Are you going to play it?

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

Are you going to play it?

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Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

If they don't ruin it. So no.

Nathaniel Thomas
Nathaniel Thomas

If it comes out before Fall

James Wood
James Wood

I'll try it, but i doubt it will be good because:
1. the sense of freshness/mystery is gone because everyone has already done everything and explored everything
2. community is dead
3. players are way more experienced now, so content will last a fraction of the period of time
4. fucking, grinding.
5. people don't admit it, but blizzard has really improved gameplay mechanics over the years. old raid's were hard but simpler. new raid's have 10 billion different things going on with cool gimmicky mechanics.
6. questing experince back then is dogshit compared to now. quests now a days are so much more entertings then bullshit like, "bring me 30 zebra hooves that have a 20% drop rate."

Angel Peterson
Angel Peterson

it wont. they announced it before they even had a team put together to build it. It will likely be 2 years before it comes out.

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

The announced this way too early, hype is already nearly dead. I'll probably still play it but like fuck man, they should've waited more to announce it.

Jaxson Hall
Jaxson Hall

nah. they will hype up the train again once they are getting close to release, announcing it this early is just to shut all those fucking nostril fags up and make them happy so they don't forever hate blizzard.

Parker Foster
Parker Foster

I probably not remember Shamans being braindead as fuck back then.
"BUT THE ONE SHOTS."
Man I know and its what attracted me to the class in the first place but, thinking back on it that shit was fuckin boring as fuck and Shaman on retail is so much better off then it was in the past.

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

2020 lets go

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans

Plenty of freshness and mystery going back to pre cata days user

can confirm I played those garbage private servers and fucking loved it

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

Why do people gloss over vanilla so much, was it that good?

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

I have kinda burned myself out on private servers but i want to see how classic plays out and i am a fresh start junky so yeah.

The game is a lot different compared to what it was, back when everything was new people took the time leveling up, it wasnt uncommon to take 3-4 months to hit 60 and no one really blamed you. Low lvl gank groups would run up and down roads and low lvl pvp would happen in zones with people advertising looking for groups for pvp in ashenvale etc. People took the time getting new gear making sure everything was up to date every 2 levels or so, need new shoulders and armor? go mine copper for a few hours then craft them yourself, grats your gear is up to date for a level 24 now time to gank shitters in ashenvale. Want to test your pvp skills before fighting the enemy faction? go outside the capital because people of all levels are dueling. It was a world you experienced, It was magical.

Nowdays, everyone wants to lvl up asap, 2 weeks is considered average 3 is slow. Keeping your gear up to date or doing professions before 60 is considered a waste of time as is anything else that is not high xp per hour. The game has been figured out and everyone just wants to win it rather than explore and experience it.

Chase Robinson
Chase Robinson

No, I played daily for 70% of classic. I have done my time in classic. More than half the speccs in the game are useless and the difficulty boils down to the numbers are heavily stacked against you.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

No it's going to be rebalanced shit that takes at least another year to release

Isaac James
Isaac James

protip every class except for rogue and meme druid specs in pvp are borring as fuck, its vanilla thats the name of the game.

Jack Diaz
Jack Diaz

it won't last long though. EX: if you played way back in the day, their was a ingame book written by nat pagle that had only the last page in it. every other page was missing. The last page ended with, "... and so that's where you'll find the legendary sword of the Scarlet Highlord, Ashbringer. Ain't it amazin' what you run into in an ordinary day of fishin'?"

This caused a huge firestorm in the hardcore community and everyone went apeshit and started spending countless hours fishing all over the world trying to find the ashbringer.

Point is back then the game was uncharted, quests weren't straightford as you didn't know where to go, bosses were like shooting in the dark because you didn't know what mechanics they had until they actually did them and fucked you.

