Does Japan know anything about good and proper character design? Jesus...

Does Japan know anything about good and proper character design? Jesus. You can't even tell the guy on the bottom is a damn pirate from looking at him.

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What exactly denotes the guy on top as a pirate?

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And yet he his, it's amazing how people can give such personalities by actions and good writing instead of just giving him stereotypical clothing

The pirate hat, the pirate ship he's on, the sea in the background churning, the old style pistol, him crushing an orange in his hand that he lost in a war, and the general dark and gritty look he has that screams 'I'm a criminal wanted on the seven seas"?

Look at something other than his fucking fist maybe?

>fat
>beard
>boat
>powder kegs
>manly af

I wouldn't care about One Piece if the characters looked like stereotypical pirates.
Originality is dying. Embrace what remains of it.

I didn't realize making a design that actually represents what the thing is is stereotypical now.

small time

lmao

Take a look, female pirate designed by the west

He's a different kind of Pirate

I'd let her shiver me timber. If you know what I mean.

female pirate designed by the Japanese

Note the difference.

get on my level faggots

Technically the bottom guy isn't a pirate but engaged in pirating activities as one more of many profittable endeavors. I assume top guy was born in the sea or whatever.

So what des he do, run a hotel on the beach and serve drinks at parties on spring break? Cuz he don't look like no damn pirate.

Not a pirate, a bounty hunter.
Sounds worse thinking into it..

According to that, a dwarf in a lake is a pirate.

That would be a fair argument, but none of the other one piece characters who are actually self proclaimed pirates look like pirates either.

Your idea of pirate is what the random mooks he uses as cannon bait look like.

The only people in One Piece that look like pirates are the extras with no lines other than "yeah!".

One Piece's final villain is Blackbeard and is as stereotypical as a pirate can get.

When a series has literally thousands of characters not all of them are going to follow the same classical pirate motifs, especially in a world as wacky as the world One Piece is set in. Some islands feel like they're right out of a classic pirate narrative but others are inspired by feudal Japan, Jurassic Park or Alice in Wonderland. The manga thrives on its diverse settings and stories that each new island provides, so the enemy crews the protagonists face tend to be built around their arc rather than history.

But this is a bait thread anyway since you specifically chose the villain who's actually a corrupt monarch and underground broker.

A pirate ship and the sea aren't part of character design you fucking tard.

Flintlock pistols were used by pretty much everyone so I don't think that would denote him as a pirate. The hat just looks dumb, it doesn't look anything like a pirate hat.

Who are they? At the very least we have
>Luffy: idiot fucking kid who has no idea what pirating is
>Shanks: Fairly piratey
>Blackbeard: Full piratey
>Whitebeard: Sailor
>Bege: mafiafag in the sea, fuck looking like a mook

lol using any MOBA art as an example of "western" design when it's all influenced by korean concept art.

Do you think every ninja should look like this OP? Fucks sake man not every character has to have a standard dress code. Shit's boring. If it's a historical game that's one thing but having different character designs is good. It keeps things from looking samey.

Flintlock pistols are a pirate thing, also you forgot the orange, pirates ate citrus to prevent scurvy.

So if your pirate takes off his hat, stands in a "non-piratey" scenario such as a city in the middle of the day, has both hands (orangeless) and leaves his pistol in the ship he isn't a pirate anymore.

That's no ninja. That's a karate master with a sword.

Except LoL characters are created by westerners with a western aesthetic.

I'm aware of that but this thread is the first time I see citric fruit as a symbol of pirates

>pirate hat
Looks more like a typical dwarf helm.
>pirate ship he's on
Literally can't tell shit other than it looks like the deck of a wreck.
>sea in background churning
Literally not visible. You can see a rainstorm, but otherwise it's a blurry mess.
>crushing an orange
The fuck does that have to do with pirates? If he was a real pirate, he'd be eating the fucking thing to ward off his scurvy.
>screams blahblah
It screams "I'm yet another generic dwarf shitter in a background staight from a hidden object game."

