I beat Nioh and feel that it's too easy. How hard is Bloodborne compare to this?

I beat Nioh and feel that it's too easy. How hard is Bloodborne compare to this?

From a guy who never play Soulborne.

inb4 Bloodborne platinum guy

Nioh was harder than BB

nioh is harder than bloodborne

in nioh bosses 2 shot you

I would say bloodborne will feel easier for you as the healing system is more generous in bb. BB has more variety and better environments though

Bloodborne's bosses are kind of hard to solo, but they're easy if you summon help.

Nioh was much harder than BB and has much better combat.

BB had a nicer atmosphere, less clutter and was a more involved experience.

Nioh was more fun, BB was a better experience

BB is one of my fav games of all time, but I found Nioh to be harder overall. not that it was more enjoyable with its PS2 tier environments and overall underwhelming aesthetic.

Also, BB bosses > Nioh bosses

Thinking of buying Nioh after finishing BB. The combat sistem is better? Will I understand the fucking story in this one?

Bloodborne is harder but if you're playing the Souls games for the difficulty you'll be disappointed with every one that isn't 3.

I used Axe build + sloth talismans and every boss and mob in this game is ridiculous easy to beat

I havent played Nioh, but BB is the easiest soulsgame on the market. But its also the best.

If you think Nioh was easy then bloodborne will be a cakewalk for you user. It's probably the easiest out of all the soulsborne games.

now give it another try on WotD
lmao

That holds true for just about any of from's games user. Nioh too.

OP knew exactly what he was doing when he made two fanbases clash like this. Well done sir.

Nioh is harder than all the souls games.

t. guy who thinks all souls games are better than Nioh. Nioh is still good though.

>I used Axe build + sloth talismans
>sloth talismans
no shit

>he beat the first difficulty

Congrats, you cleared the tutorial. Now start Way of the Strong.

stuck on wotd here.
thinking of respeccing into some op build to grind some gear

Souls games aren't hard. They're just built on trial and error. They're only difficult if you have no ability to recognise attack patterns, but that's more a personal issue than the game being hard.

Souls games being hard is just people taking ad copy for Dark Souls 1 and treating it like gospel.

>BB is the easiest soulsgame on the market
What fucking planet are you living on where Dark Souls 1 isn't the easiest by an absolute mile?

Hell DaS2 is easier than BB. So is DeS.

I disagree, nioh's strengths are combat mechanics and gear customization but environments? World design? No dude,
uninspired is the word. It's a shame for all the talent they had they couldn't find a musical talent either.

>permanent living weapon
thats not even cheesing compared to shit ninjutsu can pull off and you mean to tell me nioh is harder than bb? if anything theyre tied and once you get the game theyre medium diffculty .the catch is that bb got everything right and nioh only got the combat

As long as your Toughness is at least 200, you'll have a less frustrating time.

the levels themselves actually play great but they really are extremely boring to look at

I found demon's souls easier than dark souls 1. Maneaters and flamelurker are the only challenges. Everything else submits pretty fast.

On the planet earth. BB is the easiest. Deal with it. Sounds like you're just shit at games.

Buy a PS3 with Demon's Souls instead.

i've gone wrong somewhere and i don't do enough to damage to kill enemies at a reasonable pace.

the other day i spent 40 mins kiting 2 lvl 450 onyudos only to get one shotted.

Yeah, honestly it pays to start min/maxing before even finishing WotStr. Re-spec, use a koan manual also.

NioH gives you the tools to make some insane game breaking builds. Even when patched someone always fids the next best thing, its more RPG than soulsborne. Which hard caps everything at 50.

Not him but goddamn you're deluded

BB has the fastest, most aggressive enemies, and they all do pretty much the same damage to you, and no matter what you HAVE to beat them through skill alone. You memorize their moves, dodge them, and attack when the time is right.

You can't fucking build your way out of Bloodborne. Meanwhile in Dark Souls you can pick Sorcerer, level strength to 16, and boom you have infinite magic missiles that oneshot most things in the first half of the game and allow you to assault bosses from afar while also having the most broken overpowered melee weapon in the game.

Not to mention you can cower behind a shield all day or equip armor that makes you able to take 11 hits from almost anything before you die.

