Falcom released at least 10 great games in the pat 14 years. They have 70 employees on low wage working for a bowl of food and they don't even time to masturbate
Western studios like Bungie wasted almost half billion dollars in two games and they are forgettable even by low IQ FPS gamers.
Bioware wasted 100 million dollars in the past 6 years and their games will be forever known as glorified AAA shovelware.
Why are japanese people so good at video games? Why are western people so stupid and retard when it comes to making video games?
Because you're a biased weeb, who made this thread based on cherrypicking.
Michael Ramirez
>Falcom i dont even know which games this company made
Isaiah Anderson
I tried to like western games. I bought Doom, Tomb Raider, Uncharted, CS:GO, GTA V, Just Cause 3 and many more and I regret all these purchases
Jeremiah Davis
>Falcom released at least 10 great games in the pat 14 years. And absolutely none of them featured a story that actually went somewhere or a villain that wasn't holding back.
Juan Bailey
You realise there are small-time Western devs making niche products too, right?
Juan Flores
western devs still haven't figured out that genres other than shoot big gun exist. the ones that have figured that out are all pretentious retard assholes who make some of the worst "games" that only act as a vessel for their political ideas.
basically execs are too scared to take any risks and indies are too up their own ass to actually make a video game
Carson Jenkins
Remember that for every Falcom, there's two Idea Factorys
Levi Robinson
Like Gone Home and Depression Quest.
David Gutierrez
>like weeb games >like almost exclusively play weeb games sans 4x >own vita >seriously just can't into falcom games I fucking wish I can like them, but just nope. I have tried a lot of their games, all just feels so... boring.
Daniel Edwards
Are you excited for Trails of Cold Steel 3, Sup Forums?
Jackson Gonzalez
It's just a matter of game production costs have gone up and nobody can seem to grasp how to balance the hardware/tech advancement with the costs. Japan makes really shitty large scale games too.
Falcom is only good because they continue to make smaller scale games and like said there are plenty of small time Western devs too. You're just clearly a weeb who can't find the gems of both sides.
Justin Adams
And Undertale, Shovelware Knight, Meme Hyper Memer Drifter... all of them are 2D parodies of NES games that weren't even that great
Daniel Wood
Not at all.
Adam Anderson
When you have a ridiculously inflated budget you have to produce something that targets the largest possible audience in order to still make a product. This audience is the lowest common denominator. We are not the target audience, so it's best to just ignore them. There are plenty of indie and AA devs in the west making good products. I'm currently addicted to Divinity Original Sin 2, I haven't spent my time this week doing anything but hopping on the computer for 10 hours after work.
Oliver Morgan
OK, you don't like them. Move on and play what you like.
Why is it a problem that people like what you don't like, again? Why are they >low IQ FPS gamers
Quit being an arrogant slob, it's faggots like you who end up justifying the anti-anime shitposter crowd.
Jaxson Adams
tooweeb/10
Josiah Jones
I bought many indies, say a good indie and I'll check if I ever played. I regret buying Fez, Hyper Light Drifter, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight,etc. I remember buying the ''10/10'' Firewatch and I stopped playing after 30 min Bastion is another 10/10 by the media which I think is a 6/10 game which you can find better 2D games on PSP
Zachary Perez
*still make a profit
Cameron Williams
but think about japanese smaller budget like Akiba's Trip. There is nothing similar on the west When western studios make small budget games they end up with 8bit pixel art garbage with emotional memes to make you feel ''deep into the game xD"
Evan Hughes
SpaceChem Invisible Inc Rimworld Pathologic
Jaxson Harris
>CSGO probably because you're shit at the game
Angel Richardson
see
Kayden Price
I'm not better than anybody but you have to be braindead and brainwashed to enjoy CS:GO, Doom, Overwatch, Lawbreakers, etc. It's a fact they are garbage. It's like saying Miley Cyrus is just as talented as Mozart
Dominic Jones
Very.
