VALVE BTFO FOREVER

gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-09-22-blizzard-knuckles-down-on-community-as-valve-fiddles

>Review bombs, for the uninitiated, are when a mob descends on Steam to leave a flood of poor reviews - often accompanied by a grossly offensive comment - on a game whose developer has done something to raise their hackles. The most recent example was the review-bombing of Firewatch after its developers demanded PewDiePie remove videos of the game following his latest racist "slip of the tongue", but dozens of developers have been targeted for this kind of treatment, often simply for the sin of being female or a minority, or for in some way otherwise upsetting the denizens of Reddit and Sup Forums.
>Ultimately, though, the work Blizzard is doing on Overwatch - and that other companies that genuinely care about this issue, such as League of Legends creator Riot, are doing on their games - is about people, not algorithms. Clever design and good code gets you so far in managing human behaviour
>Valve absolutely knows it could fix this issue with tighter rules, more human supervision and, yes, some better algorithms to report back to those supervisors; it just doesn't want to do that, because that's not its philosophy.
>Valve's critics don't pile on the company out of dislike, but out of disappointment at seeing such a vital part of the industry go to seed; if the company is really serious about fixing these issues, we'd suggest that a good first step would be to put down the graphs and see if maybe Blizzard is free for a chat on the phone.

Well?

>dozens of developers have been targeted for this kind of treatment, often simply for the sin of being female or a minority, or for in some way otherwise upsetting the denizens of Reddit and Sup Forums.
>often simply for the sin of being female or a minority

[citation needed]

WHAT A FUCKING

>often simply for the sin of being female or a minority
I feel like this shit wasn't as big a deal a decade ago, but race/gender differences are being egged on for some reason.

how long until valve start banning people that give negative reviews because they are "toxic"?
they certainly could get away with it

>>Ultimately, though, the work Blizzard is doing on Overwatch - and that other companies that genuinely care about this issue, such as League of Legends creator Riot, are doing on their games - is about people, not algorithms. Clever design and good code gets you so far in managing human behaviour

Blizzard doesn't even have a user game review system - what the fuck is this faggot talking about?

>people are allowed to leave the reviews they want
>this is bad

on steam its a good thing
do you even realize how few ways we have to even let them know we dont like what they are doing?

so this is the power of e-celebs...
Wow...
WHERE ARE THE VIDEO GAMES

I don't see threads coordinating review bombs, must be a reddit thing

This.

valve is doing things correctly. game junors are all such fucking cancer.

Should I make something to eat now or wait until later?

>for some reason

Do I really need to say it?

This.
It pisses me off when someone makes a shitty game, and when it gets the shitty reviews it deserves, the creator immediately latches onto sexism or racism instead of just admitting their game is terrible.

gaben is king

Their comparing the in-game blizzard reporting upgrades to valves review monitoring. Apples and oranges.

The problem is that Review bombing is sometimes a really good thing. Look at fallout 4 after the creation club fiasco. There are times in which the community needs a place to show their outrage when devolperers or publishers do something horrendous.

They stated that trying to fix/curate all the shit reviews is pointless because the games gravitate back to their original rating % over time anyway.
So they just made what's happening more easily visible instead.

Your rights end where my feelings begin, you fucking white male pedophile.

That doesn't even make any fucking sense then what the fuck

And then faggots on Sup Forums will pretend Gamergate wasn't in the right

NAGGER

There once was a man from Nantucket

Do it now, user, or else you'll just keep putting it off. You need to eat regularly to stay healthy, so take care of yourself!

What games other than maybe Depression Quest were flooded with bad reviews just because it was developed by a woman or a minority?

>so far in managing human behaviour

They arent even trying to hide it anymore.

Have you considered not doing things that will piss off large swaths of people if you don't want to get review bombed.

There's a reason that the CEO of ford doesn't go around weighing his opinion on every political matter, for example.

Fucking this. They just use that sexism/racism shit as an excuse!

can we have another video games market crash please?

