>Hey it's Geoff from the Overwatch team
>Back again to rework or nerf another hero that was completely fine before
>Because I Geoff Kaplin only mid-low plat so the entire dev team nerfs and buffs around the cry babies in this elo
Seriously I want to come back to this game but the way they just knee jerk, break and over power characters makes the game no fun to play.
>Sup Forums: "you touched my main, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
They've yet to touch my main but if you think the Roadhog nerf or Mercy rework were warranted you're as clueless as the dev team
>this is fine.
The mercy rework was the most warranted rework in this entire game. Her rez is unhealthy because it makes the game "press Q to invalidate the enemie's team strategy"
Unfortunately, that picture tells more about the community playing the game than the game itself.
The community basically calls "trashpick" or "trollpick" everything that needs more than one neuron to play. If the hero isn't a gotta go fast dps, then it's not worth playing. Teamplay? Lol no. Everyone must go alone.
The community is ruining Overwatch. The dive comp has already been defeated by koreans with unusual heroes. And yet the community keeps playing dive. It's a hopeless community.
>put a whiny bitch from an top everquest II raid guild
>on charge of fucking balance of a FPS
They went full retarded, wrong guy for the job.
I guess but never felt like a problem or an issue. I just see it as "should have bullied Mercy more." If mercy got a rez off I blamed myself not the design of the character, it just felt like a part of the game and it was a nice game changer to have especially when the rest of the game is "press Q to wipe the team"
>Mercy rework
>Not warranted
Yeah, I sure love seeing Mercy standing in spawn with rez all game with literally no way to kill her before her team.
Mercy is perfectly warranted. No skill, plays hide and seek and can single handily undo an enemy teams well timed and executed assault solely because they didn't kill the mercy first who is the most mobile support character in the game. Her rework looks promising .
Roadhod needed to be changed but they did the it the dumb way. I still get work done with him, it just takes more effort which can be annoying I agree but I ain't in the camp of exaggeration of "hes unplayable"
you're a faggot. this game was a disaster for a whole year, tanks and supports completely OWNED the game and they kept nerfing offense and defense heroes who tried to challenge this.
now you're sad because Blizzard finally pull their heads out of their ass somewhat.
The thing with her rez is that its a failure in game design on blizzards part: She is supposed to be a simple but solid character, with a low skill ceiling and floor but still viable. What happened was that they gave the literal easiest character in the game the most game changing ult possible which is just unhealthy. At present, there is no mechanical difference between a Grandmaster Mercy and a Plat Mercy. Thats where the "Mercy main" meme comes from, there are people who were bronze season 4 and got to grandmasters season 5 getting carried playing only Mercy because as long as you get a good rez you got 30 points garanteed
They should copy champions from paladins like all the aoe and return the game to its ""tank meta"" since they exist to stop death ball comps
i mean they've already been doing that
Can you please post a picture of another hero shooter game with as many heros that has a completely balanced meta?
Mercy hasn't been able to rez from spawn for to seasons.
Hog isn't unplayable he's just not efficient, which is the reason for the skew here characters like Soldier are just jack of all traits with no weakness which is the larger problem with the game. Like I said I feel like the mercy rework ins't fair as many ults are instakill team wipes, and to be able to undo that is nice.
She was the balance to the chaos, yea Pharah just ult'd and whiped half the team but your mercy was smart when inside for bit and undoes the 4 man kill. I don't see how that's unfair. If your mercy got caught out so be it.
Fair enough this game has shitty SR distribution but Mercy isn't that easy I do horrid with her personally. I also feel like she has to be baby sat more than any other hero for her to really make a difference
>"nerfing defence and offence heroes that tried challeging it"
>Hanzo's arrow hitbox was gigantic
>scatter still can instakill a rein or winston if used right
>Genji literally dictated season 1 and 2
>offence and defence represents 60% of the hoster
I'm not defending the bullshit that was season 3/4 with the deathball thing and season 5 with the stupid dive meta, but saying that offence heroes "dindu nuthin' " is retarded
Not that guy, TF2 is in the same situation despite having less classes. People only play Scout, Soldier, Demo and Medic at high level. The rest is ignored.
No multiplayer fps is safe.
offense and defense heroes should be about killing people
tanks doing all the killing while being unkillable and supports being unkillable is bullshit.
Agreed, but I think that Mercy rework is fine, it's just feels right to play this hero with new changes.