Andrew Lewis
Andrew Lewis

1. agree
2. oldfags already coming back. new communities can grow.
3. agree. up to blizzard to buff content and add additional after nax or go tbc
4. vanilla grind is normal levels of grinding. only a casual panda baby would complain about it. even legion has vanilla tier grinding with legendaries and artefact power.
5. oh hell no. none of these flashy legion mechanics matter. even in mythic you stand in some shity and still survive. vanilla puts the raid into raids. legion pve is just a minigame.
6. average redditor argument that has never played vanilla. the worlds feels so alive, dangerous and open, the quest objective doesn't matter that much.also makes non linear grind quests more special and rewarding. in legion the quest objective matters because the world is dead, shallow and feels like a single player game.
basically blizzard ruined wow by listening to clueless adhd babies like you

Grayson Richardson
Grayson Richardson

They should try a progressive server - 6 months of WoW vanilla then 3 months for each expansion afterwards

Julian Lewis
Julian Lewis

People have been begging for this shit for nearly ten fucking years when it's been proven time and time again that no one but the most hardcore of autists are willing to put up with it's bullshit
I'm going to laugh when this crap comes out and it fails because you nostalgiafaggots don't realize how selective memory works.

Bentley Reed
Bentley Reed

How are they going to get people to leave private vanilla servers , besides just taking down said vanilla servers?

That would probably cause a backlash and have people boycott WoW Classic.

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

FPBP

Jace White
Jace White

People are sick of private classic servers based in russia/asia (200+ ping delay on all actions), with corrupt admins banning you and giving their friends tons of gold, and servers that get shut down after a few months because they tried to do something to make money off that shit or got sued by blizzard

Carter Gray
Carter Gray

the worlds feels so alive, dangerous and open, the quest objective doesn't matter that
How have people not figured this out about Vanilla? Did they first experience it on a PvE server, if at all? The best part about questing was the sense that there was more to worry about than just going from point A, grind in point B, and return to point A. It was about the adventure of fighting off intruders of the opposing factions, even grouping up with others to complete your objective or remove your enemies from the field to regain dominance. Shit was the whole magic of questing in Vanilla.

Logan Ward
Logan Ward

1. most people never even experienced more than 50% of post 50 classic content
2. hopefully it will be brought back, and hopefully won't turn into the kind of reddit and /vg/ BiS for MC shitfest we see on private servers
3. that's a non-point, MC can be cleared easily but the other 40m require both coordination and gear and Naxx and AQ40 are tuned in such a way that the last few bosses of AQ40 and half of Naxx will take weeks if not months to clear since muscle memory plays a much smaller role than in current WoW
4. there is no grind in WoW even in classic
5. they turned an MMO RPG into an ARPG so compartementalized that in raids 90% of the time you can only focus on your rotation and dodging the big red circle, I utterly disagree with you on that point
6. wrong, classic had zone-long quest-chains that were really good and even 30 bear asses quests of then are less forgettable than the trash we get since WotLK

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

No one said anything about private servers. I'm talking about legitimate games that were released for the Vanilla WoW crowd that crashed and burned so badly they either shut down completely or were forced to go F2P/P2W because the Vanilla WoW crowd is nothing more than a fat black woman in a beauty salon.

Logan Morgan
Logan Morgan

You mean like Rift that had reasonable success until Trion turned it into a P2W cash cow, or like Wildstar that literally missed the mark on everything that made classic and TBC great ?

Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

thats just a meme. the only really useless spec is moonkin but that can be good for world pvp when u get gear.

Joseph Flores
Joseph Flores

of course. gotta remake my shockadin

Liam Reed
Liam Reed

I'm talking about legitimate games that were released for the Vanilla WoW crowd
Name some.

Ryder Long
Ryder Long

As long as they don't fuck it up(make too big changes) I definitely will.

Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

i'll probably forget about it by the comes it out sometime in 2023.

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

6. wrong, classic had zone-long quest-chains that were really good and even 30 bear asses quests of then are less forgettable than the trash we get since WotLK

Cata's revamped old world quest lines > Vanilla quest lines. There are some exceptions, but as a whole Cata's revamp made the old world infinitely better, making it so you actually knew where the fuck to go next and not having to deal with stupid shit like "Oh I'll walk here to talk to this guy so I can go half way around the world to talk to this guy so I can go back to this guy on the other continent and turn it in at a zone ten levels higher than me that has no quests available until I reach level X and complete quest chain Y"

Anthony Watson
Anthony Watson

complaining about grinding in MMO

Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell

or like Wildstar that literally missed the mark on everything that made classic and TBC great ?
Like what? I played Vanilla and TBC, and I'd hardly call either of them great in any respect. Especially Vanilla, it was a fucking mess of useless specs, talents, gear, and stats, and while they eventually fixed some of that shit going into TBC, TBC had it's own issues. If you try to claim community then you're a fucking idiot, because community is only a thing when people actually play the game enough to care about it and Blizzard had that in spades thanks to fanboys of the Warcraft SRPGs.

