So this whole time illidan was a good guy ?

So this whole time illidan was a good guy ?

He's a Mary Sue, he's always the good guy

those druids did nothing wrong

MUH SCARS

Yep. Arthas too. We were the bad guys all along.

Illidan has been a dindu from day 1.

If by "whole time" you mean retroactively written to be fully in the right unbeknownst to us, yes. But I don't think Illidan was ever TRULY an evil dude.

G-getting turned on by this doesn't make me a furry, right?

Who cares? Don't be insecure. Your dick will always know you better than you know yourself.

Illidan has always been dindu, they just fucked his character in TBC since back then they really didn't care too much about the story.

They retconned so much shit in the books about him so he was always a good guy.

>Really liked the fact that he was so autistic everyody betray him in OT

It's what happens when you are naturally gifted but are too stubborn to accept mentorship that will lead you to greatness and strike out on your own instead, because "you know better". You get fucked up pretty hard, but still do accomplish great things most likely.

That was obvious, bruh.

If you didn't realize he was mostly a good guy in TBC you're retarded
The only straight up bad shit he does there is enslave a bunch of Broken to fight for him

That's been going on for the whole expansion
Where have you been

It does
I'm sorry user

>The whole expansion Xe'ra was telling us how bad we fucked up for killing Illidan and how big of shitheads we were
>Within a month Illidan fucking blows her up
>Lightcucks

A furry is someone who believes they are an animal, and not human. If you understand that you aren't a wolf or fox or some shit, you are not a furry.

He was about to get light raped, what else would he have done?

>A furry is someone who believes they are an animal, and not human.
No, that's a therian.
Furries are just people who enjoy animal/anthro characters, and getting a boner from something is a pretty extreme example of "liking" it

>but still do accomplish great things most likely.

This is what NEETS on 4chins tell themselves to reassure them their life isn't a waste

if "the end justifies the means" is considered morally "good", then yes.

I want to impregnate a Night Elf

>uses demon magic to fight against demons
>nelves: "REE demon magic BAD!"
>doesnt want race to lose their connection to what made them so powerful
>nelves "REEEE magic water BAD" (but we're gonna use it anyway lol)
>jailed for 10,000 years for what exactly
>gets jailbroke by brothers wife
>fight off more demons
>use demon magic to fight off the demons
>see step #2
>get banished for what exactly?
>liberates three repressed races in exchange for their loyalty
>tries to destroy the lich king

He was always a good guy, OP

some parts regarding outland are missing here.

>kills Tichnodrius which is a pretty big fucking deal at least back in w3 times
>"wow illidan you're a fag how could you should've just waited for some cenarius' brother to come wreck him brb nap"

They're retconning the mistakes made in BC is all

>TBC babies think they know the character
>turns out the didn't

wow i'm so shocked.

Why is the story so shit in wow

He's failed at plenty of things. He's not a Mary Sue.

The fuck wrong did he do in Outland?
The only things you can blame him for are strongarming the Broken to fight for him and trusting an elf

He was never a bad guy.

Illidan is an incubus really

buuuurp lights not real velen

>Turalyon spends the whole time doing Xe'ra's bidding
>Turalyon is Xe'ra's strongest champion
>Turalyon works his ass off to rescue Xe'ra and restore her
>Xe'ra immediately gets blown up by Illidan
>Turalyon gets pissed and tries to kill Illidan
>Despite having just used enough power to destroy Xe'ra, Illidan is still able to catch Turalyon's sword with his bare fucking hands
>Alleria then immediately leaves to go get the BVC
>The entire expansion basically shits on everything Turalyon dedicated his life to
>Turalyon doesn't even do anything important at Antorus
Poor bastard

Can someone explain to me how there is still life on that planet?

>implying I think I'm naturally gifted
I'm just a waste of space desu

Is this guy fucking stabbing Azeroth with a sword? What happened?
Has the lore become as goofy and bad as it looks? Granted wc3/wow has never had incredible writing, but it was serviceable and didn't sound like a bad fanfiction

>silithus is a shithole
>sargeras just penetrated azeroths shithole
mmmm i can fap to this

>What is Sargeras

He stabs it in some mostly deserted area.

Anything that resembles even slightly to some sort of mythology is goofy, you just never payed attention.

Any story involving Illidan in TBC is just shit, none of it makes any sense. We had no reason to kill him other than Maiev.

What you see here is Sargeras penetrating a juvenile Titan, this was taken right before he got dragged off to Titan jail.

damn user spoiler shit when talking about story rich games

Idk man I thought the old gods were pretty well done with the whispers and that lovecraftian feel (up to cataclysm where they went full on TENTACLES BRO XD)

more importantly, can someone explain how the fuck sargeras appears above azeroth? Why did he take so long to do it? Surely stabbing the planet sooner would have been better than waiting until your plan is crumbling and your entire army is destroyed

I imagine he didn't have a physical form, then when they did the ritual it gave him form as it pulled him back to the seat.

He stabbed it out of spite because he was getting captured.

We space opera now.

>sword is the size of a continent
>lol, no worries bro, it hit a desert so it's all cool

Also, Sargeras just being that large and so close to Azeroth would fuck it up badly.

Legion was actually closer to his WC3 character
BC was when they really went full retard, it's good they fixed it

It's magic. The sword looks bigger than it is because of how far he is.