>>Valve's critics don't pile on the company out of dislike, but out of disappointment at seeing such a vital part of the industry go to seed; if the company is really serious about fixing these issues, we'd suggest that a good first step would be to put down the graphs and see if maybe Blizzard is free for a chat on the phone.

Bunch of angry snowflakes and money hungry activists forgot to lube their arseholes when they went to read steam rewiews.


Sorry sweetie but Vavle respects freedom of speech!

>Clever design and good code
>riot
Excuse me?

>"professional" reviewers give misleading reviews because they are either paid by the developers or want to keep a good reputation in order to get future titles
>these same devolpers want people to moderate player reviews when they get too many negative responses
Really makes you think.

> listening to some washed up you tuber
> listening to some washed up you tuber that said "nigger" just so people would start talking about him again

Even if it's fucking true who cares? They are USER reviews. Not critic reviews. Not publisher reviews. Not advertisements. If a user wants that to be his review then that is what it should be. Otherwise don't even have user reviews.

>after its developers demanded PewDiePie remove videos of the game
What a way to spin abusing DMCA forms.

>"slip of the tongue"
Why is this in quotes?

im not autistic or gay enough to migrate to Blizzard. i'd rather hang myself

>They arent even trying to hide it anymore.
Yeah, because getting rid of screaming 15 years olds that chimp out and make a nuisance out of themselves is the same as brainwashing, right?

>it just doesn't want to do that, because that's not its philosophy.

NOOOOOOO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP THINKING DIFFERENTLY FROM WHAT I CONSIDER ORTHODOX

>trying to repress normal human behavior should be the job of the videogame industry

I'm so sick of this meme.
If Riot hadn't started this armchair psychology bullshit people wouldn't be such thin-skinned fragile snowflakes these days.

The hacker known as Sup Forums is notorious my friend, and he works in the shadows. He colluded with Russia to hack the election, makes images of the hate symbol known as Pepe the Frog, and harasses innocent female game developers. He is a menace that must be stopped at all costs.

Thanks mom!

review for new AC
>0/10
>WE

yep, this is exactly what the review system was intended for, and this is a valuable consideration that users should take before purchasing the game

This has to be some meta end game satire right? No one actually believes that Riot is a good game company right?

league and overwatch both have one thing in common

I don't play them
or spend money on them
if steam was to take the same steps those devs have to create a safe space I would stop playing
and paying

>muh harassments
>muh minorities
yawn

same old shit

>mfw I call people niggers, faggots, gaylords, gaywads, etc and even votekick bad players in Left 4 Dead 2
>I have never been banned

I laugh at anyone that has paid to cuck themselves when they get banned in Friday the 13th or Overwatch

They wouldn't do it. Valve at most would ban certain people from reviewing products or from reviewing and posting on the forums of particular products. Valve doesn't like doing complete permanent bans unless you're doing chargebacks and fucking with their money. They like having as many customers as they can. Most bans on Steam are being banned from one of thousands of forums or being VAC banned.

>say two letters
>HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP MINORITIES ARE UNDER ATTACK

I'm black, faggot. Now prep me an I might fuck your wife.

User reviews have become a threat to game devs and the journalists they collude with, expect more attacks

cool, you're just one out of millions literally nobody cares about what you do :)

more like SJW's btfo

>but dozens of developers have been targeted for this kind of treatment, often simply for the sin of being female or a minority
Yup, so many innocent souls were buried under merciless reviewbombing...

I wonder who behind that article

It took a while but Fallout 4 finally reached mixed reviews, how long until Todd kills himself?

>The most recent example was the review-bombing of Firewatch after its developers demanded PewDiePie remove videos of the game following his latest racist "slip of the tongue"

I love how they're rewording it as if the dev didn't do an undeserved DMCA because pdp hurt their feelings.

Holy shit thank god i have not played a single Blizzard game since. Cataclysm they are full of SJW.

If you're dumb enough not to recognize ebin memes reviews, ignore them and read a review that seems a bit more legit, then I don't know what to tell you.