Hudson Collins
Hudson Collins

autohit simulator
no lol
i quit legion because of shit class design why would i play a game with even worse class design

John Johnson
John Johnson

announce it
dont mention it ever again until blizzcon 2021
nobody cares anymore by then
"see? you thought you did but you didn't!"

Ayden King
Ayden King

Duuude, one button press every 10 seconds! Exciting gameplay, man!

Nolan Kelly
Nolan Kelly

2 weeks is considered average if you're counting played time only. You're talking so much out of your ass it's sad.

Austin Nelson
Austin Nelson

was their first mmo

it was good at the time

objectively, it is trash now

Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

I'll play it to level cap and probably not much else

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

fpbp

Robert Mitchell
Robert Mitchell

ok then you didn't play vanilla and just parot the garbage retards who didn't play classic parrot on reddit and MMOC

Like what?
they thought that what people liked about TBC and Vanilla were muscle memory based bossfights where one mistake by one person would wipe the entire group.

Ethan Lee
Ethan Lee

objectively

Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

I played vanilla here were some of it's major issues
No you didn't you're just parrotting everyone else!
You're a fucking idiot.

Juan Phillips
Juan Phillips

Played
Playing it now
Will play it

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.
"events should be reported objectively"

that is to say, being objective and not a rose tinted glasses fan boy

Justin Cox
Justin Cox

But that's the whole point. You're not supposed to know where to go.

Easton White
Easton White

Fuck i did not noticed the Classic thing on OP's pics but still gonna play when it comes out

Gabriel Russell
Gabriel Russell

new raid's have 10 billion different things going on with cool gimmicky mechanics.

KJ which took so long to kill entirely revolved standing in circles. You're retarded.

Jack Jones
Jack Jones

You're objectively wrong though.

Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

Grinding can be done in interesting way like they did with AP
In vanilla it was primitive

Asher Torres
Asher Torres

Will they bring the ugly models back?

Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

explain why

Dominic Morgan
Dominic Morgan

Think you might have brain damage, seek help.

Anthony Morales
Anthony Morales

it was good at the time
It was shit then, shit now, and it'll be shit when retail vanilla servers are released. The only reason anyone cared for it was that it was new and exciting and didn't require as much of a grind as the other games of it's time.
You're not supposed to know where to go.
I come to Sup Forums and I think to myself, surely I'll never read something as stupid as I did the last time I was here, and yet people like you show up and prove me wrong every single time.

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

He did not raid Coven higher then normal
KJ is trash compared to them btw he was easier then most of ToS bosses

Luke Williams
Luke Williams

Quest to go from point A to point B and talk to an NPC
Classic: Quest takes an hour+ to complete for a casual as it requires going to the opposite side of the world with only a vague description and a name.
Cata: Quest takes 10 minutes to complete for a casual as you're given a portal or flight to that area with a giant marker above the npc.

Other than padding out the subscription times, the reason they put those quests in was to make the world feel more like an actual world, rather than a theme park.
While traveling to point B you could encounter all kinds of shit, whether it's someone wanting to group for a dungeon, some random PvP, another player in need of help or even just shooting the shit with your guild.

Asher Carter
Asher Carter

there was no useless spec in Vanilla

Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

Anime Sylvannas
I wish people would learn how to properly draw and not default to that stupid fucking manga style.

Leo Bailey
Leo Bailey

I already played Vanilla and I'm not interested in playing it again.

Owen Ross
Owen Ross

I miss the old Nathanos

Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith

Talk about irony when you do not understand why not having an arrow point you to where you have to go immediately (having inconvenience) in an RPG is good for the game. Apply yourself, you retard.

Nathaniel Morgan
Nathaniel Morgan

in legion the quest objective matters because the world is dead
There was never a situation when i would do a WQ and not fight some horde or met some AL and im on medium populated server

Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

But anime makes everything better
Western girls all have ugly manjaws
Also answer the question

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

I'm going to assume that you carry the same laundry list of stupid bullshit ever other kid likes to drop when discussing this.