Dog piss doesn't look shit like pirates either, but at least it's not supposed to and failed.

guy on the top looks like some golem shit
guy on the bottom is pic related

Yeah sure, that's why it's the same copy and paste stuff you see in all Korean MMO concept art. Nothing about LoL concept art is unique or even close to being "western"

That's ridiculous logic. Also how would you explain how he talks, and what he says? he's a pirate through and through, listen:

youtube.com/watch?v=E-SNQo9STps

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He mentions sailing a lot and pirate terms.

A real life pirate is more likely to resemble the bottom picture.

Pic related: actual Somali pirates. They don't have pirate clothing, and they don't crush oranges with their hands.

Top is a classic pirate, a grizzled salty sea dog with a flintlock and tricorn hat.
Bottom is a Super powered anime Villain who happens to commit crimes on the open sea.

Do you expect a bank robber to be a dude in a striped shirt and a mask or Fucking Doctor Octopus?

>The fuck does that have to do with pirates? If he was a real pirate, he'd be eating the fucking thing to ward off his scurvy.


He crushes the oranges then squeezes the juice into his mouth. Cuz he's manly as hell like that.

Do pirates absorb vitamin C through their robot fists?

>That's ridiculous logic
Congratulations, you figured out my ruse!
>how he talks
You didn't mention that in the OP but that's what I was pointing to. Piratey pirates are defined by character. And even then, Doflamingo is first and foremost a king and black market broker, so the OP is wrong.

Is this really the best example you have to offer as a well designed character for the West?

>Literally no color
>Nothing defining him from every other fuck boy with a beard
>No interesting costume in the slightest

West will always fail at creativity
It's why every game shat out in the West is some high fantasy with wolves and orcs, a war game, or a zombie game.

how many Korean mmos even have pirates? come on dude, most Korean mmos are half naked elf bitches and girls in cheongsams and heels.

Wow black people even manage to fuck up something as simple as being a pirate. The fuck is with their clothing, those aint pirate clothes?

Literally all the people that works in league desing team are a bunch of SJW weebs, they take most of their inspiration in those kind of japanese characters because they are unique in their own way, GP is a pirate and all about his gimmick is vengeance but the other guy in the bottom, you don't know what the fk is thinking or what his gimmick is, also anime fking sucks and its for fags but also league team desing so their even.

THIS
>implying pirates wouldn't just rip clothes off corpses to look fly af
youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

No, I explain here
He squeezes the juice into his mouth

That's pretty inefficient. His crew would give him shit for wasting a fine orange. Why wouldn't he just peel the orange and eat it whole or something?

All these LoL babies defending their shitty game because it's art is slightly better than some random anime.

The top art is just as shitty as the bottom, just for different reasons.

The west has good characters and good creativity, the thing with japan is that they push the boundaries because fk everything, the west all ways plays it safe.

It's sounding gayer by the second

Uncreative my ass. If Japan designed this guy his name wouldn't be gangplank, it would be some weird shit like La Estranja de la Hoya, and instead of being a manly pirate dude it would prolly be a woman in a fur coat or a guy that looks like a woman wearing a fur coat and snakeskin leather pants.

Why the fuck are you autists arguing about the most trivial, inconsequential trite shit imaginable?

who's the generic guy in the top pic? I recognize Doflamingo of course, he's pretty badass. But the top guy doesn't ring a bell.

Does the west know anything about good and proper color choices? You can't see shit in either of these pictures.

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It's that manly dwarf-sorry, pirate. From that game.

>calling one piece's art shitty

It isn't shitty, its an acquired taste, it grows on you.

I'd take stupid over bland any day.

i think you're overseeing that bottom is a modern pirate. Look at pirates today and what do they wear and look like?

everything about the looks of the guy on the bottom screams pirate
the tanned skin, the maniacal look on his face and the skull and crossbones on his sleeve

guy on top looks like a generic dwarf

>western pirates have to eat oranges to stave off nigger disease
>eastern gentleman gives zero shits because his pirating business is so profitable his diet is perfectly balanced
WESTFAGS BTFO

Anything will grow on you if you give it 800 episodes.

You were saying?

Ruby is a Darkstalker. Deal with it.

You don't recognize motherfucking GANGPLANK?


Gangplank also fights like a pirate should, observe:
youtube.com/watch?v=3kysDbC-NTo

>uses a flintlock pistol and a cutlass, sets his sword on fire to burn people, uses barrels full of gunpowder that he makes explode, orders his crew to fire cannonballs on you from across the map

Meanwhile lets see what that weirdo flamingo guy does:
youtube.com/watch?v=--mdXSYJ46Y

>scratches you like a girl

Pathetic.

