Can we have proper discussion?
>Dev doesn't like racial term
>Wants him to take down and threatens to sue Felix if they don't
>they said on their site they don't mind let's players but are actively targetting felix because they don't like him.
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Do you think this would prompt other developers to file DMCAs or sue against Youtubers who didn't sign any contracts, just because they don't like the person?
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eceleb trash needs to go
>Can we have proper discussion?
No because anyone who is even slightly critical of a children's entertainer using the word nigger while livestreaming will be called a tumblr neogaf cuck feminazi SJW extremist.
It involves devs of a game even if you don't think let's players are part of video game culture or video game devs are video game related topics.
You could see gaming videos being taken down. I'm pretty sure you might consider gaming videos video game related.
But black people can say "honky" "snow monkey" "pasty ass motherfucker" etc as if its just part of their everyday vocabulary and nobody complains.
People just need to stop being triggered snowflakes and stop blowing shit out of proportion.
eceleb drama is the bread and butter of Sup Forums
And whoever said it would be right.
Do the devs even have the grounds for a DMCA or is the Master Baiter covered by fair use? This is the only issue I give a shit about because it's got potential to be abused by asshurt devs in a lot of ways.
You want a serious answer? Here it is.
Black people talk and talk and talk about how race separation is terrible, and how it shouldn't be a thing, but then they preach that a word can only be used by one race. Their race. Pretty fucking hypocritical.
Is PewDiePie fucking retarded for saying it anyways? Absolutely. Because what I have to say, and what you have to say, has no bearing on the world, and the media is gonna blast his ass for saying it regardless.
But do I think PewDiePie saying "nigger" should be a big deal? No. It shouldn't. It's just a word, and no matter how often people say it isn't, it really is JUST a word.
Is that a good enough answer for you?
Can we stop having this thread now?
He did nothing wrong except for apologizing for having said nigger.
Anyone interested in a Firewatch mod which changes every voice line to the word nigger?
This.
you cant be racist to whites
>7 more years
>Say something in an unrelated stream they don't like
>This is years after their game is out when he's already given them significant free publicity
>File unjustified DMCA requests against videos of your game to... Express your displeasure? To be offended on niggers' behalf?
Fuck these developers, they are whiny cunts and niggers
he apologized? well all my respect for him went out the window
Let's play fall under a weird category, they could fall under fair use but then again it may not.
Some people get their fill of a video game by playing it not really watching others play it like PUBG or a more gameplay driven game while story games may not be as their entire experience is watching it.
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This whole thing is stupid, it's literally just because it's PDP and just because PDP is famous. I've seen lots of white LPers scream NIGGER in their videos and streams and nobody gives a shit. Hell, if a white LPer is in a group with at least one black person that's basically carte blanche for them to nigger up the whole niggering niggerhood. Oneyplays have made jokes about saying the n word. But one of them is mexican and gay so faggot and spic are both on the table (though they self censor presumably to aboid demonetization).
I can only imagine the ultimate LPer supergroup to be a diverse cast of people from different racial backgrounds and beliefs, JUST so that they collectively have the unspoken permission to use every fucking racial slur known to man.
he's fucking retarded for saying it, not because of muh racism, that's more of an american problem, doubt that the fucking swede had anything to do with american's enslaving blacks, I don't think he's actually racist, he's just one of us, in a sense that he's been on the internet for ages, where nigger gets thrown around constantly, so it really doesn't hit harder than calling someone a motherfucker or a cunt. Also, words only have power if you give them power, with this outrage, nigger just gained a ton of power. But yes, he's retarded for not watching his mouth, he's the biggest youtuber, he knows, especially after the WSJ debacle that people are just waiting for him to fuck up, and if he fucks up, it hurts the entire platform.
The Dev is an absolute fucking weenie though, abusing the DMCA like this is setting a dangerous precedent. Next, devs will take down game reviews and shit because they don't like the bad press. More copyright abuse, yay
So did they actually take any videos down or is it just empty threats at this point?
Did he? I only saw him say "sorry" literally immediately after saying "nigger" in the stream.
It is percectly in their right to take down a video with their game, however it wont bring PDP any damage at all and in fact the whole situation is just a developer trying to shill his shitty game.
