Did ganondorf ever do anything particularity bad?

Did ganondorf ever do anything particularity bad?
Like what are you actually fighting against in most the zelda games?

Is it just like star wars where the galactic empire is bad because they wear black or whatever?

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why are his feet bigger than his head

>black ginger from the middle-east
that's reason enough

Nintendo needs to make a game where you play as a young Ganondorf.

The Legend of Zelda: Rise of Ganondorf

You know what they say...

gee, I dunno. Maybe he's evil incarnate who kills millions of people.

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all toasters toast toast

Have completely different genetics and build on that

Well he loosed monster in Kokiri Forest
Loosed Volvagia and imprisoned the Gorons
Froze the Zoras
Destroyed Hyrule Town

Implying the children they make these games for want to play as the bad guy

He's a super evil demon reincarnation that wants to take over the world.

He kind of doesn't though.
Thats kind of the thing.

>Children

All the kids play GTA 5 and CoD and screech into microphones online.

>destroyed hyrule castle/zombified population
>froze zora lake
>planned to feed gorons to volvagia

>In games other than OoT, he tends to kidnap people/try to sacrifice them to gain power

You fighting against him is generally pretty justified.

Usually not all that polite of a guy.

Oh, and he kills people.

>Did ganondorf ever do anything particularity bad?
Killed the Great Deku Tree
Sealed off the Goron's source of food
Froze Zora's Domain
Destroyed Castle Town and its inhabitants
Killed the King
Let an ancient dragon loose in the mountains

Don't believe the WWfag lies, Ganondorf's an asshole

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Wind Waker-dorf.

Ganondorf did nothing wrong.

In ocarina of time he does, look at what happened to hyrule marketplace

That's true, but imagine if they made a game where Ganondorf is good and Link is evil? Wouldn't it be kinda cool if things were opposite in a parallel Zelda universe?

Yes he does.
Thats kind of the thing.

If he was so evil, why did he let Malon live?

and link doesn't kill people? and link isn't an impolite asshole going around vandalizing bushes and signs?

And then everyone just sort of moved to kakariko which is like three feet over, and was left alone.

Are you saying you wouldn't buy your kids an Ashley world conquest game?

Huge bongo's

I think you know why.

And it's kind of guarded by fucking ninjas.

You know what I'm talking about mister.
Ganon kills innocent people.

Bushes and signs respawn when you leave an area and come back.

He literally brainwashed one of the ranch hands to take over and raise horses for him.

A better question: is Ganondorf evil because he legitimately enjoys it or because the evil power within him practically forces him into accepting it and turning evil? What if one day he reincarnated and simply decided he didn't want to evil?

Ganondorf suffered from depression and Hyrule didn't have the facilitates to help him so he lashed out. It's very tragic.

What, impa?

Isn't he set by fate to always play his evil part?
I wonder if it could be broken.

>Will the circle, be unbroken?

If you played SS you would know he is literally demise incarnate. He doesn't have a choice. He isn't like some normal guy whose body is infested with evil, he IS evil. That's just the form he's taken.

Why does she live alone? Where's her guardians?

Best Gannon. Prove me wrong.

Now you realize that most people have motivations and reasons behind the things they do, and someone who is just "evil incarnate" is boring.

Still let her live non worse for wear.

>Is it just like star wars where the galactic empire is bad because they wear black or whatever?
>on-the-spot executions, including their own officers
>built a giant mobile space station which can and did destroy a civilized planet called the "Death Star" of all things
>killed an old farmer couple who unknowingly housed rebel droids and torched their homestead
>held a planet at gunpoint in exchange for the rebel base location, then pulled the trigger anyway when they got their answer
And that's just the first movie.

toasters don't toast toast, they toast bread retard

I loved going in her domain and listening to her theme song.

Ocarnia of time worse he did in child timeline was poison a God damn tree, the other two problems could have been solved by any adult with two cents in their God damn head.

You forgot there was some big invisible evil thing in the well, that later escapes.

I think it would be a really interesting story to make. A reincarnation where just this once he did not want to be the bad guy, but the strings of fate keeps pushing him in that direction. Him, Link, and Zelda actually being total bros together while having to save Ganon from his own fate.

Just because you don't see him do it doesn't mean it's not his fault.

Most (if not all) of the troubles people have in Zelda games can be traced back to him and his lust for power.

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He didn't brainwash that guy, that guy was scheming if you listen to him during child section before he takes over anything

He also killed that one guard in Hyrule

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There's a theory from TVTropes that suggests that Ganon is the reincarnation or Goose Soul and Demise's hatred. They use the logic that for some reason it's never made clear, Impa was also forced to reincarnate to but she wasn't apart of the direct curse of demise. so it's possible the curse effected Groose as well.

I'd like a Zelda game where Link and Ganondorf grow up as bros, only for Ganondorf to betray him once they both reach the triforce.

Its corny as fuck, but it would add some context and emotion to the final boss.

Oh yeah that guy, sucks like 90%+ of us never found out about him until we were older.

I had the idea, based on the TVtropes theory I posted about, of having the interlopers war (the one referenced in twilight princess) be revealed to be caused by Groose's reincarnation before Ganon being influenced by Demise's hated. Ending with Link having to battle his friend to the death.