Grind
Rogues and / or PvP
40 man dungeons

Not everyone dislikes grinding. In-fact most people that actually enjoy MMOs enjoy grinding. Shocker, right?

Rogues were fine for the same reason PvP was fine. PvP was designed around group combat and not duels. 1v1 Rogue normally wins. 2v2 rogue can no longer stunlock effectively, as most classes can tear them apart. Because they're squishy. Every class had a dilemma such as this.

40 man raids were perfectly fine considering 10 or fewer people normally did 80% of the work.

Adam Collins
Adam Collins

40 man raids were perfectly fine considering 10 or fewer people normally did 80% of the work.
meh not really especially on the DPS check gatekeepers

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

Classic: Quest takes an hour+ to complete for a casual as it requires going to the opposite side of the world with only a vague description and a name.
This is a fucking lie and you know it. The quests didn't take hours to complete because minimal quest text, it took hours to complete because mounts, and the skills required to ride them costed a fortune and flying to and from the required NPCs took a fucking lifetime and a half.
t. Never played vanilla

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

I dare you to name one useless spec and I'll literally prove you wrong in the lapse of time I need to see your post and type a reply

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

Questing in Vanilla was better because I had to install an addon to know where the fuck to go rather than having it already implemented
Commit suicide. You are too stupid to live.

Jason White
Jason White

the druid water form quest would not be terribly faster even with 100% ground mount and current flight paths

Hunter Hernandez
Hunter Hernandez

There's no shortage of DPS on any server ever and you can gear them with world loot. If you're past MC you can gear them with MC loot etc.

Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

Post a useless spec.

Dominic Rivera
Dominic Rivera

Any alliance warlock.

Caleb Walker
Caleb Walker

Warlock's the most broken class in the entire game once they get to R13/T2 levels of gear and having wotf only makes it slightly worse for alliance warlocks.

Caleb Bailey
Caleb Bailey

current content Vael, Patchwerk or even Uhuran needed a bit more than randoms pîcked up the day before in random MC gear

John Young
John Young

wrong

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

You could gear a DPS in one or two week's worth of farm status shit.

Dylan Smith
Dylan Smith

explain why

Jason Jenkins
Jason Jenkins

Prot/Ret Paladin
Feral/Balance Druid
Disc Priest
Survival/Beast Mastery Hunters
Frost/Arcane Mage. Frost was only viable in MC.
Rogue in general
Elemental/Enhancement Shaman

inb4 "B-b-b-but PvP!" PvP was a fucking unbalanced mess.

Cooper Sanchez
Cooper Sanchez

Nah, too much of a timesink. I had some good times in vanilla but it's time to let it go.

Jayden Cox
Jayden Cox

If they're not the main tanking or top DPS then they're useless

And that's why you never cleared anything in vanilla

Anthony Sullivan
Anthony Sullivan

No?

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

he thinks you can get a full tier or fire resist set in 2 weeks with a 40-man raid's worth of people competing
no

Justin Butler
Justin Butler

Any non-healing hybrd. Drod actualy so useless in PvE it exsists only for MoW Innervate CR and to dump useless drood gear into.

Jason Sullivan
Jason Sullivan

Making baseless claims because he knows he can't refute decades old facts
Sasuga Sup Forums.

Jeremiah Mitchell
Jeremiah Mitchell

These specs are only useless if you remove a huge section of the game where they're top tier or ignore that they're 100% viable, just not peak performance

People like you are why WoW is in the toilet right now.

Isaac Phillips
Isaac Phillips

Back when I was raiding AQ40 (server first full clear) we had a guy that rolled alliance just to raid with us. He was geared in a week and clearing AQ with us the next.

They're not facts though. You don't need 40 people with perfect specs to clear in vanilla.

Hudson Watson
Hudson Watson

Fun fact: They were useless in PvP too.

Zachary Perez
Zachary Perez

Ignores the reasoning for time sink.
"You're wrong because there was a different time sink!"
user it's okay to admit you enjoy theme parks and instant gratification.

Isaiah James
Isaiah James

Say something stupid
Get proven wrong
"I'm not wrong, you just like instant gratification!"