Christopher Howard
>SpaceChem >Invisible Inc >Rimworld >Pathologic
I'll check them out
Angel Harris
Doom is good though.
Jacob Morgan
Yeah OK you're just making a shitposting thread.
I really fucking hate that Sup Forums has degenerated into either this, shitty meme-tier posts and samey OPs, generals OPs want to pretend are not generals, or endless console wars. I get a good thread to discuss a game and I watch it die fast, this one'll thrive because we keep biting.
Leo Reyes
What makes you think lets say trails cold steel, better than all those western shits? I tried and dont like both btw, just want to hear your opinion.
Hunter Murphy
That's partly because you're cherrypicking and partly because Japan culturally has a huge fangame (doujin) scene, which has been cultivated with love for quite a while. But I do agree that too many devs in the west value retro nostalgia factor over an actually original or compelling experience. Still, it's not like it's slim pickings or anything, you just have to look. There are plenty of decent western titles.
Gabriel Sanders
>Regreting purchasing Doom and GTA V >didn't buy even 1 (ONE) good indie You have shit taste, weeaboo, go back to your endless gratification slot machines with pedo pandering art, and far too many numbers and colours, for disguising their complete lack of good gameplay nor story.
Jaxon Perry
It wasn't always like that. Around 10 years ago the US industry was dominating the market and Japs just weren't pumping out the amazing games they used to. Their entire market in video games was in a freefall. Fast forward to today and thanks to hubris western devs think they don't have to try anymore, so you get garbage like this. Meanwhile Japan is bouncing back big time and you can see this with Zelda BoTW, NieR, Nioh, RE7 and Code:Vein.
Dominic Green
>if I like Miley Cyrus then you can't say she is not as talented as Mozart your argument is totally incorrect and illogical You are the shitposter
Dylan Morales
western developers inject their own politics into their games because fuckknows, and create mediocre experiences that will be forgotten a few months after release
japanese developers genuinely want to create an artful yet challenging product that will still be talked about and played a decade later
Luis Ward
>hey let's keep making the same game over and over again because braindead westacucks will keep buying it every year for 60 bucks Western gaming in a nutshell. And retards defend this shit.
Landon Lopez
You're not even considering the other side's argument at all, you're attacking the poster for presenting an opinion of neutrality, and you constantly go on about how logical and factual you're being about an opinion of yours.
Even if you genuinely believe you're not shitposting right now, you are. You have no intention of having a discussion or even a semi-compelling argument. Being so blatantly inflammatory in the opening post shows you never had one either. This is just an excuse to spam mindless vitriol at one another.
If Falcom games are so fun, why the fuck are you not playing them instead of essentially bitching other people aren't?
Lincoln Long
The combat is 10/10, something very hard to achieve in a turn based game. It doesn't get boring. The story is not bad but not great either but the way the game progress is how I remember playing SNES JRPGs when I was a kid. It flows naturally and there is no memes, straight gameplay all the time. >There are plenty of decent western titles. Well I enjoyed Horizon Zero Dawn but it's not something I would die for a sequel like Ys or Gravity Rush I remember 10~15 years ago the japanese industry had a lot of shovelware and some big games like Final Fantasy, Pokemon and Star Ocean. Today we have big FF games and smaller budget titles with good production value like Toukiden, Ys, God Eater, Freedom Wars, Dragon Quest Heroes, Dragon Quest Builders... even Star Ocean 5 I found very interesting if you ignore the glitches
Carson Powell
>Falcom released at least 10 great games in the pat 14 years And only a niche of forgettable fuckboys cares.
And Falcom is still a tiny company 99.5% of Americans and Europeans don't know even exists.
Eli Martinez
There is no point in neutrality if you ignore one side is right and the other is wrong. Neutrality means that you don't know which side is right or wrong. Neutrality DOES NOT MEAN that both sides are correct.
Jordan Moore
Im ok with normalfags and plebs buying western games. Its easier for me to identify shitters with no taste.
Adam Rogers
kinda agree, we been hearing about how great indies are for 10 years and almost all of them are crap.
