Friendly reminder to hit up Best Buy this Black Friday and pick up Disgaea 5 Complete for the Switch if you haven't...

Friendly reminder to hit up Best Buy this Black Friday and pick up Disgaea 5 Complete for the Switch if you haven't already. Shit's gonna be $20.

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Canada?

North America.

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Are Kunoichi better with staffs or with fists in D3Vita? They seem like good buff and debuff casters, especially with evasion skill.

nothing is better than fist.

Should I keep waiting for NISA to port 3 and 4 or just hit the emulator already?

Just wait or buy a Vita TV if you cant wait theyre pretty cheap nowadays.

Just buy a Vita or a Vita TV and play their definitive versions there. Disgaea's lots of fun on a portable, and being able to grind anywhere makes it even more enticing.

Actual 5 spoilersThe post game interactions made little sense for Majorita since Void was there and they act like best of people. It made some sense since she doesn't really try, but they hold everything she did, while Void gets a few "you gotta make up for it". It still seemed off how it was Handled.
ESRB had 5 coming to PC, so they may take a while to come.

>Friendly reminder to hit up Best Buy this Black Friday and pick up Disgaea 5 Complete for the Switch if you haven't already. Shit's gonna be $20.
and Sup Forums pretends this place isnt full of nintendo shills

Or I could just be spreading the word for one of my favorite franchises

Why does every Disgaea just shit the bed with the map design nearing the final chapter?

I WANNA FUCCUBUS A SUCCUBUS

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>tfw bought it for $40 last week

Nothing in that game makes sense, we start with a revenge theme but in the end "it's power of love and friendship" half assed "character arcs" one after another. I hated how void dark was only a threat in flashbacks, and when you finally meet him it's a shitty sitcom drama.Majorita being totally forgiven for killing billions because "if we do it we are just like them" was pure cringe coming from fucking demons in a world were you atone your sins by being resurrected as a prinny.
Overall the poor quality of Liselotte artworks make me think the story was retooled heavily last minute, and she was forced in a plot she didn't belong to.
Gameplay is ok but ended up skipping a lot of dialogs near the end of the game and that makes me sad (special mention for the dialogs in the base, with are all horrible and feels like patch content that spoils literally every plot point that the chapter title didn't rape already)

Main Cast rankings: 2 > 1 > 4 > D2 > 3 > 5
Support Cast rankings: 1 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 3 > D2
Villian Rankings: 1 > 3 > 4 > D2 > 5 > 4
Wish they were more consistent. The base dialogue is a good idea, show them interacting outside they story is good. Most of the ones in 5 were ok, But when the characters got annoying, it got awful.

>Main Cast of 2
>that high
Way to out yourself as a shitter.

The other main cast at least had that one annoying person that 2 did not suffer from too much compared to them.

>Tink
>Hanako
>Taro
Even Yukimaru. These characters bring nothing to the table and are mostly nonessential to the narrative. They're terrible, and when compared to the later games where the main cast is more focused and involved, 2 easily has the worst cast.

You talkin' shit about Zam Ma'am?

It's one of the shittiest story in the series and by far one of the worst item worlds. Hell item world stopped being good at 2.

I like Yukimaru, but she was hardly involved in the story, and whether she or wasn't there, nothing would really change. She really only served to introduce us to her clan, giving us more elaboration on Rozalin's mother.

> IMA SHOUNEN HERO
> Not annoying

I could have accepted Laharl since he's cool but the actual MC rankings are

4 > 1 > 5 (debatable) > 2 > 3

6 when?

>The base dialogue is a good idea
it's dumb to have like 5 dialogs in a row instead of a proper cutsene (last chapter)
Also fucking spoiler shit like Christo asking "would you mind if there were an angel in team" at a time of the story when this isn't obvious.
Also at some point the story brings up "Seraphine is tight with money" when it wasn't especially seen before, or even after. Too much "say don't show" going on imo.

>6 when?
when they can greenlight Etna's new look on a nintendo system

By that logic half the cast of D5 is irrelevant because they're barely involved in the story after their respective "development" chapter.