Adrian Long
Adrian Long

Feral bear is good, cat is okay, feral in general is good in pvp, balance (not moonkin) is good in pvp. Resto is good for PvE. Prot paladin is the only worthless spec and even then it has its uses like tanking undead instances.

Justin Turner
Justin Turner

Prot/Ret Paladin
Prot paladin was better at tanking adds than warrior, especially in Naxx, and had better burst threat generation before the seal of the righteous removal, ret Paladin was not useless at all and was even a middle of the pack DPS.

Feral/Balance Druid
Feral tank was a niche pick but worked better than warrior on some encounters notably in the 20m raids, Feral dps was fine and was a good addition to a melee group; balance was mostly PvP focused and worked pretty well at that.

Disc Priest
not having one priest going 31 disc in your raid

Survival/Beast Mastery Hunters
Surv was useless before the rework but worked fine after, was great for on the fly CC and kiting, BM was all around good, don't know why you say it's useless.

Frost/Arcane Mage
Frost was the normal mandatory spec until you were geared enough to go 31 arcane which was the top damage spec in BWL and most guilds had a full frost mage, generally the least geared, to stack that buff that increased frost damage so that the other Arcane/Frost mages would deal more damage

Rogue in general
literally the best PvE dps and cunt destroyers in PvP

Elemental/Enhancement Shaman
like ret, middle of the pack, both specs worked in PvE and PvP

inb4 "B-b-b-but PvP!" PvP was a fucking unbalanced mess.
PvP was an integral part of the game that people grinded non stop for weeks.

ignoring the fact that AQ40 had 2 ketchup raids and besides Cthun and Ouro was much easier than BWL or Naxx

Tyler Gonzalez
Tyler Gonzalez

so what do you people think about vanilla class design? i can see how some stuff in vanilla could be fun but the classes just play like ass
how do you enjoy anything if you mostly press one button and wait for autoattacks?

Logan Perez
Logan Perez

MC

Buy DPS world loot, they're geared

BWL

You have Ony , world bosses and MC on farm. Give loot to DPS. They're geared in a week or two

AQ

See above.

It's not that hard.

Colton Ward
Colton Ward

No one is saying you did retard. You wanted to know what specs were useless/unwanted in comparison to others and I told you.

Chase Morgan
Chase Morgan

offered more variety and choice except for mages
, was overall more enjoyable and had a better sense of progression

maybe if you're an RNG god with the luck of the devil and your guild shat money

Levi Campbell
Levi Campbell

Cata: Things are 'steamlined', completed nigh instantly as you reach them.
Classic: Things are more spread out, completed over a longer period of time.
One of these allows for spontainious events to form like i mentioned earlier, random pvp, someone trying to start a dungeon or simply talking in guild chat.

Refute this.

Logan Foster
Logan Foster

The only ones you listed that were useless in PvP are ele and prot pallies.

Owen Long
Owen Long

Maybe for a nostalgia trip but not seriously or for any decent length of time.

Asher Green
Asher Green

But they're not useless. You're probably never going to have a perfect raid in vanilla unless you have the absolute pick of the litter.

Any guild could pool gold. That's not hard. And you'd have to get pretty unlucky to not get enough drops in a few weeks.

Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

ele
useless in PvP

Matthew King
Matthew King

Hey guys, we're going back on our DECADE OF LIES about this being impossible, banilla soon!
here's a cinematic! based shortstack!!!
"So give us some details, how are you going to do this?"
uhhh idk we're in the early stages, asking big questions, also crowdsourcing what changes people want to see
now you're NEVER GOING TO HEAR FROM US AGAIN

Fuck Blizzard. Classic is dead on arrival. Faggots.

Landon Jones
Landon Jones

agruments

Isaiah Young
Isaiah Young

Excuse my ignorance I don't know shit about shammies honestly, makes my point even more valid though.

Mason Cox
Mason Cox

also crowdsourcing what changes people want to see

They're not doing that though, they're going to be asking for feedback on shit like what patch to start at. They're not asking for feedback on what to "change" about Vanilla.

