Which one do you take?

Which one do you take?

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Knife has higher average dmg.

knife because i'm not a faggot

Knife in right hand, brass knuckles on left hand.

But not by much. Higher min dmg has value too.

Knuckles, same reason I never touched warhammers in Morrowind and why they were total cancer to fight against.
>fight some cunt with a warhammer
>just taking hits to the chest as a mage and laughing about it
>he suddenly gets lucky and chunks off 70% of my health
>which obviously knocks me down
>gets lucky again before I can stand up and I die

fucking weeaboo

It's 11.5 vs. 9 average damage

These things are pointles without context.

If the enemies you are fighting have 6 or less hit points the knuckles for instance will be strictly better. If they have hundreds of hit points the knife ends up being better.

10.5* I can't math

Knife and I boost my luck like fuggg

The entire point of these threads is they lack context, that's why there's discussion value

*does 1 damage*

the knucks are less random so i'd probably go for those, more RNG = less control

knife

Depends on the mood, it's not like games are that hard these days that you have to minmax everything.

ok i mean in a realistic scenario, How can a knife fully utilize and put out a minimum of one damage?

While a brass knuckle does a minimum of 6.

Like did the knife just graze the guy? i mean if thats the case you could say the same for the knuckles

Legit question btw

>not dual wield both and punch and slash your way into a SSStylish combo

Don't think too hard into these scenarios user

Brass knuckles because their reliability allows for skillful play, while knife depends on lucky rolls to deal high damage

a knife
it has a longer range and can serve as an utility tool

>that's why there's discussion potential, and why the discussion is ultimately useless
ftfy

You can always throw the knife for a guaranteed crit.

I...I cant help it user. My inner /k/ haunts my thoughts. Its a curse i admit.

knight because without diminishing returns 90% dodge chance is fucking rediculous

Always the knife

I just love bladed weapons in general. I never use non of them maces, flails, halbers or stupid shit like that in general

>mfw darksouls zweihander

The enemy is resistant to slash damage but takes blunt damage normal.

Both of them because love can bloom even on a battlefield

That 90% chance to dodge is pretty good.

Brass knuckles, because I've arbitrarily decided this game has a max hp of 6, and no damage mitigation, which means it is always a guaranteed one-hit kill.

if stats had problems like this maybe i would have stayed in school

Why not both?

depends on my attack speed senpai

...

the brass knuckles cause punching in games is fun as af and should be more common

Knife. It has a higher average damage as well as more range.

>90% dodge
Knight is fuckin OP

Brass knuckles only an idiot would say otherwise

Oh shit someone did a simulation of this but instead of a dragon it was a werewolf.

>knife
>20 damage
>land crit
>redead reflects

Well Sup Forums, which weapon do you take?

You fell down because blunt weapons eat your fatigue

t. guy who actually played Morrowind

either way you probably kill the enemy way before it can kill you
buff its damage

RTS situation:
You have 1000 resources, enemy is at your base, filled with twenty 10 damage, 10 health infantry squads that would probably destroy your base in 30 secs Do you:
A) Spring for 10 standard infantry squads that have:
>20 damage
>10 health
>Takes 2 secs to train

or

B) One special infantry squad that has
>45 damage
>75 health
>Takes 15 secs to train

cute shopkeeper when

Blade

Dragon essentially has a 2.5% chance to kill instantly (do 300 damage, essentially) and a 7.5% chance to do 90 damage, an average dmg/round of 14.25, or average of 21.1 rounds to kill

Knight has a 33% chance to do 180 damage and a 67% chance to do 20 damage, an average of 72.8 dmg/round, or 20.6 rounds to kill.

Realistically the fight will basically come down to if the dragon's insta-kill procs before the knight's average kill time of 20.6 turns, the probability of which is is 1 - (.975^20.6), or 40.63%. So the knight basically has a 60/40 chance of winning.

What about now?

Knife unless the Brass Knuckles have a higher attack speed.

I hate this

Yeah, that guy is fucking dead.

>that nerf

Option A) Can attack 10x for 10 damage each

Option B) Can attack 1x for 100 damage

Average enemy has 50-100 health

Bosses have 1000 HP

throw away both of them and use my fists

Dark souls caestus runs were fun as fuck

>10% chance to hit
guy wins

For those that can't do simple math it's a 2.5% chance for the human to instantly die whenever dragon attacks.