So how are they going to downgrade our power? Take away artifacts and say it was 100% them and without them we're scrub shitters?
We killed a real titan, only those void lord things are more powerful than them

What about the damage caused by his left hand?

Was that a landmass?

If it was the ocean how come a massive fucking Tsumani didn't wreck everything?

>Take away artifacts and say it was 100% them and without them we're scrub shitters?

The beginning of Legion questing is hyping up how the artifact you're getting will be able to single-handedly turn the tide after the fuck up on the broken shore, so probably yeah.

Was he always on azeroth like that or just for legion xpac?

You use the artifacts to stop the corruption coming out of the sword, you get to keep them but they lose all the power supposedly.

Fuck I hate WoW Lore so much. I hated everything they did past the Silithus Patch and I've hated everything I've read about it since.

You mean you didn't fucking know since Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne? Jeez. Slow King here.

Garrosh did nothing wrong either

Zul'gin did nothing wrong either

Garrosh was literally WoW's Hitler and went full muh race
>Zul'jin on the other side was in all his right to do what he did, fucking elves get out REEEEEEEEEEE

Why did the Naaru help us attack Illidan if he was their guy?

Why are alliance players so cringe

He's always tried to do things for the greater good, that has never not been the case with his writing. The problem is that his way of doing shit usually rubs people the wrong way.

Everything about Turalyon and Alleria's post-disappearance journey is dogshit anyways.

I like you.

Illidan opened a massive portal to Argus, the Eredar/Draenei homeworld and now base of operations for the Legion.

Playing on both sides here, there's really no difference in playerbase on Alliance and Horde, and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

This is wrong. To be a part of the furry community, you have to have a fursona. The anthropomorphic embodiment of "you", and you have to desire to be this form more so than you desire to be your own human self. That is a R E Q U I R E M E N T.

why are faction pride niggers so cringe?

you dont really kill a titan at full power. cheap way to avoid the issue, but that's the official lore. argus wasn't yet fully born, not only that, but the titans were siphoning his energy to restore themselves, like some kind of bizarre act of incestuous cosmic cannibalism. you also receive help from the titans to kill argus.

you're right, he's a gary stu

All the e-celebs play alli.

Because they hadn't invented some dogshit short story to say Illidan was some blessed holy birth yet I guess.

Worst part about WoW lore nowadays, they just asspull some dogshit "prophecy" in some stupid book or online short story and then it magically gets fulfilled a couple of years later in the next expansion, unless the fans are complaining about it a lot online in which case they do the complete opposite to "subvert your expectations" or something.

>45% of all Horde characters are Blood Elves

Both sides are about the same and tired of the same Blizzard shit. If they dont come out with a new game soon.....well I think its well and finally over after 2-3 more exps.. thats assuming they shut it down when theres less then 1m people.

KAEL'THAS DID NOTHING WRONG AND BLIZZARD RUINED HIM

Maybe in nu-WoW lore
Actual Warcraft lore ended when WotLK ended.

The Naaru don't have a hive mind. One can dickride Illidan and think he's the best shot at beating the demons and another can think that he's a dangerous psychopath

well he was sort of trying to summon KJ into the world which would have been a pretty shitty thing to do

yeah because Blizzard ruined his character. Blizz during the BC era had no clue what the fuck was going on with the story

KT made more sense than illidan, being a tricky backstabber in order to get power fits his character.
they just went retarded with the rez

He went full retard in WoW for no real reason.
I'm honestly surprised they killed him off instead of whoring him out for years like Illidan.

This, if there is any expansion to shit on the lore then it's BC, every other expansion lore looks like a masterpiece compared to what they did in BC

>furry defence force already THIS strong
jesus

>being a tricky backstabber in order to get power fits his character
He only backstabbed to avoid the genocide of his people. Then he swore loyalty to Illidan and helped him out all the way to the lich king.
It makes no sense that he would suddenly betray him for muh power.

He was never a bad guy. He gave up on NE and turned to legion only to get their power.

>I literally had no idea who Illidan was outside of WoW cinematics xDD

Illidan isn't the "child of light and shadow" you fucking moron, it's Arator

He's just had Schizo writing.

Remember in classic/bc when he was in Outland basically to cry and angst over getting jobbed by a weakened Arthas so hard he convinced himself that he'd won.

This. Faction conflict has overstayed its welcome. It's only been sustained purely through bad storytelling and retcons.

>He only backstabbed to avoid the genocide of his people.
and he backstabbed Illidan who was supposed to use his elves fight a war he never wanted
he just though he could get a source of mana
as I said, everything around his revival is retarded

Yeah, the way he broke every sacred law of his specie, got himself drunk with the power of demons and stained his hands with the blood of his brothers and sisters while serving and malignant entity.
He undoubtedly did nothing wrong.

Killed to many innocents to be considered good guy.

It's all lorelol anyway.

Also it can never be resolved because of 2 playable factions.
Unless they remake the world again and let ally and horde play together.

>man the scourge ruined everything and Illidan isn't delivering the magicy goodness
>I know I'll fuck over these giant light creatures and join the fold of the guy who made the scourge in the first place!

>literally asking for an A-bomb
>pushes his engineers to test the A-bomb
>execute the chief-engineer for creating the A-bomb
>use an even stronger A-bomb a couple of years later just for the lulz

Kael was never portrayed as a clever guy

half of those are level 1 female used to sexting in game