The OP image is pretty bad though.

The source material generally has good art but a lot of the marketing material, anime art and licensed games based on it don't capture the strengths of Oda's style.

The art style is shitty as fuck but the paneling and dynamics are great. I know it sounds paradoxical but I swear it's true. I still hate the style.

so if you put a dwarf on a ship he becomes a pirate? also pirates were rarely fat and fucked each other in the butts on a daily basis

>Using anything from LoL as an example of good design
OP you lost the argument before it even began.

Modern pirates suck, classic is the best

>Using anime art

>manga is about pirates with superpowers with the MC being made of rubber
>pirate uses superpower
>pathetic!
Open your mind, my man. You seem to be struggling with too much creativity.

in one piece only few look like the stereotypical western pirates

Why the fuck do you keep calling Gangplank a dwarf? He isn't short, compare his character model to others ingame, he's fucking tall. Also he isn't fat, he's sturdily built.

What's that image you posted? The next homo game for faggots?

I dunno OP, but your definition of a pirate is pretty odd if you're posting an image of a viking and calling it a pirate.

lol has good design

The point is gangplank has no powers, he fights as a human pirate against all the magic using super powered freaks in the League of legends, because he's a manly man, a real man. He doesn't need magic to fuck you up. Just give him a powder keg and a gun.

This, you just don't waste your small supply of fresh food on a ship just to "look manly". That was designed by someone who thinks there are supermarkets in the middle of the sea.

>Flintlock pistols are a pirate thing

No they aren't retard. Just because the golden age of piracy took place during an era where flintlock technology was commonly used in the western hemisphere does not mean it was unique to pirates.

Its Gangplank's character models ingame and his skins... LoL isn't gay.

you mean the dirty, disease riddled faggots without teeth who buttfuck each other and shit out their diarrhea filled bowels over the ships railing?

Sure if you are 13 years old and think the throwing every cliche and stereotype at a character makes them cool or well designed.

oh, lmao another one of Riot's *totally sweet* redesigns I guess. I dumped that game back in 2012. Or was it 2011? I don't know. New GP looks pretty generic, though. So did old, but he's not some ideal design or anything.

Doflamingo's power allows him to control people with strings like a literal puppetmaster. He likes to make friends attack and kill each other, or force people to commit suicide. He's a cool dude and One Piece is a cool series.

It you post a picture of snake and Captain America, which would you say looks more like a soldier?

If you posted a picture of Sub Zero and Yuffie from ff7 which would you say looks more like a Ninja?

Japs don't know what pirates look like because their faggy bamboo rafts weren't good enough to get off their shitty island, they didn't even know what boats were until the dutch showed up.

Compared to the guy OP posted, Gangplank is a literal dwarf.

Actually in LoL the pirates have their own city, with a market

That's not really piratey though. Maybe manly, definitely poorfag tier, but not piratey. Who ever said pirates are brave and manly? Weren't they the underhanded tacticians of the sea, willing to kill women and kids for the gold?
If you have a superpower you can't get rid of, why not use it? Moreover, if you have a superpower that can decimate villages, why choose powder kegs over it?
Do you think your dwarf wouldn't use the power if it was given to him?

Another Pirate designed by a Japanese.

Your argument makes no sense.

>using a power to make others fight your battles for you. Gangplank disapproves of such cowardice. Also have a space pirate gangplank

youtube.com/watch?v=gKce96nhHVY

>LoL isn't gay
>posts a lineup of Village People at Sea: The Musical

Top doesn't look like a pirate either. It looks like fanart of someone's dwarven hunter in world of warcraft

as generic as it gets.

People play ASSFAGGOTS?

That flamingo guy is almost 10 feet tall, that isn't fair, anyone would be short next to that.

So why do they struggle with scurvy then? And this still doesn't solve the issue of your captain fucking up your rations in the middle of the sea.

He's a butt pirate with a fetish for angsty teenagers law

The fuck, they changed Gangplank again? Looks awful.

>a city
In One Piece pirates dominate the earth.