Shitty reviews like this get rated low and rarely appear on the front page.
The reviews I normally see with 70+% ratings are long, well thought out reviews, with one or two joke reviews thrown in.
These articles forget that the reviews can also be rated on Steam.

>waa mommy people say mean thing in online game!
pathetic

>it just two letters, you dont KNOW that im some shitter from r_the donald that is having a tantrum because someone insulted BASED pewds!

Review for The Last Night
>0/10
>TRIGGERED SO HARD I'M LITERALLY SHAKING

It's OK when SJWs do it.

SJW losers are mad they have no authority at valve and can't game the system like they can in the journo clique and force companies to conform to their bullshit through shaming.

This is nothing more than a power play by the journos.

>NOOOO STOP YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE THOSE TWO LETTERS

What the fuck is he even saying

so which mod are you? I_AM_ABIB? ALTERNATIVE?

That's one hairy jew

Honestly wouldn't even care about the creation club if it didn't bloat Fallout 4 with all of the ba2 files of the mods in it and also didn't update the exe every time they throw some recolor schlop on it.

Pretty much this. All the SJW BS is mostly smokescreen, it's more about trying to silence user dissent, regardless of the reasons. Corporations hate this kind of critical freedom.

>often accompanied by a grossly offensive comment
>his latest racist "slip of the tongue"
>often simply for the sin of being female or a minority
Why are leftists completely incapable of writing objectively and without injecting their opinions?

I think the reason for the quotes there was to air quote sarcasm.

I'm a pretty average guy
if I'm thinking it I'm not the only one

league will continue on because it's free but steam will be fucked trying to get anybody to actually give them money and still put up with crap

>>Ultimately, though, the work Blizzard is doing on Overwatch - and that other companies that genuinely care about this issue, such as League of Legends creator Riot, are doing on their games - is about people, not algorithms. Clever design and good code gets you so far in managing human behaviour

Okay, I shouldn't even comment on this shitty journalism, but this actually pisses me off.

I've been playing TF2 for almost 10 fucking years and the absolute most "toxic" it got was kicking F2P's out of a server and some fucks spamming Mien Kampf quotes in chat. Other than that, TF2 is one of the most friendly games on the market right now. All it needed was a votekick system and the ability for adults to govern themselves and you have a community of caring, genuinely interesting people who care about the game.

Now, on the otherhand, Overwatch has been having problems with its fanbase since its launch. Despite the fact that the shiteaters at Blizz need to go out of their way to add wordfilters, the game is STILL filled with rude pieces of shit who yell at women for no reason, throw tempertantrums over people not picking the character THEY want, and piss their pants over people not being in their rank. Instead of these people making content FOR A GAME THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS CONTENT, the lazy cunts behind the game trying to find "cool" ways to get people to stop saying nigger in video games while blaming their own playerbase for not trying to make it better.

No, its not "Clever design and good code", if not making a game because you're getting to much report is clever than the YandereSim fucker must be the next Miyamoto. Nothing about not even having a report system on console is not clever or good coding, its laziness from a studio who only wanted to make a cashgrab instead of a game

right, but the people that make those comments should be warned and then banned upon doing the same shit. that being said review-bombing in general like with paid mods fiasco is alright, as long as youre not one of these 13 yos crying over pewdiepieso you admit its faggots being triggered? alright, then man up and tell valve all about how youre a crying bitch, and then thats actually a useful review to someone

You're such a fucking baby. Stop giving liberals a bad name.

>"This is the crux; the problem is not technological, it's philosophical. Valve clearly has a strong philosophy and political standpoint about how online services should work and about how the freedom of users (including users who haven't actually bought a game but still want to give it a 1-star review and call its creator a variety of colourful names) should be balanced against the protection of creators' livelihoods."

You can't give a steam review of a game without owning it in your library, can you?

e-celebs were a mistake. I just want to go back to pre-y2k online before all this retarded social networking shit and e-drama.