>threatening to sue
PDP himself set the video private, he doesn't want a copyright strike on his channel, since if you get 3, youtube deletes your account.
>developer of walking simulator trash
>implying his opinion matters
I never watched Pewdiepie, but fuck walking simulators.
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I had Firewatch on wishlist.
Going to remove it now.
*has no problem with children listening to rap music*
I'd rather a children's entertainer refrain from spouting profanities live, but I assume degeneracy is fine when it's /ourdegeneracy/.
>all my respect for him
why would you have that in the first place
>Be Pewdiepie
>Dev of FireWatch is a mega ass faggot
>Go back in time
>Don't give FireWatch any attention, don't play it, sick of giving this dev more and more chances to make money off of what I make
*projects out of his ass*
You're dodging a bullet there. Literally just watch a lets play, you'll get the same experience as playing it.
This, unironically. Pretending that this shit happens in a vacuum and has no wider impact on the video game industry is delusional.
We're talking about the dev suing because he doesn't like a streamer in another video they did. Despite saying they were fine with LPs.
It could make it so we see fewer video game videos if at all in the future.
>Make money by taking someone else's product and showing it to other people, adding nothing of value.
>muh ITS TRANSFORMATIVE
Devs can do what they want. Fuck ecelebs
>HURR DURR I BETTER MAKE SURE TO GET THAT GAME TITLE INTO THE OP PIC
Reported, you fucking shill. Those spineless fucks won't go through with anything because the moment they do they'll be liable for false advertising.
>2017 Pewdiepie
>a children's entertainer
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Can we stop using this site? The owner is a sperg who logs people who use it, he's also an idiot:
>decide to go to Russia for a trial
>decide it was a bad idea
>get stopped by finnish border guards and sent back to Russia
>block all finnish ISPs because they're fascists
This. Good post, user.
I look forward to a month from now when no one cares about this whole thing.
So if a negro streamer would have said "fuck that white cracker" you wouldnt be mad? But if pewpew says nigger then its 100% okay?
>an honest to god thread about pewdiepie
you clowns are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now
I do have a problem with children listening to jungle beats so no.
>But black people can say "honky" "snow monkey" "pasty ass motherfucker" etc as if its just part of their everyday vocabulary and nobody complains.
have you ever met an actual black person?
Who is making money of whose work though? The dev of the let's players publicity or the let's players of the dev's game?
>white
>gets offended by another white guy saying nigger
Why are leftists mentally ill?
firewatch isn't a videogame
Now you are getting how racism works
If this shitstorm is anything to go by the opposite will happen
This will tech devs not to get political
Fair use is a flat out loophole for this type of media. If game corporate ever cared enough they would probably win if ever brought to court. Fair use laws are outdated as fuck for current day everything.
I haven't seen a single black person getting offended by it. Only whites with agendas.
Youtube
I want ecelebs to die
Anyone who likes Pewdiepie needs to fuck off to reddit
>tfw become friends with Muslim just so I can call him a dirty goat fucker
Dev needs to quit being such a nagger
It's more of a reactionary "sorry" right after he said it as if he was being rude in polite company rather than a tearful apology, begging for someone to chop his dick off.
Most eceleb threads are about shit that happens in vacuum that has zero effect on the industry, except for that circlejerk, e.g. threads about DSP, Donkey, Best Fags, etc.
We say "White nigga" instead of those outdated terms.
Its ironic since they're the ones who imbue the word with the power to cause such offense.
"Faggot" on Sup Forums has no meaning because its been so overused, if only normies realize they could apply this to all slurs, the world would be the less offensive place they dream of.
Nah, he didnt make any apology video afterwards, he did put up a video "stream fail" the next day in which he made no mention of the incident. Baited people into clicking.
Okay, serious question. Why is it so offensive to people when nigger is used in this context? Its clear that it wasn't used towards any group of people or even any individual black person. How is this any different from using retard as an insult?
>Pewdiepie said nigger to someone who may not have been black and didn't have a black avatar.
Blackanon here, I'm used to people throwing the word nigger around so it doesn't mean anything really, but that really only applies on Sup Forums. I think it's a different case when you're a mega popular streamerguy with a ton of impressionable viewers.
I don't really care either way though desu. Racists gonna racist.