You can't fucking do this kind of shit to Lady Maria.

i think most of us classify demon's souls as harder because it was out first game.

consider that aside from flamelurker there aren't really any bosses or enemies that requite a lot of agility and reflexes on the players part. most of them just have a trick to it and when you learn it, they become ez as fuck.

Dark Souls 2 and 3 are the hardest Souls games because they're so offensively bad, it's hard to keep the will to play them.

Bloodborne may be harder in some aspects, like the fact you cant reset your build nor customize your gear in detail

And BB is also the easiest, because enemy placement is a joke most of the time and you can literally stun 95% of enemies with pure ease. And most bosses are "jump to the left" tier.
You either never learned to parry, or you are just that much of an idiot. BB is widely regarded the easiest souls game. Even reddit gets that much.
Apply yourself.

hm, yeah, might do that.
i was kinda hoping i wouldn't have to min/max and i'd be able to just flip to whatever armor/weapon/skill sets i want to whenever.

but with the amount of respec books there are that's not really an issue i guess.

I just finished DS3 for the second time and have beat all the dark souls games twice. I played bloodborne up until after the blood starved beast but just found it really boring, jerky and jaggies out the ass.

Is anyone able to convince me to play it or should I just go back to ds1 again?

>You can't fucking do this kind of shit to Lady Maria.
No but you can shoot her easily and then go for the visceral. Something you should've learned by the time you reach the first boss.
Is Sup Forums really this bad at videogames?

BB has ranged parries, automatic health regen on attacking and you can stunlock mobs for days, your argument is invalid

thats not exclusive to bb tho,pick up ds2 rapier(from literally majula first area of the game) and stunlock most of the game

Getting parries requires a modicum of timing unlike winning in Dark Souls, also she's insanely fast and aggressive and has way more range than most DaS bosses.

Call me when you can hold L1 to win against her with zero effort.

dark souls 3 is shit and piss easy

buddy, it's two different kinds of mitigation, but once you're comfortable with the risk, the end result is similar. Dark souls -- strong defense allows you to lower incoming damage. Bloodborne, open up your face and shoot a few times with the +200 health back vsiceral rune equipped and behold, any health you lost fishing for the parry has returned!

I will grant you that bloodborne bosses up the ante by changing phases, which dark souls didn't start doing until 3. But still, Lady Maria with the above strategy didn't take me more than an hour my first time through

>more than an hour
I've never spent more than 7 minutes on a Dark Souls boss because of how much broken shit is in that game.

Also the very fact that there -is- risk period in Bloodborne to me means it's harder. You can be a fucking ninja flipping 1200 health infinite endurance heaviest armor in the game magic missile spamming zweihander monster in Dark Souls, there's just no fucking equivalent to how broken that is in Bloodborne.

try beating nioh on way of the nioh

>can be a fucking ninja flipping 1200 health infinite endurance heaviest armor in the game magic missile spamming zweihander monster
Bloodborne is incredible generous with its dodges/stamina consumption. You already get the ninja flipping infinite endurance by default.

Yes but they expect you to use them on enemies that actually test that power.

Dark Souls meanwhile has enemies so fucking slow and braindead 90% of their moves allow you to walk, not even sprint behind them for a free backstab.

If you found Nioh too easy, you probably beat the game using one of the many exploits in the mechanics to full affect. So you might have a harder time with Bloodborne as you more or less have to build into those for endgame. But overall it won't be anything you can't handle.

t. stopped after finishing the main story once

>beat the game using one of the many exploits
I bet you consider the sloth talisman an exploit don't you.

Demon Souls had way more generous ways to cheese things.

>Oh its the Tower Knight/Flamelurker giving you trouble? Well here's the Crescent Falchion just steps away!

Hell yeah it is. And chaining that with chaos stacks was how I beat the game.

Bloodborne only has two difficult bosses. Orphan of Kos and Laurence. Visceral damage is insanely high and the parry window is way more generous than people think. You can literally sweep the game with saw spear, hunter pistol and beast blood pellets.

