Tekken 7 sold more units in two months than Street Fighter 5 did in a year

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How do you feel about the state of fighting games?

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>tekken 7 released in 2015
>two months

You rest on your laurels and produced a shitty product, Capcom deserves what it gets for releasing what amounted to a half finished game

Crapcom has a track record of not listening to their fans and disrespecting all of their franchises.

Namco knows what the fuck they're doing, it doesn't come as a surprise.

It's funny. T7 suffers from the same flaws as 5 but gets away with it just because

comparing console release to console release you drooling retard

Game design you don't enjoy =/= flaws

Besides the terrible story mode and complete lack of tutorial, the game is a 10/10.

Do you mean to say that Tekken 7 is all about dashing in and forcing 50/50 situations?

They're not counting arcade units.

You are literally retarded.

first post dumbest post

t. 3rd dan

And the rage.

Rage is a good mechanic.

The netcode is still GARBAGE

No

maybe if you play on PS4/wifi

So this is the average Street Fighter player.

It doesn't have rematch in 2017 with 50 seconds load times. Playing in a lobby is fucking painful. Fuck you Harada.

NO U

>has an actual story mode on release
>roster is SIGNIFICANTLY bigger
>constant feedback loop between customer and company
Tekken 7 isn't perfect, especially with the shitty DLC practices and still rather lackluster content, but SFV didn't even have real fucking lobbies at launch.

>It doesn't have rematch in 2017 with 50 seconds load times
That's because you are a console only mongoloid in 2017.

>Street Fighter player picks up T7 for shits and giggles
>wipes the floor with seasoned veterans of the series
>eventually gets bored and goes back to SF
Great "game" you have there, Tekkucks.

Fighting games are often held to the highest degree when it comes to skill ceiling but to me it still seems to be just about luck as much as any other competitive game, just dashing in and leave your opponent to take an educated guess at what you will do if they guess wrong you will launch them and take half their HP repeat.

I mean the people crying for single player stuff aren't demanding a lot. Just an arcade ladder with some endings. Not hard.

I play on pc. The load times are a bit faster but it's still completely buttfucked retarded that there is no rematch and a complete blunder. And they didn't even address this, what the fuck.

Not him, but I play on PC and waiting times between matches are significantly longer than in SFV, which were already bordering at unbearable sometimes. Not to mention only half of the rematch requests seem to go through.

The actual netcode is usually solid, though.

No, the load times are INSANELY faster than on console if you play on anything but the toastier of toasters. Loading times are a non-issue on PC.

So what?

PS4 owners are the majority of the sales, WE should be priority since we decide the entire fate of the series. PCbros only brought 300k out of the 1.6 million copies sold. If they don't patch this shitty netcode i'm just gonna go back to GG and never support tekken again

Yet here we are, a year into SFV's release, and still no arcade mode.

It literally took more effort to shit out a story mode than it would've taken to include an arcade mode, let that sink in.

People still crying about an arcade mode don't actually play fighting games.

You get what you pay for, friend.

So what you're saying is you're a fucking retard with retarded demands

>SFV would have sold more if it released on xbo-

>ust dashing in and leave your opponent to take an educated guess at what you will do
That's boiling it down to a babbling retard level of thought. That would imply the entire game is just blocking 50/50s. It's about reads and execution, but it takes work to even set your self up properly to get attempts at those. If it was all luck, then fighting games wouldn't have extremely consistent results at which players were good and winning.

Loading times are INSANELY slow compared to any game made by a competent developer. You know, games where you can rematch instantly without reloading every fucking thing. Stop defending them for shitting down your throat retard, there is no excuse for a Tekken game to not have a basic function like rematch.

BREAKING NEWS, GAME SERIES THAT HAS SOLD MORE THAN OTHER GAME SERIES FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS STILL SELLS BETTER THAN OTHER GAME SERIES

OH ALSO THEY BOTH SOLD LIKE FUCKING SHIT ANYWAYS SO GG

>ONLY I PLAY VIDEO GAMES!

Just because someone's not playing online doesn't mean they're not playing. It means they're not playing with YOU. Because you're a fucking cunt.

>SFV has no arcade mode
>instead, survival and multiple story modes
>people bitch endlessly

>T7 has an arcade mode
>no intro, no outro, no context - nothing
>5 fights long
If you unironically praise this shit, you deserve a bullet between the fucking teeth.

And the people who "do" play SFV don't make up a big enough community to sustain the game financially. Let's face it though, if people weren't being paid to play SFV, it'd be deader than SFxT.
How is it retarded to ask for something that literally every other fighting game in existence includes by default? Even the worst fighting games in existence have an arcade mode, so why did Capcom feel the need to remove such a fighting game staple?

How are they going to patch wi-fi connections exactly? The reason why 'netcode' is bad is because so many of you fuckers use wi-fi. It's not something the devs can resolve.

Nah, they're not playing because they're weak and afraid of competing. Deep down, they know they'd get their shitter shattered, so they retreat to arcade mode to maintain the fantasy that they could beat everyone if they only tried, but they chose not to.

