2007
>"The government should interfere with the video game industry leave us alone"
2017
>"WAHHHHHHH THIS GAME HAS OPTIONAL LOOTBOXES THAT MEANS IT'S GAMBLING THINK OF THE CHILDREN WE NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO REGULATE THIS"
When did Sup Forums stop being based libertarians?
What Went Wrong?
Trump.
>>"The government should interfere with the video game industry leave us alone"
You mean "shouldn't" at least learn to spell right you fucking faggot
>The government should interfere with the video game industry
what did he mean by this?
>"The government should interfere
Nice job you stupid cunt.
Bumped so everyone else has a chance to laugh at you.
The industry went wrong in a different way. One is a moral outrage. The other is being fucked hard by awful consumer practices emanating from video game publishers. It's no the same...
Pointing out a typo instead of coming up with counter points just shows you've lost the argument
One was driven by outsiders to the industry and the other is the industry adjusting to the market
It’s not hard to see why loot boxes are a legal and okay thing
>What went wrong?
Companies kept them thinking up ways to charge us for games we already bought.
I hate lootboxes as much as the next dude but people who genuinely think the government should step in to solve the problem are complete idiots. That's not a precedent you want to set.
The whole point of the ESRB is to keep regulation in the hands of the industry itself, and even though it's a completely powerless organization, people still comply with it because they kno that if they don't, the government will have to step in and it isn't going to be pretty.
Just vote with your wallet and pray the idiots of the world aren't much richer than you.
>optional lootboxes
Here we go down the slippery slope from "IT'S JUST COSMETICS GUYS DURR"
>What Went Wrong?
Counter point to what?
Some faggot OP TALKING IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS WITH SHIT LIKE "WAAAAAH"
Such an intelligent argument in need of discussion
/thread
KEEP POSTING BROTHER
THESE POOR ASS FAGS WILL EVENTUALLY LAY OFF THE POOR, INNOCENT CORPORATIONS WHOSE ONLY INTEREST IS PROVIDING ENTERTAINMENT TO THE MASSES AT AS LOW A COST AS POSSIBLE
IT MAKES ME SO MAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Hey EA I need help on other forms I'm trying to convince gamers to by Star Wars BF2 but they keep calling me a shill and yeah I know that's what I am but I NEED the money because my daughter is diabetic and I've been trying to call your offices all day so that I can get instructions going on forward but the Secretary Janice keeps hanging up on me when trying to put me on hold PLEASE get back to me my daugher is almost out of insulin.
> base libertarians
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ::breathes:: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS OH WOW
>when you're getting fucked by no regulation, you want it
>when you're getting fucked by regulation, you don't want it
not big surprise
like everything, the middleground is best.
Fuck off EA shill.
Or Overwatch fan, I suppose. Go jerk off to your waifu.
Video games violence doesn't enforce real life violent behavior. Pseudo-gambling systems in video games DO enforce gambling tendencies. Scientifically proven to work which is why it's so popular right and makes so much money.
Also aside from that it's incredibly anti-consumer and makes for shitty game design. Games are made around lootboxes in order to maximize sales of them. Remember they're not selling you a good they're selling you a shortcut at a chance at getting a item.
A SHORTCUT at A CHANCE at getting a item. Think about that for a second.
EA can do whatever the fuck they want tbqh. If they cross the line people will, you know, boycott their shit.
We're not asking for bans on good games because of muh political/social implications
We're asking for regulations on scummy business practices that take advantage of people
Big difference
Honestly it's not corporations fault that the consumers are impulsive and dumb. Blaming them for doing shady bullshit is like blaming animals for taking food you leave outside.
One is regulating content, while the other is regulating distribution. People don't want the government to meddle in how art is made, but regulating how that art is bought and sold is a different story.
You shills are just throwing all the shit at the wall and hoping something sticks now, aren't you? Try connecting Anita to this somehow, nu-Sup Forums is too young to remember Wacky Jack Thompson. Go on. Try arguing that opposing lootbox cancer is somehow feminism. It might work.
I actually want them to stay. They serve a purpose of ripping retards from the suburbs off all their cash while smart folk such as myself don't buy the shit. Darwin.