Is there any miss chance?

youtube.com/watch?v=IpCiczKfVwk

>enemie's armor subtracts 5 from your attack
>roll 6 with knuckles, deal 1 damage
>roll 1 with knife, deal 1 damage since every game ever lets you deal at least 1 damage

>have a chance to 1 shot enemies with 20 hp

>higher average damage

I'll take the nukkies.

The sooner I shave health off them, the less damage they can deal to my base, so I increase longevity. 20 damage vs 45 damage doesn't matter since each squad has 10 health. And the sooner I have people dealing with them the sooner they have to split focus. All signs point to standard units.

I choose bayonet.

Knife for PVP Brass Knuckles for PVE

Not worth it. Duel wielding is only effective for having two of either. Their attack animations don't flow into each other so having one of each cuts down your attack speed.
There IS an exploit to have both in the same hand and if you can hit drop weapon at just the right moments after attacking with the knife you can get a quick double attack, but this only help against enemies you can 2-shot.

Yeah it was this one

Option A) Accuracy of 85% / 10 swings in 10 seconds

Option B) Accuracy of 66% / 1 swing in 10 seconds

If a knife just barely hits it can do a little scratch, but if the knuckles just barley hit it's considered a miss because it won't have the force to do damage.

Damage in Morrowind isn't random though, retard. You deal minimum damage when you click the button and you deal more damage the longer the button is held, maxing out at the maximum weapon damage range.
So if you tap the attack button with a warhammer, you deal 1 damage. If you hold it down fully, you deal 80 damage (assuming it's a Daedric warhammer). That is of course not counting other damage bonuses like strength and such.

>peasant does NO DAMAGE
werewolf

Yeah sorry, it was pretty imbalanced in spear's favor, so I patched it.

blunt damage is universal, slash damage can be resisted

You could easily say that a minor cut with a knife would be the "1 damage" result, while you would need to connect with some force to meaningfully do anything with the brass knuckles. That's why the knuckles deal 6 damage minimum. However, in that situation, the brass knuckles should have a lower accuracy to represent that, since the graze of the knife doesn't need to have the full force behind it for the minor cut.

Brass knuckles, because both do the same damage (10 average on both, 10% 2x crit adds 1 average damage, 5% 3x crit adds one average damage) but brass knuckles both give you more health overall and completely eliminate the probability of a max damage range crit insta-killing you.

>spear
>flimsy
swordfags shouldn't mspaint weapons

Knight will kill in an average of 45 attacks.
Dragon will kill in an average of 40.

Knight die first 2 hits.

Knifegun.

knife, then I save before every attack and reload all that are

how about I rock your shit live in the wildy

>reloads save
>"nothing personell kid"
>misses attack
>reload save
>"nothing personell kid"
>miss attack
>reload save
>"nothing personell kid"
>miss attack
>reload save
>"nothing personell kid"
>misses attack
>quits game

Choose your character

>picking anything but anger demon

yes they were

GUARD meta.

Having double the weapons doubles the power.

>Anger
>5 ATK, hits enemy ATK for damage
>Tree
>5 ATK, 5 DEF, but only 1 DEF against Anger
>Fast
>5 ATK, 1 SPD, 1 DEF, also only 1 DEF against Anger
>Balance
>7 ATK, 7 DEF, 1.3 SPD, effective 7 DEF against Anger
So how is Balance not the most obviously broken option there? Hell, it even has more effective Speed than the Fast Demon, since Fast uses its 1 ATK to determine its speed.

There's a reason nobody played fucking lightning sorceress in Diablo 2

Balance is unbalanced.

>+7 trickypoints

OP as fuck

do I get a big dick as anger demon

I'd like to see how the other side lives

>612 VS 120 dmg

Wow really hard choice

>people getting butthurt over this obviously joke image

Whoops fixed

Expansion pack

Normie OUT
I bet you are an axefag

I'd probably take the knuckles for the higher min damage that way even if it's a shit hit at least the worst it could do is 6 damage.

Gun

Now balance is worse than all the others.

no it's balanced

Nope
spearfag