>You deserve to die for not sharing my retarded opinion.

STREET FIGHTER V WAS A MISTAKE

SFIV sold more than tekken 6

buttmad because tekken sold more
cant wait for fighter z to btfo sf5

>if people weren't being paid to play SFV
That's grand, lad. Have you received your paycheck for playing SFV this month?

There is an undeniable luck factor but, it's weighed by the difference in skill between your opponent and you. If you are constantly pressured into guess-fest mix-ups, then you are probably bad at playing the neutral game, which is the root of the problem. This also varies wildly between games.

The honest to dishonest scale in recent times looks a bit like this.

KoF XIII > SF4 > KoF XIV > Tekken 7> SF5 > BB >> GG Xrd >> UMVC3

Games in the middle tend to be dishonest until you memorize ALL of the match ups.

You do know what he meant by actually playing, right? Story mode in a fighting game is about 5% of it at most. It's barely worth the hour it takes. A good tutorial mode is infinitely more important and worth bitching about way more than a story or arcade mode.

I bought this game for the cute vampire girl. I'm happy with my purchase.

Yet GG with the same connection are fine lmfao

>Deep down, they know they'd get their shitter shattered, so they retreat to arcade mode to maintain the fantasy that they could beat everyone if they only tried, but they chose not to.
Projections aside, what's the issue here? It's not like grinding out online matches will make you an inherently better player than someone who plays at locals or anything.

Survival mode sucks and you know it. Also Multiple story modes? What those two ROUND baby fights? With awful art?

>>T7 has an arcade mode

And treasure mode
and story mode
and character edit mode (which sucks worse than 6's but still)
and a larger roster
and endings using the in game models.

>hur durr you deserve to get shit.

Cry more Capcbro. Maybe if you cry enough for them they'll make you a half assed Mega Man game

street fighter games sell really well

>SF4
>Honest
It was slow but that game certainly had bullshit

I sold my copy weeks ago so...yes, technically.

No matter what, Tekken 7 is still objectively worse than 6

You do know that most casuals plays with their friends right? Remember those? People who share your interests and would come over your house and invite you over to theirs so you could play in person?

But hey you sure are a super badass because you beat up a kid in California who won't even remember your user name.

Like I said, a fucking cunt.

He means some of the pro players. They straight up say the only reason some of them play is because it's where the money is. In japan many even call the game "Duty Fighter V". This affects the popularity of the competitive scene which in turn affects the end users to a degree.

>hurrr i dont caer about some streams, esports sucks

Sure, neither do I but a lot of people do

Meant USF4, mb. I did say in recent times.

t. Lars baby

Tekken's story mode was ass. None of the cool characters showed up, just a congo line of boring shitters like Lars and that fucking reporter.
They should follow Mortal Kombat's example, make the story actually about the tournament and give each character a chance to shine.
That said, it's still the most enjoyable fighting game I've played in a long time

Arcade mode isn't even used in arcades to any appreciable extent now that machines have training mode.

No it did not
shacknews.com/article/58546/capcom-updates-lifetime-software-sales
>Street Fighter IV (PS3, Xbox 360 / February 2009) - 2.5 million
eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-06-tekken-6-breaks-million-marker

Keep in mind that Tekken 6 had been out for less than 10 months at that point.

>And treasure mode
Skinnerbox that makes weak-minded idiots play for loot like MMO addicts.
>character edit mode
Ah yes, the argument to never feature customization items in a game ever again because of how ugly or flat-out stupid they are 98% of the time.
>and a larger roster
Doesn't matter, all Tekken characters play the same.

What is left is a game that is as barebone as SFV, yet SFV is demonized while T7 is worshipped.

Let's face it: People didn't buy T7 because they'd enjoy it, they bought it to spite Capcom, indicated by the steadily dropping playerbase. Tekkucks should be thanking Capcom for making their game seem more credible.

>go to play sfv online at any time.
>there's tons of people online and never run into repeated opponents.
> play tekken online.
>Have to wait a while to find matches. Sometimes there's barely anyone to play and are matched with the same person repeatedly.
Explain this then.

>arms will sell more
How does that make you faggots feel?

>"Tekken loading times are fin-"

>they bought it to spite Capcom,

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP PICKING ON MUH BABY!


The sad part is you really believe this, don't you

>PS4

Hilarious that everyone has suddenly forgotten how trashy SF4 was and wants to sing its praises now that SFV is even worse.

>Let's face it: People didn't buy T7 because they'd enjoy it, they bought it to spite Capcom
How fucking delusional do you have to be to seriously contemplate this? Not everybody is a Sup Forumsirgin, user. Most people dont' give a shit about FGC drama and are casuals.

Tekken pretty much always sold way more copies than SF tho. Even Mortal Kombat does.

Post World Warrior SF is only popular with the competetive scene. After that, only vanilla 4 got some love from casuals since there were jackshit competition.