Assuming the influx of negative reviews on Steam hurts their sales, it should set a good example, as long as the publicity from this shit doesn't cause their sales to increase.
I like how the dev thinks this will affect PDP at all. PDP could upload a video if himself taking a shit and it would bring in as much revenue as indie walking sim video.
Even with one you can't stream irc
He said the r-word! Get him boys!
>its ok for children to witness violent murder on a daily basis in video games and movies
>WOOH THERE BOY YOU CANT SAY THAT WORD IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL BAD
thanks america
When did it become acceptable or even legal to film yourself going through a piece of media and actually earn money from it without any say from the original creator? What's stopping people from making "let's watch" videos of new movies or "let's read" of newly released books? Isn't that just theft?
You are right 50 million children aren't dumb enough to buy that game
nice racism bro
Do you get hurt if a white friend calls you nigger in a friendly manner or would you tell him to stop
>it's only ok for MY race to be racist!!
WE
>Firewatch devs
Nothing of value.
>guy said mean word during a livestream while playing videogames
>this is cause for mass outrage
I live in california and i still think this is too 1st world problems for me.
>everything is a shill
Holy shit, the autism
I find it extremely ironic that these people wouldn't have any fuss with a tv/music channel exposing kids to filth but they get upset when some guy on youtube with no real control over who watches his stuff says some dumb shit.
This is such a fucking non-issue yet somehow it's worth all this discussion which in the end only makes the guy more famous.
Is PewDiePie redpilled?
Or maybe indie devs should make non-shit games and thereby solve the whole issue that watching some faggot play them for 30 minutes on youtube makes all incentives to buy the product fly out the window...................................................................................................................
youtube muddied the waters a lot by slowly implementing ways to make money
remember, 10 years ago 0 people made money off youtube or any of this streaming stuff
the laws are slowly catching up and copyright is going to get stricter, as new internet regulation has shown us
Fuck you, nigger
>waaaah he said a word that makes him a racist :((((
Because YouTube isn't Sup Forums.
And, for the record, if he said retard, I'm sure the media would attack that too. It just might not be as successful because these past 2 or so years, race wars have become really prevalent.
This guy is right, at the very least, in regards to how the general public might view saying nigger. There are black people that in reality wouldn't give a shit, there are white people that wouldn't give a shit, but when you're someone sat upon a pedestal, and used as a mascot for YouTube essentially, you have to watch what you say. Because the societal consensus is that you shouldn't be using that word so liberally.
I'm not here to argue on whether or not you should or shouldn't be able to use the word, but you should, if you're a quote unquote "celebrity", make sure you don't say that word, as it's a controversial topic right now.
They don't know what the JAZZ is all about! Y'see?
nigger
I don't think pew die pie's fans listen to rap lol
If by redpilled you mean learned to pander to reddit even more, then yeah.
Nigger has historical significance and is also way worse of an insult to normal people than retard. You can call anyone a retard with no real repercussion since it's been normalized to an extent (though there are people who will get offended), but that's not the case with nigger, which directly refers to a specific group of people with the intent of being an insult. Even if it wasn't "aimed" at anyone, the word is inherently aimed at black people.
what you're suggesting is only a theoretical possibility that someone might have bias, which wouldn't have any effect anyway
the reality of things is that the people who definitely do have bias are the ones filing lawsuits, and that's what is real, everything past that is theoretical = imaginary and irrelevant
Basically this
It's because ameritards have this apologist feelin that they have to censor nigger and erase that word from existence because of shit that happened in history. Just like germany and any mention of nacism
Because it's free marketing. They have every right to control it though. Nintendo cracked down on it recently
>Tfw you will be alive to watch all let's players get put out of a "job"
I had my doubts, but man it's really happening.
Pewdiepie was in the wrong, desu. Shouting "nigger" when you're angry is weird, it would be like if I stubbed my toe and shouted "CRACKER" or "WETBACK". It's like you're associating black people with feeling upset. Also, kids watch him.
racist
>vanaman
>literally all the devs criticizing him are jews
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Saaaaay Nigger
>the only person he has spoken to since that livestream is fucking Sargon of Akkad of all people
Literally /ourguy/
Not all, a couple will turn into company pets and agree to be on a short leash in exchange for not having to real work. You can't kill the shill.