Who would win in a fight? Doomguy or Doom Slayer? My money's on the doomslayer

Who would win in a fight? Doomguy or Doom Slayer? My money's on the doomslayer.

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Theyre the same guy

No they aren't.

Yes they are.

Do they even look remotely the same?

Doom guy isn't even an official name.

No they aren't.
Doom Guy is a earth space marine. Doom Slayer is a humanoid alien native from an alien world named Argent D'Nur.

Ya weren't paying attention user, he was a mysterious figure who showed up on the alien world that already had holy defenders who couldn't believe this badass fought his way out of hell.

If the Doom Slayer were from Argent D'Nur, how does he recognize the English that Hayden speaks? The concept of English most likely doesn't exist on an alien world.

Who would win in a fight? OP right now or OP tomorrow? Either way we win.

Speed reading is hazardous to the quality of your discussion.

Well the op of this morning is not as dumb as the op that made this thread

>google "doomguy quake champions"
>first results are all about Quake Champions literally confirming its the same guy

Doomguy vs the ds9 space station.

Maybe the Argend D'Nur's and Hell languages are coincidentally equal to English.

Read the Slayer's testament again. He came during the age of the first lord (Possibly the Icon of Sin), was blessed by a seraphim, got the Praetor suit from the Wretch THEN became the king of the Night Sentinels from the Argent D'nur. There was nothing to say he came from the realm, but we do know he was stomping around in hell before the Night Sentinels made him king. This connects up to the ending of Doom 64 where he voluntarily stays in hell to kill demons for all eternity. Now the real debate whether or not he was the betrayer to the Night Sentinels that caused the Wraiths to be captured and led to the chain of events to have the demon temple crumble onto the Doomslayer.

Doomguy was created to resemble iconic action film characters like Schwarzenegger, Stallone, etc, badass allright but more as a generic vessel for the player to use
On the other hand Doomslayer was born out of the memes made over the years, as a result he has to be portrayed as this brainded invincible onslaught who can go against anithing with the rip and tear mentality.
I like doomguy a bit more, but it's subjective

Actually, Doomslayer has shown that he cares deeply about shit, just not anything related to demons. Best moments that show this off is the deletion of VEGA, the slight pause he has when Hayden says destroying the argent filter will doom humanity and him looking down at the corpse when Hayden says "What we are doing is the best for humanity"

>Schwarzenegger, Stallone
>brainded invincible onslaught who can go against anithing with the rip and tear mentality
It all checks out. Doomguy confirmed for Doomslayer.

doomslayerguy is definitely not braindead you jerk take it back

DA DOOMSWAYA IS SO FWIKEN EPIC I WOVE GWOWY KIWWS

u mad

Noone says that. Begone Halo fanboy

>calling people halo fanboys while posting halodoom

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I like how id software just basically gave Doomguy full plot armor for the new game. Fucker is basically an elder god from Hell now.

They are the same person, but who would win between Doomguy and GS? Both have the hatred but the former is pure strength and the later is pragmatism.

Halo badman and frogposters BTFO

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why is the texture on his pants unfiltered?

doomgay

Reporting in from tomorrow, it turns out yesterday's OP won.

Because THPS3 is weird that way, there's a couple textures like that in the game. Blame Renderware.

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Ranger would kick Doomguy's ass.

How's that new single player game coming along?

Pretty good, the final (or so sock says) update for Arcane Dimensions just dropped.

honestly who would win?

Yes they are. Play the game again.

Doomslayer has characterization and cares about shit other than fucking up hell demons. He's just pissed off as fuck that people fucked around with Hell and opened it up again.

Anyone who get a hold of BFG first

>it's a people who have never played or even looked at halo gameplay think that doomslayer's armor looks anything like halo armor episode

depends, doomguy apparently now canonically has blessings of the angels protecting him, but through collecting runes and slaying the shub ranger has gotten hold of at least some of the power of the Outer Gods so it depends on whether heaven+hell based religious protection accounts for things from beyond the stars

I've played every Halo and Doom game. It's pretty similar, just bulkier.

What if all doom wads are canon?

Doomguy died at the end of episode 1 when he fell for the demon trap.

His body and soul then merged with the betrayer thus he became the Doomslayer.

You've been playing as the Doomslayer since act 2 of the very first game

We need a game to introduce a proper antagonist to Doomguy, but in the demon side, Hayden the virgin scientist isn't gonna stop the chad doomguy, maybe a game where the MC finishes becoming a demon for lust of power

Why did you only post the player model instead of the character select which shows that they are one and the same?

GUYS GUYS I KNOW THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME BUT LISTEN
WHAT IF DOOM 4 ERA MARINE FELL INTO A TIME PORTAL THAT SENT HIM BACK TO DOOM 1 AND HE SAW THE DOOM ERA MARINE AND THEY THOUGHT EACHOTHER WAS DEMONS

The reincarnation of Korax

if that happens then clasicguy would lose from lack of experience
and proper armor.