I found DeS to be harder. Probably because you can be a speedyfag in BB and get by with quick reactions whereas DeS punished my impatience grievously.

it might be a stupidly OP item but it's not an exploit m8

And they only last seconds on higher difficulties so they are almost worthless there, but I don't think you played that far.

>play on non-baby difficulty
>sloth does nothing

Oops

this. investing on sloth is a trap

Not really. I beat New Game + and then realized the game was boring so I stopped.

It depends on which part of each game you're comparing.
Bloodborn starts hard, gradually gets easier, and then suddenly gets harder after beating a mid game boss.
Nioh starts hard but once you get to a certain character level and get better weapons/armor it becomes easy as fuck and remains easy.
The Old Hunter is hard from start to finish and is harder than Nioh imo.

It's definitely worth it to plow through NG the first time so you can start getting divines but yeah. Respec that shit asap after.

>suddenly gets harder

Didn't happen to me in BB. Second half bosses were a joke. Actually made me sad.

>invest in sloth
>get all the reputation points from killing every boss without getting hit
>get an extra 10 ki, 100hp, whatever else

How to do make DS2 easy mode?

High Int/Fth Hexer with a washing pole. There's like maybe two things ever that resist Hex.

Thanks mate

Nioh is more like a traditional action combat game so if you're not familiar with Souls combat it's possible you will find Nioh easier due to controls. Also, Bloodborne has more than five enemies. However, it's not the hardest game ever and might be easier for you than Nioh, depending. The appeal of these games is the overall package of which a decent level of difficulty is only a part of the equation. If you want to play these games for difficulty you have to use self-imposed challenges.

Nioh is harder then Bloodborne unless you run a items/magic build and then its probably about the same. Anything past NG is easily harder in Nioh though.

I think NG Nioh is alittle easy but Bloodborne outside of the DLC is easier and if we wanna play that card the Nioh DLCs are much harder then Orphan/Ludwig who Date Masamune makes short work of.

Either way both are great games but don't expect much of a challenge if you think Nioh was easy from BB.

>Nerf living weapon build nonsense.
>Never go after Sloth Talismans

Its like they wanted babies to have that fall back option just in case. Running sloth is like running Havels with a black knight weapon in DaS1 it completely trivializes 99% of the game and makes you wonder what they were thinking.

>Laurence
I remember taking 10 plus tries on him alone on my crappy side character I first did the DLC with. I think 2 tries on my good build. Super scary the first few times but after that only hardish because of insane damage/run from phase 2 because he tries to stun lock you.

Laurence is a awful boss but fuck he will always stick in my mind for his godlike ost and for the fact they made a boss lose his legs and become more threatening.

Sloth is worthless and a waste of onmyo capacity on ng+

Claiming sloth breaks the game is a sure way to spot someone who hasn't played the game or quit very early on.

>Get to NG+2
>Drops from bosses/enemies barely increase my damage and everything is sponging.

What is the quick fix to this? Do I go into the abyss at this point? Also are drops qued to be at your/around your level? That could be it since I'm barely 200 so areas won't yield the level 300-400 items id expect.

user i'm talking about NG since most shitters will never go past NG. I beat shit on NG+ and got half way through NG++ before I stopped due to disliking the grind for better gear. Nioh is amazing though.

But as for NG Sloth definitely lets shitters get through the cracks who should get stomped. I ran pure physical with minimal items for the longest time before using some Ninja shit.

>Bloodborne has more then 5 enemies.
Its a real shame Nioh lacked enemy diversity. Hell they only use a few of the enemies in a few places throughout the game making it worse. But the enemies atleast have 5-7 moves each where as BB has some literal reskins and most enemies have 1-2 moves max that aren't bosses.

Still when it comes to non bosses ill take 1-2 moves with less repetition.

>Nioh is amazing though.

It really isn't. Because it's just a Diablo looting Souls knockoff in the end.

>Diablo looting Souls knockoff
Doesn't sound like a bad thing at all friendo.

You can't get away with frankenstein hodgepodge sets at this point. Gotta run a dedicated build and armor set bonus and farm divine weapons until you can get in dat abyss.

At that point you need to start stacking damage bonusses, for example from set item bonus, or from stats like + x% fire damage on your charms, change to attack (stat) on your weapon, bonus damage from familiarity on your weapon, etc