boring. Maybe that's because I played DPS until this xpac but it's so mind numbing. No idea how the other tanks play.

Are EX primals unlockable yet?

>No ascians
Wow, I'm impressed they managed to write a story without them
>Suddenly ascians
nevermind

I'm tanking but it's been so boring and clunky that I'm off the boat as soon as I've completed the MSQ.
Gonna be switching to SAM and RDM.

I know Xeno doesn't like WAR changes, other people are grumbling too but not nearly as much as DRKs. DRKs are just unhappy in general, they complain about enmity generation, blood price being shit,, etc. And in general, it seems to be boring. Like, if you ask people for opinions, a significant majority will tell you they're unhappy with how it plays. Emphasis on ''plays''.

Also,

> slowly progress trough MSQ
> reach new dungeons
> filled with SAM and RDM cucks offering 100k for a tank to queue with them

Enjoy your queue

The only valid complaint for tanks is the nerf to blood price giving drks a much harder time in aoe pulls where DA AD spam would carry even bad healers.

War losing bloodbath I imagine is in the same situation.

Overall, all tank perform the same pretty much now.

Haven't played in a while, used to main SCH. What did they do?

I WANT TO MARRY HYDAELYN

> filled with SAM and RDM cucks offering 100k for a tank to queue with them

>Be RDM
>Have a few friends that enjoy being tank
>They always ask me to tag along if they do stuff

>Sup Forums shitposts about how MCH is "ruined" and "shit" like crazy for weeks
>stormblood launches
>MCH shitposting goes into overdrive
>turns out MCH is actually the top DPS still, but now by a wider margin
Are you fuckheads ever right about anything?

>Tanks complaining

I play DRK and its shit more enjoyable to be in tanking stance now due to how piss easy it is to get MP. All you have to do is establish aggro and just shit out DPS with Dark Arts and use Delirium to keep shitting it out. Plus with the change to grits damage reduc you dont suffer any damage loss when you have it up with darkside.

Isn't ex susano available already

And on this episode of "how the fuck do I get up there?"

I'm a salty DRK and I've been leveling MCH for shits and giggles for the past 2 days and fuck me, I feel the urge to drop tanking.

Yeah, there was this ad break telling you to call 555-GIT-GUD

>mr autism one shotted it
wtf unsubbed

>yfw the WoL will eventually meet the actual Primals and act as their messenger to stop the beast tribes from summoning Primals and rallying with all of Eorzea to stop the Empire

Holy shit ... I'm only 66 and already hitting stuff for 20k.
This jjob is insane. Wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed that shit soon.

Casting adloq 8 times will make you get to 0 mana. Aetherflow restores 10% mana, Bane may as well have been removed, physick costs more and heals less than cure I, white mages can fucking dps better than us now, astrologians have better shields than us now.

And they nerfed the fairies.

What did you expect. He already had priority queue times and loading into instances.

I don't exactly mind leveling my SAM through PVP, but it's just weird how I'll end up spending way more time with the PVP skills than the PVE skills.

They'll sooner do an expansion where the WoL dies and then has adventures in the lifestream.

Sounds like you enjoy technical classes. DRK got less technical. MCH actually got MORE technical with the heat system.

I played both in HW. I'm debating on completely dropping DRK and just going 100% MCH since they'll be in demand.

Doing the Dragoon story got me wondering.
OK so the woman dragoon decides she can't go back home until getting rid of the taint of dragon blood that's been forced on her.
But come the end of the Dragonsong war where Ishgard and dragons are beginning to coexist again shouldn't that be a moot point?

DRGs elves are racist fucks.

Do you think we'll eventually get to run around Garlemald and interact with Garlean civilians and possibly grey up the whole Garlean v Eorzean conflict by seeing life on the other side?

Nah I'm kinda expecting it to kick people's shit in

No, they don't like the players liking the villains more than your fuckbuddies

I want to join the empire!

You know what the thing is? I saw many people here writing elaborate posts on how DRK is now better and more ''dynamic'' than before. MCH is really fun, I love ripping aggro in potd lol. It's just fucking hard to justify staying a tank at this point. And speaking of demand, I personally do not see many MCHs running around and have not been seeing them in savage raids over the past several months. I remember there was only one and he was semi drunk and he sexually harassed me because I'm a Roe.

I'd like to see the expansion involve the WoL kidnapped and brainwashed into being an imperial soldier. Do quests with a new party while the scions come up with a plan to sneak deep into the Garlean empire and get you back.

DRK pretty much has two problems right now; one of them is serious and the other one isn't.

The not-so-serious one is that they really obviously designed DRK to be a level 70 class, and seemingly didn't give a fuck about how the class plays while you get there. It's a complete disaster in any dungeon below level 56, and when you start up the game and start playing at level 60, it feels like all your abilities are gone and you've got nothing to do.

By the time you actually get to 70, though, it's really fun to actually tank with, and feels as good as it ever did.


The more serious problem with it is that they obviously designed/retooled all of DRK's AoE abilities around the idea of Blood Price being unchanged from Heavensward, and then at the very last second, decided to nerf Blood Price into the ground, HARD.