Doom 4 guy isnt human and has superhuman abilities
Doom 1-3 guy is just a marine

People who say its the same person are fucking retarded, its a clearly a reboot with not even a single lore connection to previous games.
Also The Doom 1 guys being superfast and shit is just stupid, its clearly an engine and gameplay simplification of the time and Doom3 guy represents how he was supposed to be.

> Decide to settle for a speedrun race instead of fighting
> Doom Slayer wins because he can jump and break levels

Even when the lore actually lines up to the end of Doom 64, which canonically the sequel to Doom 2?

you cant take the truth

How the fuck does it line up?
Doom 4 guy comes from a world where fighting against demons is the norm, where he was a member of
night sentinels, knights in charge of defending his home world. His world got destroyed, and it was eons ago.

So how it lines up again?

Ah ah ah. It says he was the king of the Night Sentinels, it never went further than that. It also says the Argent D'nur was absorbed into hell BEFORE Doomguy became the king. Meanwhile Doom 64 states that the Doomguy stayed in hell to fight numerous amounts of demons. Also, the Slayer's testament starts at the first demonic lord but Argent D'nur and the sentinels are full mentioned by the time of the 2nd demonic lord.

>not even a single lore connection
Besides all those parts where they directly reference Doom 1, 2, 64, and 3, yeah it has no connection

>doom slayer
what a fucking gay name

fuck nuid

If you actually payed attention to the lore in doom 4 the testament of the doom slayer says that doomguy got there in the first age of the first lord, long before the night sentinels were a thing.

Nudoomguy is a fucking pussy and his game is shit

Lijukuiji

You gotta remember this is the name the demons gave him.

>Doom 4 guy comes from a world where fighting against demons is the norm

That sounds pretty much like planet Earth, though

>where he was a member of night sentinels, knights in charge of defending his home world.

you do realize those are tales told in the style of those old "fantastic" legends where they over-exaggerate everything, right?

>you gotta gobble up Hugo Martin's tryhard fanfiction

So?
Im still waiting how is this in any way connected to Doom 64, name a single direct reference of location or time, anything.
Oh yeah, like the old texture levels?
There are fallout 4 ester eggs in it, does it mean its the same world too?

The Icon of Sin itself and this pic are the two big ones. It's clearly not the Praetor suit and it doesn't look like Night Sentinel armor. It looks like the standard marine armor from the originals, albeit with covered up arms and more armor around the legs. The strangest thing is that you can find a ripped up version of this picture somewhere in Doom 3. I'll try and find proof of this.

>burden of proof

consider this your last (You)

I was just browsing Youtube and found this. Actually interesting
youtube.com/watch?v=tC-2ZnPYVPs

There's also two Night Sentinels in their armour in the background showing Doomguy distinctly different from them.

The link between the NS and Doomguy isn't really clear, but the Slayer's Testament clearly states that he's been around since the first battle and could easily predate the NS.

photon torpedo to him while he's out in space will absolutely kill him
if he gets on board nobody will be able to stop him

Someone post Daisy's foot already

Alright you paw fetishist.

No-fun nerds throwing a fit in three, two, one...

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Why would people get mad at that? Daisy getting killed is a fact in Doom lore and not meant as a joke

because it basically proves "Doom Slayer" is, in fact, Doomguy, and "Doom Slayer" is just yet another nickname for him.

I like GS a lot more but it's obvious that Doomguy would win ffs

Doomguy requires no upgrades chips or that gay ass argent power.
Doomguy wins, ez.

>all those head canon cucks
You fucks are no better that those doctor Who Sherlock fangirls on tumblr.
Doom 4 is a reboot and thats it, stop making shit up., its one step from zelda timeline idiocy.

the backpack is an upgrade

>officially confirmed
>making shit up. We are having fun with lore and you are denying facts. so it seems you are the real shitter now

oof I did the meme arrow wrong

you want some cheese with your whine?

Officially confirmed by who, your dad who works at Nintendo?

UNF.

>Oh yeah, like the old texture levels?
No like the actual lore references to the games you faggot

Look at the thread closely swine. You will get your answer soon

>head canon
>literally confirmed in the fucking game
I don't think that means what you think it means.

It took like twelve minutes, but there's one already.

soon ™

One straight up ignored it and threw a fit when I said officially confirmed

thats a big gun

nudoom is garbage

heck you. ur taste is garbage

TAKE THAT BACK

No, it's not. The visual design is completely diifferent. A key part of the UNSC's visual design is having hard, geometric faces. Doomslayer's armor is far too organic and detail dense.

If I had to make a comparsion, it's closer to stuff in Gears of War.

This thread is a victory. Haters and lore deniers BTFO

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>lore
Fucking dark souls games have a more coherent lore than doom4.
It was such an afterthought it hurts.