The problem is, the single thing you need to do with mercy is use your healing beam and then boom, you got an ult. Its the easiest ult to charge, the most game changing and requires small to none mechanical skill to be used effectively, while most of the "press q to teamwipe" ults tend to require aim, positioning and mechanical skill to be effective. Ults like graviton require just timing, but thats the longest ult charge of the game
She can sit and wait in spawn on 2cp maps, last I had it happen was Horizon. Where mercy was able to sit in spawn until their team needed a res.
this
why there are people that don't understand the rework? Mercy literally had a ctrl+z ability that sends alll your strategy to the trash, she can had it in literally 30/40 SECONDS. Fucking mercy one tricks fags excuse under the "J-just kill the mercy first" and "tracer can build her ult much more fast". Besides she has a get out of jail ability every two seconds and was invincible when rezzed. About "just kill her first lol", well fuckers the same thing i can say about every other hero, Genji wipes your team with his ult too fast? just kill him first lol
Geoff YEOS
why wouldn't they balance around the largest part of the player base?
>supports being unkillable
Nigga what, the dive meta shits on non-mobile supports hard. Playing Zenyatta this season was a nightmare, the only supports that were remotely consistent were Mercy and Lucio, with Ana still present because Bio-nade is busted, and thats when your Ana was a god
They really need to nerf scatter shot
And make Mei and Hanzo's arrows match their graphic.
Lmao at the Hanzo mains who think they're "good" because their arrows are the size of fucking tree trunks
You mean Hanzo/Widow/Genji players in the same team?
this is more a problem with the stale 5cp meme the comp community wants to push
on payload and attack/defense maps all classes are used more or less equally, save for pyro
>Overwatch copying from Paladins
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Please, don't panic.
>The dive comp has already been defeated by koreans with unusual heroes
Got me interested, tell me more
>we want bastion to see more play so we are changing him
>OH WHOOPS IT ACTUALLY WORKED UNDO UNDO
now bastion is still shit AND less fun. based blizzard balancing
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Mercy and Roadhogs were completely and utterly broken
>press q and revert everyones ultimates
>then the enemy mercy presses q and undoes that ultimate
>entire game is based on who ults first
>600hp self healing "tank" who can outdps everyone else in the game, also stunlock and one shot most of the heroes
>save for pyro
Goddamn it, even in OW threads now
That's a dude
i really enjoy nu-hog and having a lot more fun with him now
because thats stupid, every average jow tih bad aiming skills can claim that Widow is underpowered, then she gets a buff and becomes a literal god then everyone complains she's too strong
You balance this kind of game with the top players in mind exactly because of that, they know more about the innerworking of the meta that any dev or """""""skillfull"""""" plat does
Since the axetinguisher nerf, he's never been the same.
Taking away his ability to headshot while in his sentry mode was retarded
someone post that webm when roadhog refuses to kill mercy and then he kills her and jumps from a cliff lol
Glad someone agrees Roadhogs nerf was bullshit and now he's literally the worst Tank out shined by every other option.
>wanting balancing based around the upper few %
Fuck e-sports
Roadhog is fucking fine you baby. You can still 1 shot people for days it's fucking funny how dumb people are on Sup Forums
You never balance based on the casual audience that has a far less comprehensive understanding of the game are you retarded?
So let me get this straight. You're mad because Mercy gets her ult from healing, which is her job, and you're mad because you think her job is easy.
Lucio is just as easy if not easier, and he has escape methods way better than Mercy. Lucio is just stay with your team and jump a ton. Mercy is a sitting duck most of the time, she's not hard to deal with you just have to bully her which most people are bad at which is why this nerf happened.
Solider is just a point and click adventure that anyone with basic skill can play though, and he gets a team wipe ult that can change before the point has been captured.
I don't even play mercy but you can't argue that a sitting duck healer, that has to be babysat and is all about positioning is "easy" you're pretty much making the game 5vs6 when you pick her she's such a handicap.
>"b-but the largest playerbase"
t. " I'm Gold but I actually deserve diamond"
but user 2 of the ow reworks are like paaldins champions
infact ow and paladins had reworked their gremlin mech champ at the same time, dva being after cuckus
the meta isnt as fucked in palifags as it is in ow with only 3 champs being unviable, 1 due to a shitty kit
Except you can't retard and that was his only saving grace he's literally worse at everything else other tanks can do. Sure he can hook enemies that don't have full health but a shit ton of the roster can pick off stragglers way more easily unless you have shit aim.
You can literally 1 shot all the dps characters including reaper. Get good.
How this numale everquest reject managed to land a lead position at a big name company is beyond me. He has absolutely no talent as a game designer. His only project so far is one of the worst games in recent memory.