That chain of argumentation doesn't even make sense. If other people make a living of playing a game, why would you as a regular person succumb to something you're not making money of? After all, watching would be enough, and yet the playerbase for SFV has been solid over the past months. It's just a lazy argument altogether meant to rationalize the larger playerbase of a game you dislike.

Also, I have yet to find a single reputable source for the Duty Fighter V thing.

>100% damage hit confirm 3rd character the game
>most honest
What the kek

>still being this triggered by an actually clever joke character

USF4 still had its bullshit, you can be "dishonest" without relying on a 50/50.
>Casuals
That's the entire point. Casuals shouldn't have a direction of a fighting game because they get the least out of it. You could release a turd but if it had a 10-hour storyline casuals would still buy it.

If only. We all had to wait for "early 2017".

>Loading times are a non-issue on PC.

I like Tekken 7 too but stop this "nothing's wrong with the game" bullshit. It makes you look like a completele fanboy moron.
Lobbies are beyond fucked in this game. I play with my mates all the time and it takes approx 40 seconds to get into a new match from the lobby screen. We all have the game on SSD.
Also in 2 player lobbies, I don't understand why they can't have the rematch option there. It's available in player matches and now in ranked mode too. What the fuck is Namco doing? Also is the loading screen necessary after you agree to a rematch?

Are you fucking stupid?
>Street Fighter IV has sold 3.4 million units
capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html

If you count the rereleases and new version it's at 8.6 million

Are you denying the USF4 wasn't on the "honest" side of the spectrum compared to most of the games that game out after it?

The only good thing about Tekken is playing a street fighter character on it

>Clever

Especially Tekken players, lol

But seriously: Hating Capcom is all the rage these days, so you fags jump on any new fighting game in order to "get back at them". Just because it's stupid doesn't mean it doesn't happen on a larger scale.
>KoFXIV will DESTROY SFV!
>GGR will DESTROY SFV!
>Rev2 will DESTROY SFV!
>DBFZ will DESTROY SFV!
And so on. Quite sad desu.

I bought it for vampire tits, but her playstyle is too fucking different from normal tekken so i was forced to play milf tits instead.

>T6 had arcade mode with cutscene endings for all the characters
>expansive storymode with coop and rpg elements presented as beatemup with full moveset of every character
>Armor King and Raven in character pool instead of stupid sluts and maximum pandering guest characters
T6 was the best Tekken.

There is definitely people playing it so they can get sponsored. Japan doesn't have tournament payouts so it's the only way they can make money, and sponsors are only really interested in SFV because of its international esports profile. Better playing SFV 6 hours a day and Guilty Gear 6 hours a day than working 8 hours a day and playing Guilty Gear 4 hours, or whatever.

That's including $5 PC sales, which is bullshit, and including rereleases is fucking retarded. It's also still less than Tekken 6 anyways, which passed 3.5 million in 2011.

...

>There is definitely people playing it so they can get sponsored.
Nigga, the vast majority of players haven't even broken into Gold rank. It's a stupid argument that makes anyone who spouts it look dishonest.

>That's the entire point. Casuals shouldn't have a direction of a fighting game because they get the least out of it.

Oh, Fuck you. Here's a tip, retard. CASUALS are the only reason these games exist in the first place. Capcom isn't spending millions on this things to cater to the small hand full of PRO BADASS HARDCORE E-WARRIORS like you.

CASUALS MAKE THE INDUSTRY. You're not the only ones who get a say in this because you wasted your life on them. Don't be conceited. As far as Capcom is concerned you're all just morons dumb enough to pay for the chance to shill for them.


>You could release a turd but if it had a 10-hour storyline casuals would still buy it.


Right, and if you released nothing but wire frames swatting at each other you shit cunts would pay out the ass for the chance to beat some random tosser across the country.

You're not special. You're a self absorbed embarrassment who's done nothing but destroy the very genre you claim to be a fan of with your arrogance.

You don't get free pressure or mixups in XIII, ever. You literally can't say the same thing about any of the other games listed. I don't deny some obscure anime fighter could dethrone it as the most honest contemporary fighter, but out of the ones listed, it's the most honest by far.

>make bad game
>sells like shit
>make good game
>sells like hotcakes

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resist fascism and Trump comrade

>CASUALS MAKE THE INDUSTRY.
It's so funny to see Sup Forums trying to appear hardcore in most other genres, but then they're dropping turds like this one when it comes to fighting games. It's always fighting games when Sup Forums decides to justify being shit.

Don't be so angry because you're bad, user.

I never realized how fucked up modern fighting games are when USF4 is actually on the honest side.

That's an alt. costume at best, not an actual character user.

>Getting this trolled on Sup Forums.
newfags

Because it's always fighting games that have the worst HARDCORE fan base.

>sales are an indicator of quality
You sure must like PUBG and Overwatch right now.

How? There are rotten apples in any community, but the average fighting game player will help you as long as you're willing to learn.