Wyatt Harris
>Animelard telling others they have no taste. Shiggity-shiggity-shwa!
Nolan Howard
This isn't a matter where one side has to be correct or wrong.
MOST matters in life are not a matter of right and wrong beyond a personal opinion of such.
You think western games are trash. Others think there are good gems, or the market itself isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. Meanwhile I can bounce between playing stuff like Disgaea and Front Mission and modded Fallout and Doom with ease. There's nothing wrong with having any of those views until you start trying to force your opinion that one is objectively better than the other.
There are better ways to feel better about yourself than forcing your opinion on someone to convince yourself it's fact.
Jackson Murphy
>Nu-Doom is good >indies are all good
Neo-Sup Forums at its worst.
Cameron Cruz
I do agree some aspects of life are matter of opinion but not when it comes to some video games You can't be a serious person and enjoy overwatch. If I enjoyed overwatch I would know all the time I played the game is trash. There are games that you like but you know it's trash. If you ignore and insist some games are good just because you had fun with it then it's better to talk with a robot.
Noah Cruz
Oh great the Falcom shill again. Aren't you tired of shilling your garbage company you cherry picking piece of shit?
Ian Rogers
You can switch Falcom to Koei Tecmo and the point still valid. And I know they release 15 musous every year.
Grayson Nelson
Have you remembered to thank Falcom for giving birth to JRPGs, Sup Forums?
Samuel Bennett
I'm going to be honest.
I bought Trails in the Sky. You're making me regret that. You're this fucking petty because people like games you don't like and it makes it hard for me to not want to be petty back and get a fucking refund for it.
The bad thing is, I absolutely don't believe Falcom deserves to be an unsung hero. I just got done reading up on how Square Enix completely fucked up Front Mission when the director tried to get it out to an international audience for them to enjoy, even if it wasn't big. Half the games are completely playable in English outside of plot, and those are the ones that DIDN'T come over. Falcom does a lot, I respect them for putting their games on PC and wanting them in a good translated state as well.
Faggots like you genuinely give them a bad rap because you only hurt their reputation with your militant nonsense.
Ryder Phillips
IIRC the genre they invented was the ARPG.
Bentley Williams
Will they release LEgend of Heroes VII in the west?
Nathaniel Morris
>Faggots like you genuinely give them a bad rap because you only hurt their reputation with your militant nonsense. I'm not a falcom militant you retard brainlet Besides you ignored my comment saying that neutrals such as yourself are totally wrong because thinking both sides are correct is not being neutral it's just being retarded
James White
You're a fine example why the falcom fanbase is so obnoxious. You are the most close minded bastards I've ever seen ans I genuinely believe you never played another jrpg or other genre at that matter. Enjoy the series you love so much
John Torres
at this point surely they will (unless the sales for cold steel are atrocious)
Jonathan Myers
3/10 bait
Brandon Morgan
>ARPG Still a JRPG by being Japanese. Dragon Slayer was the first ARPG and JRPG, even though it was pretty rudimentary. youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9-xp8yc80
There isn't anyone that doubts Japan is the best at making video games. Even if you don't like anime games most of their other stuff is great. US could be like that too if they went back to how video games were when you didn't give a fuck about what the 5% of women that pretend to play video games said.
Asher Morales
What the fuck happened to Xanadu?
Kayden Scott
I think part of the problem is also that that the genres the west has excelled in barely exist anymore like RTS
William Collins
Yeah, worse, you make all Japanese game fanbases look bad with this nonsense.
I don't care what you do or don't like, I care that you're wasting posting space for a good thread full of people talking about good shit. I care that you're blatantly bumping it with dumb shit to keep it alive to keep arguing how you're superior for liking Japanese games and you're totally not looking down on anyone unless they don't think exactly the way you do.
You're a jackass, user. If this is your posting habit, then you've never posted anything of worth to anyone, never "won" any of these arguments beyond the one in your head. You've only turned people off of the games you've liked. And that makes you a cancer to gaming in your own right.