Legend of Zelda NES: Ganon releases monsters on the countryside, killing countless civilians and uses black magic to attempt to topple the beloved rulers
Link to the Past: Ganon kidnaps several innocent women and murders a lot of people, uses black magic to mind control many guards and has them kill anybody who opposes him
Ocarina of Time: Ganon unleashes monsters, particularly zombies, to pretty much wipe out the entire population of the kingdom in a genocide, forcing the survivors to evacuate to some shitty village
Wind Waker: Ganon kidnaps a large number of children and unleashes monsters on the countryside. This Ganon actually doesn't do as much evil as normal
Twilight Princess: Destroys multiple kingdoms, releases monsters on the countryside
Breath of the Wild: Possibly the most evil ganon to date. He's literally an incarnation of evil, known as a natural disaster. He lays waste to a massive civilization and destroys entire towns. It's implied that he killed countless civilians. Survivors are forced to go into hiding in the few secluded villages that survived his rampage

Ganon's victims aren't rubbed in your face so much because Zelda is mostly a game series for kids and they don't want to have graphic deaths and lots of tragedy, but pretty much every appearance he destroys an entire civilization with violence.

>Link keeps beating Ganondorf in duels.
>Ganondorf excels in crowd control like he's playing a musou
>bro ass moment where Link is getting overrun trying to reach the implied big bad where Ganondorf steps in to save the day and holds off an army of iron knuckle tier badguys while urging Link to move forward

>based on the TVtropes theory I posted about
Kill yourself.

>"they don't want graphic deaths"

-Wind waker ending with a suicide (the king) and possibly Ganondorf trapped in stone forever unable to die. Oh opens with a apocalyptic flood!

-Twilight Princess has Zant being brutally and suddenly killed by Midna. Ends with Ganondorf impaled and dying on his feet after coughing up blood.

-Majora's mask terrible fate.

>wut?!

That would be really lazy. Ganondorf is the desert bandit warlord archetype, not really fit for a rivalry-turned-hostility story with a Hylian hailing from a peaceful forested village. If they were to ever go down that path I'd rather it be a new villain who was made for the role. Of course knowing Nintendo it would then turn out that he was controlled by Ganon all along who will then go over to be the true final boss again.

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They were referring to an earlier post where they mentioned a TVtropes theory, not one they posted themselves on TV tropes...

Those are the main antagonists, and their death is an important plot point.

I mean that they're not going to talk a lot about some random background people dying or show a lot of humans dying. Hell, in Breath of the Wild if you encounter a traveler being attacked by monsters they can't even die, they just get knocked out.

Zelda series is extremely squeamish about having humans die with the exception of the main bad guys who get their big epic death scene and the occasional "soldier gives a message with his dying breath" trope

I'm just playing by Nintendo's rules, but I'd love a new main villain with even a little substance and context to them.

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Yeah imo they've regressed with breath, the one normal human boss dies humorously, the other are said to be "mindless beast"™ (the blight and Ganon) or machines.

Still super disappointed they didn't give us any hint at the human Ganondorf in terms of characterization especially after Wind Waker and Twilight Princess showing two very strong but different paths Ganondorf could take personality wise.

>majoras mask

On the other hand at least they made it less ambiguous that Ganon is an evil asshole. It's implied that a lot of people died when he controlled all those guardians and started fucking everything up

Nah just really kind of "Ganondorf's asshole-ishness is always told but not shown" and now that we've literally been told in Skyward sword that he's just following some destiny of an ancient demon's curse. It kind of calls into question how much is Ganondorf as a person and how much is it Demise's influence?

After establishing in the last game he's a puppet to some curse of some demon. It's like the opposite of Bowser/King Koopa, Starts off as this irredeemable princess stealing monster but over the last 35 years we've seen him go into an actually rather complex character who isn't clearly all bad. With Wind Waker they seemed to be taking that road for the most part with Ganondorf but over the last 10 years it's felt like the "let's shit on that" train with the "A GOD AM I" Twilight Princess Ganondorf, then "My hatred is never ending" Demise reveal and finally "Hey he's an asshole who wiped out Hyrule and doesn't even speak anymore " Calamity Ganon.

If you put toast in a toaster it would still get toasted.

Who's the retard now?

I'd rather Ganon be like a mentor or something. It would be weird for them to be the same age. Have him truly be a good guy who cares for his people and Link but the lust for power overtakes him at some point. Sure, it'd be cliche, but I'd play it just to see a different side to Ganon.

It wouldn't really work because everybody would know from the second that they meet him that he will turn evil. It wouldn't work as a twist if you know what the twist is from the second you start the game

Mate, remember Hyrule Town? He killed everyone and raised them as zombies. He imprisoned the entire Goron population. He froze the Zora. He unleashed monsters into the forest. He built a giant tower without planning permission.

that last one doesn't have the impact of the other 2. It's like Arson, Murder and Jaywalking t b h

It's only ever implied.

Which is why Skull kid/majora's mask is so much better of a villian, you constantly see the actual negative impact they made on the world and other characters.

>big hooked nose
>lusts for power
>responsible for every bad thing in the world
What did Nintendo mean by this?