Don't act like Steam/Valve are heroes, they had to be dragged kicking and screaming into courts to add the refund system.

Anyone that implicitly trusts or likes a corporation is a faggot.

you are here 24/7 shilling and astroturfing for corporate control (let's plays are fair use, piracy, bans for toxicity etc)

and when the thread doesnt go your way you delete it. so which mod are you?

who dis

man what a fucking nigger

>Don't act like Steam/Valve are heroes
Oh, believe me, I'm not. Valve is one of the corporations I'm most easily butthurt by.

>Valve absolutely knows it could fix this issue
reviews are an issue?

>right, but the people that make those comments should be warned and then banned upon doing the same shit. that being said review-bombing in general like with paid mods fiasco is alright, as long as youre not one of these 13 yos crying over pewdiepie

>thinking corporations will ever respect the distinction between genuine grievances over anti-consumerist practices and meme shitposting

wrongthink is wrongthink

While I don't particularly care about PDP or this whole thing in general, it's pretty funny how this manufactured "controversy" has basically achieved nothing. The vast majority of his fans are kids who wisely don't give a shit about politics and the advertisers will be back when the storm passes. In fact as far as I'm aware he could keep doing what he's doing without them, isn't he made for life like a thousand times over already?

What a bunch of stupid fags
I am pretty happy with they way Valve has done this

They respect the reaction the community has over the products, so they let the community do whatever they want

They give you the tools to know when this happens (there is a disclaimer when a review bomb happens), but they let you read everything

why? BECAUSE THE REVIEW BOMBING HAPPENS FOR A REASON

Sauce me user

No

>protection of the creators' livelihoods
Does it really say this? Why should we protect their livelihoods? If they're shit at their job and can't make a good game, let them burn.

GIVE ME SOME OF THESE FUCKIN KIKE ALGORYTHMS RIOT

>shit on your consumer or your consumers interest
>get shit on in return

This pattern works in reverse too where people will support an upcoming small studio that tries hard and likes its audience too.

I think companies are still pissed that their consumers now have a voice and adverts can no longer make people believe lead in paint is a good thing or they can get called out when we find out they support something we hate. Imagine if the internet was around years ago Kelloggs may not have convinced people to chop off dicks.

Its too bad the MOBA market is basically full of addicts stuck to the one game they play. I feel like a post-apocalyptic MOBA called "Toxic" or "Toxicity", with like the Fallout green puddles of radioactive goo, and no chat moderation whatsoever outside of muting would be a cool concept. Steal the defunct 'prefer/avoid' function from Overwatch, but make avoiding someone prefer to matchmake that person AGAINST you instead of avoiding them entirely. So you'd only use it on baddies so you wouldn't get teamed with them.

Could be neat. Not a MOBA guy though.

I think the idea is that if you centralize all servers under the developer he's also now responsible for punishment and controlling people's behavior since the community can't self-regulate anymore.
So all that's left is pissing and crying at the dev to punish people that hurt their fee fees and the devs ineffectually trying to deal with offenders on a large scale and rarely punishing single persons.

Shit sucks.

Ai Shinozaki

Also
The steam forums aren't Sup Forums. You can't just shitpost endlessly, you will get banned.

>200$ sent to your paypal
nice!

Did this guy seriously just praise Riot's Tribunal system? It's fucking terrible. Easily one of the worst things to ever come out of that trash-heap.

(cont) review bombing is not an issue
IT IS A REALITY, and it happens because people are not happy

here, take a look at this beauty. I find pretty honest that there was a review bomb when pubg announced further jewing, instead of patches

it is not an issue: it is people saying their opinion
fuck you, journos

Reviews are stupid, just buy the game and if you don't like it after an hour refund it.

Also diamonds wouldn't be worth shit

(notice how stupid shit like this is spread only by Americans?)

>are you swedish
That's harsh.

who is this donald bogeyman i keep hearing so much about
does it have something to do with smelly niggers?