Not skimpy enough.

you described a problem in d5 so yeah

You are 100% correct.

What do you consider Main characters? Main characters included the characters with major story scenes that didn't get regulated to the back as the story went on.
This is the correct protag list

I didn't like Valvatorez, sardine memes were too much. Laharl was not made to ve liked, you were supposed to dislike him and gradually turn to his side and he developed as a character. That really worked for me.

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In respects to D5, the party being involved in and backing the resistance with their respective Netherworlds is enough for them to be more influential than the majority of 2's cast. 5's cast actually has some influence, just as strong and often being put on the forefront of development similar to that of an MC. Visiting their Netherworlds also helps to really see the damage of VD's monarchy and in turn, flesh out the character's motivation more than, "I want to be as sexy as Etna and win over my big bro!" or Tink's, "I was a narrative device used to deliver some exposition and later relegated to comic relief!"

In 2, save for Adell and Rozalin and fucking Axel (the real protagonist of 2), everybody else is just there. They never contribute much other than extra manpower, and really, they're mostly shit units that you could go the whole game without.

It really seems like people ignore a majority of 5's themes and devices.

So is the game enjoyable for people who don't like the story?

Valvatorez is higher due to taking all of the appearances as a protag, which Laharl taking from 1 and D2.
Story is hit or miss, the game play is good if you don't mind a little grinding

Meant all of the protags take from when they are the protag, So Laharl got 1 and D2, Addel 2, Mao 3, Val, 4, Killa 5. F!Laharl is easily the stupidest thing about him.

Yes I might pick this up. Never played one before but i do enjoy srpgs

Love disgaea, played it since the OG hour of darkness. The endgame grind in the later games seems to have moved away from item world grinding to just reincarnating a bunch of times to get stronger faster.. Am I doing something wrong? Seems like items matter much less unless you literally grind 999 levels in them, whereas 100 levels and item god beat was an incredible power spike before. overall great games

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To me Disgaea is just SRPG on name but on essence is ARPG you have so much freedom compared to most SRPG that is not funny.

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import the nip version instead of giving NISA your money

>Why not add an import tax to a region free game?

paying more is better than supporting NISA

The Japanese game has the english version on it. Nisa is still getting paid.

not necessarily.

Nothing you say about 5's protags is true. they never have infuence outside of their own chapter, and then the eanding predictable twist where their people come to help. You save each kingdom for the sake of saving them and unlocking special powers that don't really make sense (wtf how is defeating a curse of berserk allow Usalia to ... use berserk powers?)
Only magus gets "developed" and that means being castrated into a happy helpful follower. All of killia's development is done alone, or against his master mcguffin.christo was probably the most disappointing in that regards with the angel origin being spoiled immediately then we never even see a fucking angel in the story, even when the game mechanics unlock angel soldiers.

of course, necessarily. You think translation are done for free? that nobody sign contracts because you can't read them?

you think NISA gets paid for every japanese copy sold just because someone might use the english text?

This was easily the stupidest chapter in any Disagea game. Closest thing to come to is is Seraphina "lesson learned" in 5 and Sicily leaving in D2. Every character introduced in D2 was a mistake except maybe for Xenolith

Yeah that's kinda how licensing agreements work.

They got paid for the right to use their work, yes. nobody is paid "by the game sold", not even the company, that get its money on the number of copies sold to stores, not to customers.

It wasn't that bad. At least I thought so.

the only stupid part is that this event only last one chapter, should have been longer and maybe more progressive to indicate how fucked up and unstable the netherworld is becoming, instead of that one waste of time that somehow resolve itself "over time lol"

Does Disgaea 5's story benefit from knowing 3 or 4 at all? I haven't played those two.

Every game is self-contained you don't need any background plot-wise.

This game doesn't give a shit about even the basics of Disgaea lore like reincarnation cycles and prinnies being dead human criminals.
They say "netherworld" when they are talking about planets and while I think one line of dialog say "human" once, the race trinity demon/angels/human isn't even there.

I ask because Laharl Etna and Flonne were all a part of Disgaea 2's story. Thanks.

4 > 3 > 1 > 2

Haven't played 5 or D2 yet