At this point, DRK has two AoE abilities that work the way they're supposed to: Salted Earth, and non-DA Abyssal Drain.

Unleash is too weak and costs too much MP.
Dark Passenger is garbage because you never have enough MP for it to be worthwhile versus getting another GCD or two of Abyssal Drain.
Dark Arts isn't worth it on Abyssal Drain because you're not going to get enough MP back to use it without sacrificing some ADs.

Quietus was designed so that you would be able to DA basically every single one you use, which is why you only get 50 potency out of a DA and why the base potency is only 160. But your MP generation is so nerfed that it NEVER makes sense to DA it, and so it's really nothing but a slightly-buffed AD-level attack instead of a powerful skill - and the blood generation on BP is just as bad, so you can't even spam it, which it was also designed to do.

only boots left now

She could change into one of those mindless half dragon monsters at any time. The little dragon was helping her learn to control it like we do when we use BoTD.

Well: it's an extremely technical class that just got MORE technical, so you won't see many.

That said: it had and still has the highest potential DPS if any class so good ones were and will be in demand.

>tfw you swapped from roe to generic lizardgirl for that very reason

For Primals like Ifrit, Titan, Ravana etc there's no actual primal. Those are the real deals summoned by the beast tribes worship of them. They believe so they exist.
Shiva, Bahamut, Garuda, Thordan, Moggie Mog on the other hand were based on actual entities that the worshippers summoned forth based on their interpretations of them.
The moogles view king Moggle Mog as pretty much how he really was so his summoned form was pretty accurate.

Garuda however was an Allagan but the Ixali who worshipped her viewed her more as one of them, giving the crazy bird woman you see.

Bahamut was summoned by the Ascians based on Tiamat's memory of him, then they twisted it and made him into a rage consumed destroyer......because they're dicks.

im playing DRK right now and it feels real fucking boring
tempted to just swap to PLD if it is more fun

What should my rotation be for RDM? I think i understand most of the basics but i want to be sure i'm not doing anything wrong.

use the skills that build meter
spend your meter
roll your face on your ogcds
try to get things to line up with embolden and manafication if possible

if you're at 1 or 2 on the enmity list you're doing it correctly

alternate black and white till both above 80 with one higher, melee combo, finish with whichever spell has the lower amount i.e lower white magic, finish with verholy

It's less of a rotation and more of an if->then statements

Jolt-double cast into thunder or aero (depending on Mana), proc fire or stone, repeat till full, Melee combo, then finisher

>tfw only level 65
>Just got to the part where Yugari wants to assassinate the Emperor's kid

Boy I know this will go well

WHM feels pretty strong, great DPS and mana isn't an issue. Lilies are kinda eh but you can pretty easily do a Cure II into Divine Benis for tankbusters when you need to.

Plenary Indulgence is like total shit, though. The Confession mechanic is the most hamhanded thing and doesn't feel rewarding.

AST feels harder to keep up with MP and the gauge is kind of annoying (and kind of a nerf since you can't click off card buffs anymore), but their new stuff feels fun to use.

SCH feels bad, they should probably prioritize it on their patches.

I'm guessing come 5.0 when we get to Garlemaid there will be a rebel Farlam group who either opposes the Emperor wasting resources for war in Eorzea when there is still much of Garlemaid that needs financial aid.
Or just opposes Varis's ascension and the main rebel city will be the adventurer 's new hub.

>Finally got MSQ working
>Finally got RDM questline working
>Not getting 9002 or 9006 errors every 5 seconds
>Time to go to work

>Queue up for Revel
>Jump potion Tank who's never seen a Primal before
>The saltiest healers ever that go full passive aggressive
>BLM that refuse to stack because muh Enochain even if the stack is on them

Good fight though

AST has a skill to discard a card

Arond 65 I still haven't noticed a significant change on how I play WAR.
Do one combo over and over again, hit Fell Cleave(s), repeat. Keep up damage buff.
It's not particularly demanding, but it has never been.

You can't cancel a Royal Road buff anymore, though; your only options are to play it or overwrite it.

Right, but not Royal Road and (most importantly) Spread, so don't Spread the wrong thing lads

I feel it lost its uniqueness. It used to be about resource management no other tank had and it was fun to play. It seems like these changes were designed by some drunk guy. I really hope that most DRKs will switch to other tanks instead of dropping tanking, but I'm probably going dps, I don't want to play a PLD, I played a DRK for a reason.

I like it because it's very active, you always have something to press and look out for.

Ah, I see. Never touched AST before, but i'm enjoying it so far.

DRK is better now that you dont have to constantly sit at 100 mp if you're DPS'ing correctly

PLD is pretty much all about dumping either your heals or holy spirit bombs, then comboing/sheltron'ing to regain mana to do them again.

Lots of situational stuff as well if people need 60% damage reduction for 6s on range, cover that redirects ALL damage with a 20% reduction on transfer or just clemency off-heals.