Have fun in your echochamber, plebeian.
Robert Ross
>Pathologic Slavs aren't western. Plus, how long has it been since this and Rimworld?
Anthony Martinez
women play LoL and Dota 2 because it's just clicking. If you watch an e-sport event it's always paid people marketing the game. Clean haircuts, tattoos, etc. They seriously make you believe if you play 14h LoL a day you'll earn 2 million dollars
Sebastian Scott
>Yeah, worse, you make all Japanese game fanbases look bad with this nonsense. If you are so worried about looking good and pleasing others go back to neogaf and stay there this time.
Ryan Perez
Falcom's drastically trying to modernize their franchises for a new audience since Falcom was pretty late to the mid-2010s anime trends and most of their existing fanbase are 25-40 year old men and not children.
Angel Cruz
This
Anthony Sanchez
There is literally nothing that stops you from getting into esports other than grinding and studying.
Nolan Sanders
>tried to like Western games >purchased a bunch of forgettable mainstream garbage for casuals
Your effort was poor and so your results were poor
John Edwards
yeah this doesn't apply to Japanese devs at all, there certainly rent any recurring gameplay or storytelling tropes that have been recurring for decades nope every single japanese game is 100% unique and mindblowing
Jason Perez
what do you want me to buy? Need for Speed? Halo? God of War? I already own a bunch of them.
Mason Jenkins
>not children Should have worded it better, Falcom's trying to aim for the modern 13-20 year old crowd, since most of their early 2010s games felt very 2000 with it's tropes. They're worried that not enough young people are buying their games anymore so that's why we've seen Trails become a lot more modern, Ys become a lot more modern, and the complete overhaul of Xanadu to be entirely modern.
Aaron Mitchell
This must be why every time I was in the vg LoL chat, every other person was challenger.
Except no they weren't they were mostly (90%) low elo and barely maintaned 50% winrates
Luis Rivera
Falcom survived from 1994 to 2006 selling cheap PC games with a good quality. Then they started to port and make for PSP and their popularity increased with the revival of Ys.
Lucas Taylor
I only want you to stop trolling but since I've replied like 3 times in this thread I have to admit that it's spicy bait.
Cooper Turner
>Slavs *Russians
Jayden Bell
But the thing was, most of Falcom's audience up until the mid-2010s were people in their mid-20s who played Falcom games in the early 2000s, or people in their 30s and 40s who played Falcom games throughout the 80s and 90s.
Not a lot of younger newcomers bought Falcom games in comparison to older fans until Trails, Ys and Xanadu got extremely modernized.
Julian Perez
Well only Trails and Xanadu are receiving modern paint Ys didn't change much except for the party system which some people hate
Gavin Rodriguez
Ys 8 feels a lot more modern with its tropes/archetypes than Ys 7. The reason Falcom's modernizing was because their core audience that's kept them afloat is starting to get older and buying their games less frequently, and they realized that they don't have a large younger audience to replace them.
Falcom were pretty late with the 2010s anime trends.
Josiah Powell
So old people stopped playing games :( Thankfully I'll be forever a Falcom neet
Elijah Gonzalez
>Around 10 years ago the US industry was dominating the market It still is to this fucking day. Literally all the top 10 most played games are western or US made.
Jack Adams
>Dragon Slayer was the first ARPG m8 that's either Dunjonquest or Catacomb.
Landon Lewis
I think you just proved the point of when you started with Undertale
Christian Sullivan
invisible inc is my waifu, is 10/10
Nathaniel Reed
why all indies look the same? this looks like Pyro
Ayden Butler
your dumb
Isaac Foster
>People prefer western desi-
Mason Cruz
I prefer the one of the left.
far far left of the image
Lucas Miller
i agree with everything you said but shovel knight. It is a well rounded game
Ian Miller
>And absolutely none of them featured a story that actually went somewhere or a villain that wasn't holding back. hahah a fucking story fag. everyone laugh at him.