Gavin Bailey
Gavin Bailey

i dont really see the variety or choices in waiting for autohits
how was it overall more enjoyable? i really dont see how it can be fun to be halfafk most of the time
catabab here btw

Daniel Stewart
Daniel Stewart

You're joking right? You have 3-4 drops of loot in BWL per boss and 40 people in a raid and half of those are tier which are worthless. You can have runs where you disenchant 80% of the loot because it's trash.

Nicholas Morgan
Nicholas Morgan

i dont really see the variety or choices in waiting for autohits
are you that lazy peon guy who commplains every time an MMO isn't about mashing buttons ?

The switch from Autoattack to spamming a GCD filler on all melee classes is what killed WoW for me.

Carter Foster
Carter Foster

Is this the new duke nukem / HL3?

Hudson Martinez
Hudson Martinez

Thats why i specidifed fucking PvE
Feral deeps
Works only with full inventory of gnomer maces and reshifting abuse which is retarded anyway and falls hard after BWL
Feral tank
Can be used, but only 1 and mainly for utility
Resto drood
Absolutely wortheless, but you need to give gear to someone and have CR on non-tanking drood.
Prot Ret
Both are complete and utter meme shit.

I absolutely fucking love retbomb and can appreciate hybrid resto.ferals in pvp, but it doesnt change fact that those specs are garbage in PvE and and need to be carried.

Samuel Gray
Samuel Gray

more like Black Mesa really

Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

not that guy
i guess we are just different then
spamming buttons is what made the game fun for me
vanilla feels way too slow for me

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

that's because you have autism and don't like RPGs

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

It doesn't fall after BWL. Only after you're decked out in AQ gear. How is it relevant that you only use one? It's still a very good spec.

It's good you specified PvE when the game's not all about 40 man PvE content. Every spec has a place except like moonkin (though balance is viable in PvP) and Prot paladin (which is still a good dungeon/farming spec). Not everything has to be viable in 40 man raids, that's the whole point of the game. Most hybrids have a spec they can use in 40 man raids without being a liability.

Oliver Perez
Oliver Perez

probably not, if it had come out a year or two ago i probably would've played it for a few months, but legion burnt me out on WoW so hard it's not even funny.

Jeremiah Garcia
Jeremiah Garcia

They're not asking for feedback on what to "change" about Vanilla.
I hope you're right.

I'd vote for starting from the very beginning and adding the rest later, so world events can happen.

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

Yes.

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

youtube.com/watch?v=k1t0A1cqGcw

Henry Ortiz
Henry Ortiz

Maybe will try for autism sake, only if it's gonna be free.

Jack Thompson
Jack Thompson

probably

Kevin Nguyen
Kevin Nguyen

40m is not a focus
Its still a focus, just not so prevalent as in post TBC era. And 40m raids, even overmemed "impossible" c'tun and naxx can be absolutely cleared with suboptimal comps. This is actually best thing about vanilla. That community matters most and its possible to make a raid of people you like, not specs they play unlike modern wow where splitrunning and class stacking is a must.

However, if you go straight from the point of effectiveness and preformance, you want to avoid taking any rets or too many hunters/sps like plague.

Austin Long
Austin Long

brain damage
agruments
checks out

William Flores
William Flores

I'm not sure who this will appeal to. Everyone who played back in the day mostly has real life obligations now and playing original WoW was practically a full time job.

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

Probably not.

Carter Davis
Carter Davis

I doubt it. It's very obvious we are not going to get classic. I was optimistic for a couple days, but after seeing all of the bullshit on the forums, I knew it will never happen. Even the people who claim to support vanilla would not be able to handle it; they're too pampered the private realm tuning and everything they know about vanilla is simply incorrect.

Joshua Russell
Joshua Russell

If we get authentic Vanilla I will play no other game for a year or more

Hunter Smith
Hunter Smith

I'm gonna play priest and have the time of my life

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

Sure, but what patch is the big question. Do we start with 1.7 with the increased debuff slot? 1.1 and go through the patches or do it like nostalrious did with starting at 1.12 and slowly release content? I'd say the latter.

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

1.12.1 with re tuned PVE content is the best way to do it I think

1.12.1 talents make classes very powerful compared to the launch of Vanilla wow so they need to do some re tuning

Jaxon Cox
Jaxon Cox

going to enjoy playing vanilla again while everyone else argues on the forums about the merits of nostalgia
Who else looking forward to maximum comfyness?

