>there are people on Sup Forums RIGHT NOW that think FFXV's extra updates and DLC will make the game any better
Why? The DLC episodes so far have added zero depth to the story or to the characters, and nobody wanted or needed the Comrades Multiplayer and the Assassin's Creed event. No amount of updates containing 12 gb worth of cutscenes is going to fix the script, never mind this game's other problems.
is this the consequence of screeching about a game taking too long?
Jose Myers
People who bought this game day 1 full price must feel so disrespected it's insane
John Evans
I just want the fucking hard mode, there's no fixing the story The multiple hunts is a welcomed addition tho
Nathaniel Miller
LET'S GET THIS SHIT STARTED
13 > 15
Daniel Sanders
Shit = Shit
They're both unforgivable trash, quit trying to pretend retroactively like XIII was worth anything.
Landon White
I'd feel more disrespected if they didn't bother their asses.
Austin Fisher
Did they fix/add anything good in this whole time? I just remember them doing shit nobody asked for like offroad driving with a monstertruck.
Christian Johnson
I only bought the game months after release, thinking I had outsmarted preorder and day 1 fags.
If only I knew...
Alexander Brooks
It wouldn't have taken so long if they hadn't completely trashed what Nomura already made and tried to build something from the ground up. Around 2014 or so there was an article reporting that the game was allegedly "basically finished."
Camden Fisher
13 has good combat which is enough for me to tolerate everything else about it.
Gabriel Hall
>game is released unfinished >FUCKING SQUARE-ENIX
>they're actually trying to finish it post-release >FUCKING SQUARE-ENIX
Cancerous cunts.
Kayden Sanders
Waiting for FF XV Complete Edition Remastered for PS5 Pro at 60 fps
James Walker
>The DLC episodes so far have added zero depth to the story or to the characters
this, hopefully Tabata is really working on a Ardyn Prequel and not another DLC. ARE YOU LISTENING SQUARE VIRAL MARKETEERS ?
Cooper Cook
That's cause Nomura had no fucking idea what he wanted to do with it. At one point he wanted to make a musical. Nomura is an ass director and Kingdom Hearts is proof of it.
Kevin Bailey
What do you feel like you don't know about ardyn?
Brayden Gonzalez
>Mash X and the game plays itself >Occasionally switch Paradigms >Good
Honestly FFXIII looked great, but didn't play too well.
Nicholas Martin
>they're actually trying to finish it post-release Do they tho? Im seriously asking.
Ian Jackson
But that dosn't happen till like 20+ hours in to the game when you're given enough mechanics to play with in combat to have it be more then just spamming shit. I'm not going to say it didn't get betting half way thru for the combat, but why the fuck wasn't it like that from the get go? And with the story being such a slog, who wants to get that far anyways.
XIII was the game that ruined JRPGs for me, I have a hard time picking up any since :/
Andrew Fisher
Believe me, my brother got him and myself a copy each one day one alongside the season pass for himself (which I would get for myself shortly into the game before the monotony settled in), and I even installed both of our copies to our respective PS4s.
He didn't even get halfway through the game, and i've beaten just about everything in it and still loathe it. I feel bad for his wallet back in November, and for the $25 I wasted on a season pass of shit.
Robert Walker
This game is worse than 13 Why even have a thread about it, nobody likes it
Adrian Morales
>finish it I don't think you understand. The very design of XV's story and gameplay is bare-bones as fuck. For FFXV to be "finished," these elements would need to be completely reinvented.
Michael Robinson
>I just remember them doing shit nobody asked for like offroad driving Pretty much everyone asked for that though Bunch of minor shit added here and there, monster wristle, being able to walk on the stone archways, a playable Gladio bit outside of his DLC, a monsterpedia and being able to select more than one hunt is coming
Luis Gonzalez
Well, yeah. They're adding missing cutscenes and the direct has stated they'll take either part of or all of next year(He was unclear) to add in things players thought was missing, while also working on a next-gen title.
Jackson Carter
I wish I could unbuy this game.
