So we've come to a consensus, right?

So we've come to a consensus, right?

Dota is more mechanically engaging and complex but LoL is more fun

FPBP

Micromanaging vs Macromanaging and straight to the point

they are both ass. mobas suck

>4 stupid skills per hero
>105+ heros
absolute shit WEAK SHALLOW gameplay masked by artifical complexity, LOSER community, and FAGGOT streamers
complete this TRIFECTA of GAY

So DotA 2 it is then?

Old gaylord yells at video games

moba is a trash genre so you might as play it with the littlest investment as possible with shorter games and more than 1 fucking map for every game

aka HOTS

Yes.

the hardest thing a "girl gamer" can ever be able to play

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>A lite version of LoL, which is already a lite version of Dota 2, is on a higher position
How many hookers and blow did Metzen and Chillton throw their way

Nice meme. These games are only as hard as the people you're playing against. Saying one is harder than the other is just retarded.

Half of Sup Forums would never get past top 10% on either.

Anyone who says this is a retard that sucks cock at moba games.

hots gets straight to the point of moba which is team fighting.

dota you must manage cs, waves, creep pulling, wards, item build, gank\counter-gank to even get to a position of team fighting, which if you didn't match the other team in all of those (I.e you got a bad item build, didn't ward and so got ganked and on top of that have bad cs) you won't be able to team fight very well.

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>These games are only as hard as the people you're playing against
Meepo, Chen, Visage, and Invoker will always be more complex, having a more skilled player just compounds on to it

I believed the same thing but that's not the case.

LoL and DotA are basically the same game. DotA is unpleasantly longer. And you only have some cheap ass leveling system and items. That's the fathest extent of DotA in terms of making your champion unique.

With LoL you got your Runes and Masteries system. At least with that, I can make a champ play another role if I really wanted to.

Also, League requires more skil because it requires a lot more skill shot heavy approach.

DotA 2 is just one big outdated moba for grandpas who think that it's somehow "deep and complex" which really isn't. It's just slower paced. League is where the real people with skill are at.

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>hots gets straight to the point of moba which is team fighting.

There's no customizations or item planning at all. You literally spam fucking abilities and cross your fingers hopefuly you'll win. It's fucking boring.

dota > lol

t. friend that got left behind

Dota 2 is objectively superior as a game in every regard. You can prefer LoL though, there's nothing wrong with that.

Confrimed for never playing league.

It's mechanics are so much faster and smoother.

I played riven at diamond level in league of legends and it was 10x more mechanically complex than anything dota ever offered.

>diamond level in league of legends
So what, 3.1k in DotA 2?

>Reddit spacing
>Defends LoL
Every time.

actually it's funnyjunk spacing :)

search your heart, you know mobas being trash to be true. i have 4k hours and was 1 win away from 4k and quit cold turkey because i realized how shit it was

DOTA is for autists.
LOL is for casuals.

>Anything that requires effort is akin to autism
>Anything that garners a large crowd is due to casual-pandering

>At least with that, I can make a champ play another role if I really wanted to get reported and banned for not meta

Fixed

They can report you all they want but you won't get banned for it.

I personally prefer LoL but I recognize Dota as the more complex game

All I can say about Dota vs LoL is I've met a ton of people who played LoL and switched to Dota but I've NEVER met a person who played Dota but switched to LoL.

The whole concept of putting 5 random people on your team and making them work towards an objective is trash because not everyone is on the same page.

Its easier to put 100 people to fight each other on a map than it is to put 5 monkeys on a map working towards destroying the enemy base.

If LoL didn't have character unlocks and the shitty forced lane meta it'd be the better game overall

But in general, LoL if you want a snappy action game that plays like an arms race tug of war and Dota if you want a satisfying strategy game

I made it to 6.5k but quit because I realized every match was the same which made it boring.

I don't mean gameplay wise, just people in general were constantly the same which was boring, you could always predict the rager, the enemy that would attempt to get a 5 man gank on you because you hurt his feelings by ruining him in lane, all that shit.

What I wanted most after 4k hours was mental maturity and literally no matches had people with any so I just quit.

>hots gets straight to the point of moba which is team fighting.

That was BLC/Battlerite's shtick. A shame the devs are retarded.

are you that guy who wants to fuck kled

>hots gets straight to the point of moba which is team fighting.
No, that isn't the sole point of the genre.