I enjoy it, its exactly how I wanna play PLD.
Can't wait for lvl 70 when I get passage of arms.

I really feel sorry for WAR and DRK players

The WoL in SB has finished their evolution into a retard strong fightaholic.

im probably going back to dps eventually since RDM is pretty fun and SAM looks neat, i was just gonna tank during the initial rush because 1 hour queues and shit

>That fucking "RULES OF NATURE" moment in Susano.

I hope the QTE is much harder in extreme mode.

But the theme of Stormblood, Revolutions, has a lot of lyrics based around the theme of war not being very black and white, and not to get so caught up in your own goals of justice that it blinds you. I hadn't played Stormblood yet, but I feel like that could be foreshadowing to the eventual conflict with Garlemald

If you're not feeling DRK, then don't force yourself to play it this early in the expansion, but I really do suggest going back to try it again once you can level easily with your Armory Bonus and stuff.

It definitely feels weird to play after using it in Heavensward, and you pretty much have to get all the way to 70 before it really comes together, but most people I've talked to hated it when they started SB, and liked it equally or better to HW once they got to 70.

I want my fucking Garlemand GC and magitek knight job reeeeeee

>that one person who has to idle with a new mount in Idylshire of all places
Totally not attentionwhoring you guys!

Hope so, but Zenos is just straight up a dick. Which is weird since the Emperor seemed to be an alright guy despite looking like a jackass.

>Being mad about it like a little bitch instead of ignoring it

Yoshi already said that's the point of SAM, fuckhuge DPS, 0 utility

he also said to get big dick DPS you need to learn very hard, so no, don't expect a nerf anytime soon

I've seen some of the forum posts and they basically mirror what I think on the class right now. the only thing that DRK feels got buffed is their single target DPS, and that's basically brain-dead DA spam now.

BPrice is goofed and by relation so is their aoe damage/enmity generation. Stance dancing is basically impossible now since you have next to no mitigation for pulls so you have to save defensives for it, not to mention dark dance is gone and replaced with some shitty cross class skill.

no wonder why DPS queues are fucking ridiculous, I'd switch to a SAM too if i wasn't halfway to 70 already.

I just want to run quests for normal Garlean citizens who think the Empire is fucking great and life is wonderful and wonder why the Eorzeans don't want to be part of it and get all this cool magitek shit

Honestly, 1 hour is not that bad, I'd much rather spend that hour shitposting here and doing other shit if it means I'll actually have fun in a dungeon. Instant pops as tank are not enough to keep me tanking.

Here's what people have been saying;
>Our enmity generation is pretty garbage, it's to the point where if you use more than 1 dps combo you will prob lose aggro. The class feels sluggish and just bleh.

>It is all Soul Eater spam all the time for single target with the odd Bloodspiller and C&S thrown in. For AoE it's just AB spam. A DA Dark Passager is half your MP gone and with Blood Price nerfed it is just not worth it. And Quietus hits like a wet paper bag. What's the point of building up to a 160 pot move with a horrible DA bonus? I can DA a quietus for 210 or just fire off 2 AD for 240.

Etc., etc.

spoiled brat with the whole "daddy gets me everything I want" schtic, but said spoiled brat is fucking stronk as hell.

I enjoyed the sobering "event" you have early on just to show how powerless you are at that point.

>enabling attentionwhores
Fuck off, /xivg/.

While you were ERPing with catgirls in Idylshire, I studied the BLADE

When are we getting our pre-order bonuses

Or did I just not get mine

I'm not even at level 60 yet but i'm afriad to look at the market place for lvl60 RDM gear, i only have 400k and i don't want to bankrupt myself. How do i gear up for SB content without grinding for outdated tomes?

Why?
WARs cant' solo every dungeon in the game anymore, oh no, job fucking ruined.

tomorrow when the game officially launches.

Just picked up the game since everyone on Sup Forums has been hyping it up.

Seems like a generic themepark MMO so far. Does it do anything special?

Yeah this, how do i download my preorder shit on PSN, it gave me an option when i bought it but didn't let me download it now i can't get to that page again.

you can buy ilvl 255 gear in ishgard/Stormblood areas and the MSQ hands you HQ 255+ gear all the way to level cap so at least one class is always fully loaded

quests give HQ gear

Tomorrow

supreme quality soundtrack and a fairly interesting story.

Well Gaius proved that even Garlean commanders aren't complete monsters, they are just loyal to their cause and want to defeat Eorzea

Better characters bite the dust while the Scions still live Come on... Godspeed you big burly Katana Man

It has QTEs

Im finna unleash my.... NUT OF THE DRAGON

>ast refuses to dps or even use cards because his only job is to heal and cards force him to pay less attention to health bars

What a fucking awful job questline.

I miss him to. Maybe he will be back one day

How can you see threads about a thing, read enough to decide that you want to try it, and still not read enough to know that the game is themepark mmo.

Grind Palace of the dead it's lots of fun :^)

What set is this lad

The outdated tomes when traded in the goblin city can get you a full 265 set. More than enough to start SB.

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