>there are people like this. Who beloved that mercy is actually a high skill hero
>mfw
Actually I don't play competitive at all. That doesn't make it less retarded to balance assuming perfect coordination and communication when your game facilitates the opposite
>mercy is da ez mode cuz girls got to GM xddd
So why haven't anyone here done it then?
she looks like she's crying with laughter, not crying from sadness
No you can't faggot.
yes you can
No at all you hook, shoot and they walk away most of the time. You only get 1shots at half health etc. Hog was meant to be an initiator tank and way to deal with high movement characters like Genji and Tracer, now if he hooks either he can't kill them and they just zip on away.
It's dumb why would you takeaway the one thing he had which was his ability to secure kills. Yes he can still do that but not without help, you're better off playing any other thank than the glorified meat shield that is roadhog
You mean one of the best teams with the best teamwork beat another with mediocre picks? That doesn't make the picks good it means the players are that much better.
You can though.
Nigga, I'm a support main and I can safely say that she is the problem. Lucio after the rework is miles harder to play effectively than mercy, considering that she's not a "sitting duck". Her pistol is a viable defence mechanism. Not only that but guardian angel is one of the best mobility abilities in the game. I'm not mad that she can charge her ult fast, I'm mad that as being as easy as she is to play and master, she has such an impact that makes every other option of healer inferior, while having consistent healing
You can, just not 100% of the time. Also there is no real way to ensure you are going to be able to one shot, so there is absolutely no consistency.
Nope
maybe with discord
>a sitting duck with a massive movement ability up every 2 seconds and the most powerful health regen in the game that activates after a nano second of not taking damage
ooooh so hard to play
both mercy and lucio have a low skill floor the difference is lucio has a much higher skill ceiling with actual mechanical skill required to improve.
mercy needs baby sitting not because she is weak in a 1v1, but because she is played by brain dead faggots that refuse actually shoot someone in an fps and expect everyone to protect them and put in all the work
"H-ha ha! You can't complain about it being easy because you haven't d-done it, it doesn't matter if they w-were bronze the season before, if you dislike the exploit because its easy do it and see it for yourself!"
This is why this game is slowly dying
Not a very good strategy if you don't take out the healer first is it
Only specific DPS characters and there's still a inconsistency. Either way my point being he was nerfed to the point there's absolutely no point in picking him at a high competitive level over other tanks. His saving grace was a DEPENDABLE one shot. He can't one shot if it means only happening SOME of the time.
Her rez was a punishment for not prioritizing her, same way that the hook was a punishment for running around like a retard without paying attention
>pistol viable
If you play against people that aren't shitters you will die before you can even change your weapon and fire 2 shots.
>makes every other healer inferior
Lucio is hands down the best healer in the game no contest. In fact he is probably the best character in the game period.
I'm not saying she's a high skill hero, but I'm not gonna act like she's playing the game on easy mode that is a guaranteed ticket to masters like every meathead soldier main thinks. I can't play her and I've had some god awful Mercies try and fill. So I'll admit she does take some skill to play.
>well timed and executed assault
>didn't target the mercy
how is that in anyway well timed or executed then?
As usual Sup Forums is a bunch of shitters who hates any counterplay or gameplay that dosent involve headbutting their Q button and screaming
And now its Q to win teamfight without having to coordinate with the team to hunt the mercy first. How is making the game even more braindead better?
>kill the healer first
> mercy hides ina corner far away from the battle to just swoop right in and press q
I refuse to believe you think this is okay
It will never end. Name any hero that you think is currently fine. They'll be nerfed one day.
'waaaaaaaah it undoes my progress'
'invalidates the enemy team strategy' - a strategy that didn't play around ress is a shit one
It's like rushing down and never ever blocking in a fighting game and crying when you get uppercutted over and over.
Should have found and killed her.
If you genji/tracer/pharah isn't bullying mercy every team fight than you deserve for the res to go through.
It's no difference than soldier pressing Q and getting a team kill
If you can't do it then obviously you're too stupid to play an easy character designed for women. That's pretty pathetic.
It has been proven time and time again that the "hide and seek" shit that mercys are incouraged to do is unhealthy to the game, and people think that the problem is targetting the mercy first
Yeah lets play "hunt the mercy" and kill her a kilometer away from the objective, to ehn wipe her team so she can respawn and press Q and undo you killing her first
Pressing Q after you respawn to undo 3 ults is not counterplay, its bad game design
He's probably referring to the world cup where south korea was winning with "trollpicks" like Junkrat, keep in mind this was before the buff, this speaks more of the skill of the korean players than the state of the game in my opinion but there you go
the game is just relentlessly designed around dps players to the detriment of literally everyone else
Which i can understand from a selling games point of view, this thread is proof of it
However it doesn't really make a balanced game. Literally anything that has ever punished Damage heroes gameplay has been gutted
Dont want to bother positioning properly? Don't worry we'll gut Roadhog!