See

every thread on this board is fucking terrible

The more people your thread interests the more likely it is to survive, so only lowest common denominator topics survive

C'est la Sup Forums

yeah they both suck.

i find it hilarious that league of niggers is losing to PUBG.

>play dota 2
>get stuck with people who don't even speak american
>they're just yelling at each other on the mics with music blasting in the background
>playerbase is literally the worst thing since sliced bread because Valve has an automated report system

no seriously fuck this game

>he doesn't have friends

hahaha

It's true. Dota is nothing but a pit of despair and faggots

Back when I played for some reason my friends all decided party ranked was the only way to play dota so I could never queue with them due to being 6k while they were all 3.

>Dota and League
>One is literally LITERALLY just a copied and dumbed down version of the other to appeal to casual masses, including locking content behind a paywall/shitty points that require an ungodly amount of time to collext

>There are actually posters on Sup Forums defending it

If you prefer League over Dota you are the cancer killing this board. How do you even argue against this shit. At least Heroes of the Storm just straight up says they purposefully removed all the complex shit so you can fuck around for fun instead of worrying about strategy. League actively flaunts itself as an Esport.

they are both dying and i can't wait for it. i played one of them a lot but i won't say which one. The point is that they are both cancer. Your entire experience can be decided by one retard that decides to troll, feed or afk, or whatever. Completed with the system that tries to make you have 50% win rate gave me some of the most cancerous moments in gaming. You need to put in at least 1000 hours of gameplay into either one to become remotely good at them and the entry bar is constantly increasing with both of them nearing the 150 character pool.

It was cool when they were released and were something new and exciting but now I don't see why any kid would want to subject itself to the cancerous communities both of them have.

Do league of legends players really believe this?
We have your devs on the record saying healing and stealth is anti-fun.

And you saying that game is more complex, and requires more skill with your same item build in every game on every role you play right?

Pretty sure with all that superior gameplay LCS is knocking out million dollar grand prizes right?

I have NEVER gotten stuck in low priority for reports. You must be a real shitter if you get dumped there.

massive waste of time vs massive waste of time to grind to unlock ranked and buy characters

but user, stealth is anti-fun, its actualy cancerous

Reminder that DOTA is superior due to the existence of certain heroes including pick related

2/10

3/10

huh, that's true
I tried LOL after many years of Dota and just seemed so empty and boring, I couldn't play it for more then a few hours... Meh, I only tried, because somehow, I've never met a girl, who played Dota but a shitload who played LOL, but, let me tell ye, no girl is worth playing that garbage, amiright?! :3

do they hide behind trees in dota like they hide in the grass in LoL?

>PC "gaming"

That mobas are universally shit, yes

HoTS is genuine garbage though in every aspect, the lack of items kill it completely it all comes down to who has the better team comp for the map you get the game has as much depth as a dice roll

0/10

Lawful neutral here.

Unironically kill yourself

I'm sorry that your shitty bait isn't getting any (you)s user

I stopped Dota 2 a few hours short of 1000h and I will never touch it again, I feel like I lost a few years lifetime, definitly the most cancerous game IMO

>With LoL you got your Runes and Masteries system. At least with that, I can make a champ play another role if I really wanted to.
Have you ever played Dota, im guessing not?
Many heroes have been able to fit multiple rolls, including in the pro scene e.g. Naga Siren

chaotic neutral because I have no idea what happened to my bread box when I moved and I've been to lazy to go get a new one

I don't know how a game that is so similar can be so different.

I'm gold, pushing plat on League. I tried out Dota2 because I was being pestered to play with some friends and I couldn't even pass the tutorial, no joke. I just kept dying to the fucking bots. Any of you guys can explain this, other than me being retarded.

ooo nice bait

Positioning is a lot more important than in LoL because there's a ton of shit or combos that can damn near insta kill you. Furthermore there's man ways to influence positioning from blink daggers to Pudge's hook.

git gud

everyone i know who played LoL before dota quit because they were shit, and "it was too hard"

but they don't realize the only reason they have so much skill in LoL was from playing so much you got used to what every champion could do, and could react based on seeing what skills enemies use, knowing the range of skills, how to avoid things etc

i recently had a friend start playing dota and he loves supporting as Winter Wyvern, and he plays random too for bonus gold and to learn heroes. he has barely played league since

You must erase all notions of LoL out of your mind once you do that then you will be ready for Dota.