Hudson Williams
Hudson Williams

Current wow is actually worse. Back in the day you raided, farmed your consumables and then you were done for the week. Now you have to run mythic+ 24/7 between mythic raids or you fall behind.

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

After the Nostralius shut down I am surprised people still use the nostalgia argument.

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

I have friends that want to play Vanilla to experience the story. They don't want to play new WoW because it doesnt really follow after Warcraft 3.

Grayson Baker
Grayson Baker

For people who want to lmmerse into actual MMORPG. Shocking, I know.

Jacob Price
Jacob Price

Yeah, i'll give it a try 100%.

Justin White
Justin White

Grinding can be done in interesting way like they did with AP

O shit you must be retarded

Jaxon Morris
Jaxon Morris

It also took 2 months of soul-crushing unfun gameplay to get to the point where you could do that in vanilla and M+ is legitimate endgame content as opposed to something that's a stepping stone that you never go back to once you're doing with it.

Jordan Barnes
Jordan Barnes

This.

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

M+ is legitimate endgame content
How fun it was running thousands of MoS carries for months?

Blake Garcia
Blake Garcia

More fun than I ever had leveling in vanilla, that's for fucking sure, and I always had the option to push a higher level M+ instead of grinding babby mode.

Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

you have no right to call anyone babby mode while playing retail wow

LFR exists in retail, you get a % dmg/hp buff when you wipe FFS!

Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

Anyone excited about buying leveling boosts and wow tokens?

Jayden Thomas
Jayden Thomas

Why do people keep spreading the 2 years meme? It takes 2 years to build an mmo from fucking scratch

Lucas Cooper
Lucas Cooper

the sad truth is WoW set back mmos by more than 2 decades

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

If classic is really two years away then Blizzard are the biggest idiots in the world announcing it so early

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

LFR
good for anything but trolling

Matthew Smith
Matthew Smith

I'd sooner get into OSRS mobile

Daniel Walker
Daniel Walker

LFR should be normal mode with damage/hp buffs so at least you can wipe on
every boss

Charles Cook
Charles Cook

Yeah there is no reason for LFR to exist when normal is so easy

Matthew Gray
Matthew Gray

push a higher level M+
Literally for what purpose? On 10+ it took ages to kill mobs and ap/hour plummeted. Gear levels was also capped on low difficulties in addition to lolforged to punish good players.

Robert Scott
Robert Scott

The same reason you did heroic instead of normal. It's a hell of a lot more fun when you're actually being challenged.

Dominic Thomas
Dominic Thomas

that's bullshit

back when Legion launched no one bothered with very high keys, it was not worth the time

The Maw of Souls grind at the start of legion was the 100 times worse than Vanilla leveling, Vanilla was called a casual MMO when it first launched!

David Reed
David Reed

Only if they change many things in the game; classic was in many ways boring and severely flawed.

Way too much time spent doing fucking nothing.

Jaxon James
Jaxon James

Probably not. I've already played it and WoW after the first time is really choring. Maybe if they make some balance changes and add content, but we are talking of nu-blizz, if they try that it will be shit.

David Ross
David Ross

stick to weeb MMO's please

don't want anime fags shitting up classic

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

the only bad thing about normal is you always need dumb requirements like 940 and aotc for a pug group lmao

William Johnson
William Johnson

Stick to Reddit please. Don't want dumb phoneposters shitting up Sup Forums.

Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter

I'd like to go from 1.1 to 1.12, since the way classes changed even just through vanilla is interesting and I want to experience it again.

Eli Parker
Eli Parker

no, i grinded to rank 14 back in 2007 for 4 endless sleep-deprived months, it hurts to even think about starting all over again

Noah Lewis
Noah Lewis

I am going to let it absolutely destroy my life, in the way that private servers or r*tail w*w wouldnt even compare to.

Brandon Watson
Brandon Watson

We're going to have a ridiculous amount of forum posts where people are screaming that the same spec that they played in say, Battle for Azeroth, is absolute dogshit in classic. And they'll get what they want. Unless Blizzard makes a rule that's essentially "If it's not in Classic era patch notes, it won't be in the game."

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

Yes. I'm going to roll a Lock or a Rogue.