Sup Forums became the very monster they were supposedly advocating against. They became SJW.
I will never for the life of me understand the logic of purchasing and playing a game that you are outraged over. Dodgy consumer practises are purely the result of brainlets giving companies money knowing full well they will be bent over and fucked. How stupid can you be? Is it really that important that you play the latest normie garbage?
You either die a memer, or you live long enough to get memed.
Videogames area played by kids. Kids don't understand economics
Not only that you can't vote with your wallet. Some dipshit will spend 2000 USD on them. You also have the dipshits who do lootbox opening videos and streams who then enforce buying lootboxes by proxy.
This isn't a fucking political issue.
The government’s only real purpose should be to protect consumers from getting fucked in the ass by sleazebag companies.
That will lead to a future where literally every game will have loot boxes and will be designed around loot boxes. There is no room for good games when gamblebox garbage makes a thousand times more money.
So they need defending because they don't know how to defend for themselves?
Libertarians are a joke you stupid fuck, nobody over 15 here is a libertarian.
The government shouldn't need to. What the fuck are you talking about? You control how your own money is spent . If you get fucked in the ass because you have company money to fuck your ass that's not the company's fault.
>rich normalfags spend tons on lootboxes
>shows to be extremely profitable
>lootboxes become standard in video games
>j-just i-ignore them v-vote with your wallet
...
Nah. I can always play old games or Nintendo games or if I have to get a new hobby. Meanwhile a generation of addicted gamblers run about easy for pickings. People such as myself will have all the rewards.
>less than 1% of game have lootboxes
>only play games with lootboxes
>blame the companies
>cry to the government
>vote for bernie sanders
>vote with ur wallet xD
If rich normalfags want to spend their money on trash, who are you to tell them any different? It's their fucking money.
"the industry adjusting to the market" is just another way to say "the industry has begun gouging harder than ever to keep their quarterly projections up without having to actually innovate or inprove"
YEAH MAN I FUCKING LOVE PAYING 10 BUCKS FOR A VIRTUAL CRATE FOR A 1/1000 CHANCE TO GET A VIRTUAL SKIN FOR MY VIRTUAL RIFLE, DAMN THAT LOOKS SICK DUDE
One is about censorship ruining games. The other is about lootboxes ruining games.
The argument has never changed, just the method necessary to achieve the desired outcome. Of course being too stupid to understand is a given for people like you.
>rich
>normalfag
Pick one.
They only play these games because millions of poor people also play them. If it were just 100 rich people playing they would have no interest in spending thousands of dollars in a dead game. Stop blaming others for your terrible life choices
ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A COMMUNIST AMIRITE COMRADE
FUCK Sup Forums FUCK GAMERGATE
Just don't cry when it the companies fuck you up the ass with lootboxes in every game.
Also I'd rather An Hero than vote for Bernie Sanders.
Fuck personal responsibility. Clearly, gamers can't into finance, so we need someone to tell us how to spend our money.
We didn't want the former to fuck up gaming with China-tier laws, then the industry went and did it themselves via appeals/exploitation. When the games are no longer normally-playable due to the latter, it's hard to say nothing.
It's a lose-lose scenario unless the full extent of said "intervention" is nothing more than pre-existing gambling laws being updated. Lobbies are what you should really fear.
>I-I was doing a study I swear I am not that stupid!
Lol
>Stop blaming others for your terrible life choices
What the fuck are you even talking about?
People forgot people like Leland Yee run the country.
Prisoners?
I have never played a game with a lootbox in it. I don't generally gravitate to those kinds of games anyway and if i saw lootboxes i wouldn't play it.
Because it's ruining it for everyone else. Including me, the most important one obviously. Bad business practices ruin games.
>implying most rich people aren't surface level normalfags when it comes to gaming
Anyone else that's rich and isn't a normalfag probably doesn't buy lootboxes/gacha and if they do it's to keep their shitty pay to win MMO or waifu simulator phone game afloat.
People voluntarily playing games with lootboxes then crying to the government about it
Hypocrites.
The tech industry is also ruining everything for underpaid chinese factory workers, should we ban the sale of mobile phones as well?
Autism much.