Don't want to play around cooldowns like Matrix? Don't worry hitscan! Headbutt that Q key whenever you like because it FEELS good!
Don't want to play around healer cooldowns like Ress or Zen ult? Dont worry! Here's a basic ability that removes Zen ult 100% and we've eviscerated Mercy! Keep on just pressing Q whenever you like! Don't think or anything like that haha!
If you dont play damage heroes the game is just not for you
Good luck targeting Mercy when she's literally hiding in spawn to then take two steps out and press Q.
You Mercy shitters are the most delusional fags around, worse than hogfags even.
People just want instant gratification when they got their ult.
>GOT ULT AND INSTANTLY SMASH Q
>OMG I GOT 4 KILLS
>Mercy leaps in because no one bothers to kill her and rezzes everyone
>OMG MERCY IS OP PLS NERF NO FUN
I don't need to play her to get to high elo, I'm already grandmasters. Its just sad seeing three people in a team that got to grandmasters and can't play anything other than Mercy
Yes it is different retard there are plenty of ways to counter Soldier's ult. Mercy will res the team instantly the second you hit Q unless you kill her. The very fact that the game has to account for always dealing with her first just goes to show how bullshit she is as a character.
Then you have maps where she can just camp in her spawn and wait until the teamfight is over. Her old ultimate was fucking retarded.
If you think shooting a tracer as Mercy is a better idea than running to a tank who can efficiently protect you, then I severely hope you have fun in as gold rank Mercy
>"Muh counterplay"
Goddamn, and I thought hogfags were delusional
This happened once in one of my ranked games. I was Winston and just body blocked her from coming out of spawn and she couldn't rez and we won.
>tfw it actually was the perfect time to panic
Its a fact res had to go people, the top mercy player even agreed with it
To think you still think its balanced even after the best Mercy main said its busted and unhealthy its just fooling yourself
Proven huh? Where's this 'proof'? You mean your opinion?
Also you can see how useless your argument is when you have to exaggerate so much 'a kilometer away'
Shes a 200 HP hero with contextual mobility - she's ridiculously easy to dive or run down. Pressure her and she either has to use her Ult to invul and escape which makes the ress shit, or she dies.
But hey, they'd rather design around shitters like you than any kind of strategy so more power to you i guess
>don't play competitive at all
then your opinion is invalid, shitter
>Hi it's Jeff from the overwatch team. With the buffs to Junkrat, we've decided that Genji now feels a bit on the underpowered side. We're happy to announce, live now on PTR, Genji can now deflect Junkrat's Riptire ulltimate! Once deflected, the Genji player gets to assume control over the tire for the rest of it's duration.
I agree though, even though I'm not in a top tier elo. They are in contact with so many top 500 hundred players who actually understand the changes better than they do.
and?
I agree, but the replacement ult isnt much better.
Except now res (+extra res from valkyrie) will be enough to equalise ult disadvantage without undoing a whole teamfight.
and its only going to keep happening, regardless if buffs/nerfs are necessary
games built around matchmaking will never be perfectly balanced because its an artificial way to nudge you into playing different and keep you occupied while you grind your worthless rank and cry about your teammates
strap in, accept it, and dont forget to buy lootboxes because thats exactly what they, and you, want
>"""""""competitive"""""" mode
>in Little Tykes My First FPS by (((Blizzard Entertainment)))
>mattering
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I love this board, always good for a laugh
I just wish they'd remove ults in general and decrease ability cool-downs/increase mobility.
>there are plenty of ways to counter Soldier's ult.
What Dv.a? Zarya for 2 seconds? Anyone else who gets near him is gonna get gunned down in a second, the only to kill and ulting soldier is pretty much from across the map or hop he's not looking at you
>Mercy will res the team instantly the second you hit Q unless you kill her.
Yea that's why if you see her flying in or about to pounce and ult you kill her in that moment I've done it plenty of times, especially if you see her GA over the dead player you can still get her before she get in range to get the res.
Like if you see her coming out of hiding kill her don't just scream know as she waltzes to the objective for 2 seconds.
It's not hard to find her hiding or get her before she ults you just suck at the game