Chase Bailey
Yeah I dunno, the game isn't fun until you get 3 party members, but I'm a fairly patient guy.
Playing ff13 optimally takes more effort than any other game in the series. It's a lot of fun if you actually shoot for 5 stars and do post game stuff. The mash X thing applies to nearly every FF for the record.
Grayson Smith
Nobody knows what SE is even doing at this point
Jace Flores
Why is it so difficult to just fucking make a simple turn based JRPG for these retards
Gabriel Sanchez
They're clearly going full steam ahead with "games as a service".
Joshua Ward
I feel like I wasted my money realizing now that I'll probably just have to buy the game again later when they release the 'complete edition'. I'd actually like to play the full game, but on the other hand, don't want to give them money and make them think it's okay to pull this kind of bullshit again in the future.
Andrew Brooks
>versuscucks, khcucks, turn-basedcucks, xiiicucks and xivcucks all crying about FFXV >XVchads get another year of updates
Feels good being superior. Now if only we didn't have to deal with fucking bazztek
Liam Harris
>missing cutscenes The last one I saw was the Ravus one and it was pointless shit. I doubt adding a bunch of cutscenes aren't going to fix this.
Doing what Nier Automata did and making little post-game novels would make more sense. Well, probably not, since N:A actually has a full story.
Jeremiah Moore
>forced to take on Nomura's failed pet project >ask for more time to get this shit pile of tech demos and story boards in order >told by higher up to fuck off and release the game >forced to release an unfinished game >continues to work on the game even after release >gets treated like shit while Nomura is basically treated like gold
Cooper Gonzalez
And how many of these updates are they going to expect people to keep paying for?
Xavier Morales
FF died with 9 I cant believe anyone would buy 15 You got what you derserved
Landon Clark
CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP
Landon Sanchez
I bought day one and had my fun, I also got the season pass so all the content that already came out + ignis is mine.
I think the difference is I'm a gameplay over story guy. I had more fun dicking around exploring and monster hunting than watching the story unravel and that goes for almost all vidya save for xenogears and a handful of others.
The new updates is more content which I always welcome specially with the rad PC version on the way.
Isaiah Thompson
>What do you feel like you don't know about ardyn?
don't patronize me
Isaiah Perez
Except for what was part of the season pass, all the updates have been free, so what the fuck are you talking about?
Daniel Carter
It's probably going to be at least another year before I can buy a "Complete Edition" on sale isn't it? Oh well, I've already waited this long.
Lucas Gomez
But the gameplay was awful.
Adam Miller
I'd rather have them try to make a new game than have them attempt to salvage the mess that is XV.
William Howard
>FF died with 9 7 is unironically the last one I enjoyed. And yes the first one I played was 1, not 7. Don't think I need to say why 8 didn't jive. 9 was okay, but the cardboard characters (looking at you """Dagger"""), and aganizingly long battles due to needing to steam so much of the assets off of the disk on the fty. That said, it is a really pretty game. By the time 10 hit, the game was full on on rails, and I just stopped caring for the series.
Carson Allen
The gameplay was even worse than the awful story.
Luke Collins
>this is what Tabatafags actually believe You should try actually reading the guy's interviews. What a pompous fuck.
>I'm a gameplay over story guy But the gameplay was shit is what I'm saying. I see where you're coming from though. Maybe I'd be more sympathetic if it was more like KH, or if they actually went through with what they had in the Duscae demo.
The game actually wasn't bad until the Titan boss fight.
Zachary Rivera
did you play12 ? ( i already admit, i'm a sucker for everything ivalice themed)
Juan Taylor
>the only thing I wish they could do it's fix the frame pacing on PS4 >they will never do it.
Leo Powell
If they just ported Kingdom Heart's combat to XV, even something like 1's combat, I feel like I would have found XV to be at least decent.