Thomas Gonzalez
Thomas Gonzalez

Ill never pay 20 dollars monthly to play just 1 game

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

I used to think that but some of the classes will be so bad in 1.1 that most people won't even bother playing them.

John Green
John Green

Guys we already are halfway through the thread post some draenei porn for fuck sake

Aiden Allen
Aiden Allen

space goats aren't vanilla

Jaxon Bennett
Jaxon Bennett

Am I cute? Uguu~

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

I never understood how those things became hot space goats with dicks

Aaron Gomez
Aaron Gomez

I think it's still important that a new wave of people sees how the classes started and evolved as time went on, (in my opinion) peaking in MoP before devolving to shit in the next two expansions.

Oliver Allen
Oliver Allen

hey we're adding a hot race for the ugly faction, why not add an ugly race for the pretty one?
nah bullshit, we need more manchildren who think with their dicks paying our sub, retcon it so every single draenei encountered since WCIII is "broken" or some shit

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

Because hot space goats with dicks.

Kevin Parker
Kevin Parker

WoW "classic" takes place in a different timeline
all the new races are available at character creation
Would you still play it?

Nicholas Lee
Nicholas Lee

Man, I'm still mad about the Draenei retcon. I really loved these sneaky bastards during TFT missions.

Austin Moore
Austin Moore

one mistake
Nigger, DEDICATED OUT OF COMBAT RESSER. There weren't enough useful spec to make it so the entire raid hinged on literally every member. You never played the game.

Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

WoW "classic" takes place in a different timeline
all the overwatch heroes are unlockable with lootboxes
Can't wait to main Tracer. Guess I'll buy a lvl 60 boost and a cashshop tier 1, leveling and farming pre-raid BiS is too boring after all.

Lincoln Flores
Lincoln Flores

computer cant handle original WoW back when it came out
would crash if i tried to take the zepplin and by the time if finished loading the zeppling would be BACK on the same continent i left from
had to call my friend on a landline (cell phones still weren't as common then) get him to login on my account and get me to the other continent
mfw friend was my travel agent

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

Conan

Joseph James
Joseph James

Night Elves are Vanilla though!

Aaron Morales
Aaron Morales

Should've waited twice as long for the zeppelin to make a round trip

Bentley Roberts
Bentley Roberts

Anyone else hate how imbalanced Vanilla PvP was?

meet a rogue
lmao stunlocked to death

meet a mage
lmao pompyro

meet a warrior
lmao charge mortal strike ded

meet a warlock
lmao dots or chain seduce

meet a priest
lmao dots and self-heals

meet a shaman
lmao windfury procs

met a paladin
lmao reckbomb instakill

meet a hunter
lmao kited to death

meet a druid
lmao kited to death AND he self-heals all the time

I swear, it was so unbalanced

Zachary Ortiz
Zachary Ortiz

play lock during release
everything is a literal free kill due no diminishing returns on CC
LMOA nice game blizzard.

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

played hunter

hunter was so broken in world pvp you could could kill warriors and rogues only using melee attacks and spells, you didn't even have to kite them

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

And the PvE was pretty much this.

You want to tank
Be a warrior

Want to dps as plate melee
Be a warrior

Want to dps as leather melee
Be a rogue

Want to dps as cloth
Be a mage
Or a warlock if you want to be a glorified portal.

Want to mail dps
Be a hunter

Want to heal
Be a priest or any of the hybrid classes

Wow so fun

Samuel Thompson
Samuel Thompson

Don't play it then mate, you can play every single specc in Legion!

I plan on playing BFA and Classic

Cameron Jones
Cameron Jones

I plan on playing the shit out of classic and bfa, Ion's the best thing to happen to wow in years.

Christian Bennett
Christian Bennett

playing against people that don't abuse the vanilla hunter dead zone, in which he can't attack with either ranged or melee

i know you play against terribad players, good warriors get out of combat->charge by abusing the dead zone once they 1 shot your pet,, same thing goes for rogue (out of combat->stealth-> nothing personnel)

Mason Clark
Mason Clark

Assuming Classic will not be behind another monthly subscription and is not part of the current WoW subscription, I'll try out the game nevertheless.

Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

hunters who think wpvp means kite for 5 minutes like it's razorgore are so fucking annoying

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