>video games shouldn't ever be regulated
>video games are sexist and promote racism, they need to be removed
Pick one liberal.
It's only a matter of time before their total lack of impulse control affects me too.
>waaaa ban lootboxes
>waaaa if you avoid lootboxes you're autistic
He was absolutely right and we didn't listen.
Exactly. Anyone expressing moral outrage over loot box gambling is just trying to incite action against a poisonous trend for games, not because they actually care about the immorality of exploiting or creating gambling addictions.
Maybe. But I don't really give shit about underpaid chinese workers. I never said I was a morally just person.
But will banning mobile phones really fix the problems facing chinese factory works? Probably not. Same with lootboxes it won't fix the problem but it will stunt it and hinder growth of the bad and anti-consumer business practices that is "games as a service".
Leave EA alone please leave EA alone
>"The government should interfere with the video game industry leave us alone"
That's not what that was about, lol. That was just shitting on Jack Thompson because he kept saving vidya turned you into a serial killer.
...
>comparing censoring freedom of expression with regulating economic exploitation
>pray the idiots of the world aren't much richer than you.
Like that stops compulsive gamblers.
2016 happened and Sup Forums became a bunch of babbling Trump fanatics
We got filled with normies and shit taste plebs.
OP clearly isn't looking for a serious discussion, so why should I give him one?
They're both moral outrage. There's nothing legally wrong with loot boxes, the whole argument is about whether it's right for publishers to treat their customers like living wallets instead of people.
>Just vote with your wallet and pray the idiots of the world aren't much richer than you.
Nope. Vote with your wallet is a meme when you're dealing with a service that imitates the psychology of a slot machine. Even if 60% of the entire gaming population hated lootboxes that wouldn't matter if the other 40% spent enough on them to give EA and publishers a profit. This is specifically why they target whales and big spenders. You are not voting and even if you were not everyone has the same number of votes and you don't need majority opinion to win.
This site is the conservative version of SJWs and has been for quite a while. Notice how a good portion of the whining about lootboxes coincidentally includes some degree of shilling against muh jews
Go back gaf
Regulate the shit out of it. Corporations should feel the heat.
Here's a crazy fucking idea; don't fucking buy it! :^D
>What Went Wrong
Gamergate and the 2016 elections.
SPBP
the evils of today are much more greater and invasive then the evils of yesteryear to the point where they don't seem as bad anymore
What's wrong EA? afraid your shareholders will hear us?
It's too late, and will be Sim City all over again.
>When did Sup Forums stop being based libertarians?
from the moment devs started acting like criminals
>acting like criminals
Lying and phrasing things like this doesn't make you any less of an SJW, alt righty
Nigger, that's just money laundering at that point.
i am not even alt right much less sjw
go fuck yourself
>corrects first post
>gets blasted with shit
user, you're a Hiro.
>When did Sup Forums stop being based libertarians?
When they started to be critical thinkers?
>equating the banning of lootboxes to censorship
You can always tell who the retarded shills are by their ridiculous strawmen
Hey, why can't publishers just charge for playing other games on the same machine as their games? It's a free market, they can do whatever they want.
Hey, why can't publishers sell you a game and then lock the contents of your harddrive as ransom? It's a free market!
Hey, why can't publishers sell you the main menu of the game and then charge you hidden fees for every chapter you play? It's a free market!
Hey, why can't publishers claim that a game is mutliplatform but it only functions on one platform? It's a free market!
Hey, why don't publishers do any of the above? Because ultimately they have to sell a product that is enticing to the consumer.
So why shouldn't publishers put lootboxes in videogames? Because it is a disincentive towards purchases.
Not op. Ex ea employee. My stick has raised more than 500% and the sim city fiasco didn’t affect t at all.
I wish gamers could be less childish about their protests because I honestly think ea has buttfucked many of the games and studios. But the way gamers act today is just benefiting the studios with some free publicity.
>playing AAA garbage
your first mistake
>2027
>Game comes with a free sample of heroine
>"Waah! Why do you want the government to regulate this?"
>>gets blasted with shit
>two samefags
>one guy saying SPBP
>(You)
You guys don't deserve video games
This desu famalam
Who the fuck would actually defend lootboxes? What a cucked faggot.