Jayden Peterson
buy it now. seriously. waiting for a complete edition is a bit of a meme. due to the nature of the game it is pointless to add anything. the DLC have all been a waste. it's a fine game for what it is, bought it day one, playing it still for the timed events (~140 hours). you will only really understand once you play it but just trust me there is no reason to wait.
Jace Miller
FFXV is the only Final Fantasy game I've played.
Dylan Howard
Why don't they make a Classic Final Fantasy game, with a medieval setting, turn combat, a good story, pretty girls, etc?
Landon Gutierrez
I don't understand how some of you are still playing XV almost a year later. I finished it in a month and quit forever.
I've been too busy playing other (actually good) games to bother with the MMO content.
Benjamin Peterson
Because all the people able to make such a thing already left
Joshua Nguyen
I've actually had fun with the gameplay of all mainline FF except 2 post intro. This game had an interesting action based combat that integrated the super flashy presentation FF games have but gave you more direct control of your character and it worked out well. My only issue is the magic system being so monster hunter bomb tier and lack of 60 fps(i.e consoles).
If you don't like the action gameplay because it's not DMC or because it's not turn based then that's fine because it's your opinion but the combat system worked well and had a degree of polish. Either way I don't think the combat is what was considered broken about the game and plenty of people had fun with it.
Christopher Smith
What'd you think of it?
Although it's not like they're connected or anything.
Carson Reyes
I did Fucking love the setting. Gameplay was fun. Its a love/hate game for me though since it is so plainly obvious that its unfinished and the story will never be fleshed out like it could have been. It was worth a playthru I suppose
Leo Taylor
Is XV the first Early Access Final Fantasy game?
Bentley Cooper
Octopath Traveler has promise.
Aaron Myers
No, that'd be FF 4.0.
Lucas Evans
I'm being genuine. I thought his generic jesus esque backstory was plenty.
Tyler Cook
It's pretty good. The graphics are incredible. The gameplay is... interesting. I dont know if I like it or hate it. it's weird. The music is good. The story is cheesy and overdramatized but that's OK cause it's a JRPG and about what you would expect, so on the whole it's pretty enjoyable.
Grayson Lee
>>If you don't like the action gameplay because it's not DM I don't like the gameplay because it's strictly worse than other action RPGs square has put out.
Hunter King
i havent been in xv threads for a while
is xv-kun still raging out as usual
Jack Hall
Octopath Traveler will be coming out next year. It's not an FF but it's the closest we'll get to the classics. I was pretty much sold after playing the demo.
Also, try Bravely Default.
Ayden Murphy
I agree. I had fun fucking around and camping, I didn't mind that it felt like the story was happening offscreen.
Liam Phillips
He's been screenshotting these threads and yelling at them on twitter. Guess he finally ran out of proxies.
Luis King
>I don't understand how some of you are still playing XV almost a year later. >playing it still for the timed events
and the absolute best velvet smooth and most ultimately satisfying battle system ever, I wish I was shilling but it gets so fucking good once you start playing good, it's not even deep or anything, it just feels and looks so GOOD
Joshua Lewis
Are you so angry you didn't like a video game everyone else liked that you'd go out of your way to whinge about it on a garbage game forum? Why don't we discuss your problems instead of fight like this?
Justin Watson
I take it you either legitimately didn't enjoy the game or are giving into peer pressure and just saying you don't like it because it makes you look cool.
However, judging by the fact that you type unfounded assumptions about our experiences with it, I can ascertain you probably fall into the latter category.
Ian Martin
Unpopular opinion:
I really enjoyed the game. And while you guys scream and rage and bitch and moan, I'm here playing through it for my second time, thoroughly enjoying the story, the characters, the gameplay, and the soundtrack.
Jason Reed
>most ultimately satisfying battle system ever Yeah, I really encourage you to try and play more video games.
David Turner
I think if they just had better loot or a better sense of character progression it would have been ok, maybe comrades can fix this. The game just boils down to do all these shitty hunts and quests and get exp and some crappy items.