What many LoL players do is they come in thinking its like LoL and get there shit kicked in an quit. Its not like LoL except they are mobas.

i think you're retarded. i honestly have no idea how people have problems transitioning between dota/lol/hots unless you have very limited rts experience. do you lose control of your character or something

>You literally spam fucking abilities and cross your fingers hopefuly you'll win. It's fucking boring.
So you've never played it.

>Lolbabs will never have the pleasure of kicking ass with this bad boy

I've played it since beta.
The game is spammy as hell and the map always tells you where to go. It really couldn't be much more braindead.

Neutral Evil cause I always lose the clip as soon as I open the bag

My nig, even other DOTA players underestimate him.

Nope, I farmed and poked at them when I could but occasionally a poke would lead them to fully engaging me and they would always kill me. I even tried ignoring them, farming quick and pushing minions to tower but after 30 minutes of this, I got bored as fuck. Surely this isn't how you play.

>played him for the second time at 4am
>went like 17-2
>still lost
I expected to lose but it was pretty disappointing to lose after doing unexpectedly well

Who were you playing and who were you poking?

are you talking about the dragon knight tutorial or a real 5v5 bot match

HotS is basically just Dota 2 holiday events as the main game. Which is fine, since Dota 2 stopped doing them anyhow.

>Can zone out the mid laner with infinite Wraith spam
>Can kill the mid laner as soon as he gets lvl 6
>Double Midas for fast farming
>Every item is a powerspike
>Complex enough that he never gets boring
>Can split push, gank, team fight AND defend extremely well
Why is he so perfect?

It was a long while back but I'm pretty sure I tried the melee (dragon knight, I guess) and long range tutorial to similar results.

you forgot his cool model and voice

His backstory is fucking great
>Bitchslapped the ancients into a rock prison
>Notices Elder Titan is a fuck up and decides to finish off both Ancients once and for all

> hasn't played garena dota or hon
how new are you, fucking fag?
> valve has automated report system
everyone has automated report system, some just act manually more to protect their snowflake audience (Riot)

LoL literally plays slower than Dota 2. Your heros move and act slower...same with HotS.

Arc Warden should aim to get enough of an advantage early to make his mid game bearable, ie the time when you're building BoTs and Mjolnir, and then finish the game either by split pushing or out right killing the underfarmed enemies. He's pretty weak when the enemy's carry gets his items, unless he gets the drop on them first with double vyse+ bloodthorn.

both are fucking liquid garbage, the predecessor of both single-handedly killed Warcraft 3, my favorite game short of devil may cry 3, slowly but surely.

The only good thing to come from that game is the porn.

Blizzard did what no other AAA game studio making one of these accursed things would never fucking do: changing the formula.

Is it good? Sort of. Enjoyment of the game relies solely on who you play with. If its with friends, sure. If not, also fine.

Once again we bear witness to the retarded pissing contest that comes between proponents of either game. Little do they know is that both are utter trash where the game design is in part driven by short-sighted greed (ESPECIALLY for LoL's case for the longest time).

no HotS has you run around playing the unique map objectives / powerups. So much to the point that you feel like you are playing some mini game instead of a true moba.

I didn't even know you could die in the tutorials. i'm in the DK one now and the bot isnt even hitting me

>Different characters have different speeds
>Different abilities affect speed
>Different different items affect speed

GUYS, GUYS GUYS, DOTA HEROES MOVE FASTER THAN ALL LEAGUE HEROES, I DID ALL THE MATH...

You stink of desperation, user.

Try engaging or poking a bit more and get prepared to run like a motherfucker

Which is why it's fun.

>Blizzard did what no other AAA game studio making one of these accursed things would never fucking do: changing the formula.

the fuck are you talking about ? the only 3 that were ever really similar was dota, league, and hon. every other one changed the formula there was smite, some 2d platformer ones, some space one with ship combat, paragon, etc.

nah it literally will not hit you

I would take Mario Party any day over HotS. The only good thing HotS did at the time was talent system and shared XP gain.

hots should have been angel arena instead of a bad dota clone

Well, obviously value hacked my riot account, found out my League rank and ranked up the difficulty to challenger to prove a point because I got raped like a female hitchhiker in Iraq