Ian Nelson
>your personal taste is wrong not that guy but holy shit you're retarded
Jaxon Howard
I was pleasantly surprised when the Comrades expansion beta turned out to be a Monster Hunter style multiplayer game. I'm fucking pumped for it.
Owen Brooks
Comrades is practically a separate entity. You're literally making your own characters.
I heard that they did fix the magic though, at the very least.
Ian Howard
he played a DOS game once and thinks hes an expert on video games now. what a hero.
Aiden Peterson
I liked KH 1 and 2 but I like that FFXV had a more RPG like feeling with different weapon types/fighting styles, different armors with various stats, a talent/skill tree, larger party and more control over all of those things for your party members.
Joshua Gomez
He can have his personal tastes, but could be a lot more refined if he played more vidya. Nothing wrong with branching out, and I don't care if you liked the game, but if you think FFXV is even the epitome of what JRPGs have to offer you really should work on expanding your horizons.
Easton Campbell
>I take it you either legitimately didn't enjoy the game or are giving into peer pressure and just saying you don't like it because it makes you look cool. >However, judging by the fact that you type unfounded assumptions about our experiences with it, I can ascertain you probably fall into the latter category. I don't even know what to answer to someone that adresses other people like a condescending dick. But i'll tell you, i don't like the game and it's my own opinion, it's a butchered waste of potential, it's an already dead patient who's only maintained in life by a fucking machine and some people just want for the patient to embrace the sweet release of death and not see him suffer anymore.
Angel Allen
Finally, someone here who accepts the fact that FF XIII and FF XV are gutter trash.
Luis Rivera
>I heard that they did fix the magic
pls
Oliver Kelly
I just want them to move on. I liked the game for what it was, I really did, but they really need to let it go. In retrospect so much of the game felt unfinished or rushed that it feels like the game would need a complete overhaul to make it good. The updates so far have been slow and quite meaningless. I should feel happy that they want to fix XV, but I just don't see it getting much better than it already is. I feel like resources would be better used to finishing FF7R or just toward XVI.
William Parker
It's been a long ass time since I played KH, but didn't it already have all of this? I know each game has different stuff in them like the skill tree but idk which.
Liam Bennett
Nah, kh has accessories and just the keyblade.
Grayson Gray
>Literally a single player mmo
Wyatt Miller
>Oh well, I've already waited this long. lol baka. the game is worth for 2 things: the kinda interesting warp based battle system and the most ridiculously epic ending in the history of epicness, I'm sure the Abrahamic God himself reserved "Apocalipsis Noctis" for the end of the world itself. 190% feels, 235%bro power, 452% redemption, 666% bad guy wins, 1000% manliest tears, ???% son I am pride
Could you customize an accessory for donald and pluto?
Connor Peterson
I's my fave song but there were so many good ones in that soundtrack.
Adam Rogers
You could equip them IIRC. but just the same shit you use.
Gavin Hernandez
apocalypsis noctis isn't even one of the top 10 songs in the game you fucking nerd
Chase Flores
>square enix is wasting valuable staff on this game still and still will be next year >all whilst they have kh3 and ff7r in development What the fuck.
Leo Miller
>valuable staff maybe their graphic designers.
anyone in charge or the writing or the combat should be chained to this piece of shit just to keep em out of the way.
Carter Stewart
They can't move onto 16 because they are literally lost on what to do, this is why XV is just one big experiment. It'd be nice if we could just get an old school type of FF with the overworld and all that but with better graphics that's all, it'd look weird kind of but it might be nice.
Jacob Evans
I haven't seen him in awhile. Is he kill?
Evan Phillips
see
Liam Price
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Carson Cook
I prefer this to the garbage XIII sequels we got.
Mason Thompson
Wow. He should really see a doctor.
Henry Powell
They should just make 15-2. Takes place after the main game with you clearing up the last of the demon infestation and helping get the world back on track. Appearances by all the 15 characters who are still alive. Keep in the basic ideas 15 had, like action combat, camping and driving, but improve them. Off world driving from the start with multiple vehicle options, combat that isn't just holding down a button etc.