>hurr jap games are so ridiculous with huge anime swords those would never work in real life
As technology advanced, swords got bigger and bigger. Just before swords went out of fashion because of guns in the 16th century, they were massive and bigger than a person (look up "montante").
If we were still using swords today, they would be Monster Hunter sized.
>swords got bigger and bigger
4 u
>walmart katana
all swords are wonderful and should be represented in video games
yeah, he totally BTFO that armless puppet
Listen up faggot, just because large swords were used SPARINGLY throughout history does not mean they were preferred or even popular. They certainly weren't a result of increasing technology. Pretty much all of Europe the prefered single handed swords both before and after the introduction of firearms.
if that was a person the sword would just fly off his hand from sheer shock.
i know this is bait but it does give me an excuse to post this cute little sword
youtube.com
If anyone is interested
>He thinks ceremonial swords were widely used in combat
LMAO, people who do such things are literally legendary and it's often the case that their deeds are greatly exaggerated.
Large as fuck swords would also be limited if every fight wasn't on a random field.
We'll make shit more efficient in killing while being smaller.
Laser katanas are the future of sword.
Because most people weren't able to use them. There is a reason Doppelsöldner were considered elite warriors and were paid double.
based Skalla
that's what a weak wimp would think
>this is what dexfags believe
>t. chuuni
>hurr durr japanese games are so ridiculous they aren't realistic at all
And this is where western game industry failed. Too much focus on being realistic instead of fun or innovative gameplay
>There is a reason Doppelsöldner were considered elite warriors and were paid double.
And that reason is that they volunteered for the dirty work in exchange for hazard pay.
Katanas were wielded by two hands. Full plate armor at its peak was designed to deflect slashing blows without encumbering its wearer. Katanas were useful to cut off peasant limbs, nothing more.
>spears dominate war
>hurrr muh swords
>b-b-but muh practicality! What do you mean big swords aren't retarded!
>this can't be h-happening! sword n board was supposed to be the best!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>SOMEONE STOP HIM, THIS ISN'T FAIR
>fun or innovative
wow that wave animation and tits jiggling are fun and innovative thank you video game, now i'll go back to my farmhouse and press x to sleep god bless japan
t.
this. why would you usea sword when you can use a spear
Stop posting these faggots
>uga buga
Who are you quoting?
>civilian """""""""weapon"""""""""
>Swerve nobles, peasant coming through!
what’s his end game
>A FUCKING PADDLE
No one even used swords. It was all spears. IRL sword fighting is a snoozefest. The most efficient way to kill a man is the most boring.
u mad?
>The closer a sword gets to spear length, the better it performs in combat against normal-sized swords.
Really makes you think.
>Merciless Destruction of a Cheap Katana (Viewer Request)
>The most efficient way to kill a man is the most boring.
Stabbing him in the back when he is not paying attention?
reach is king
everyone knows that
Are you this guy?
Reminder:
Katanas aren't good for striking against other swords, training with the katana consists of mainly dodging the enemies attacks and using the long reach of the sword to cut at the weak points the opponents armor.
Also the reason the metal was folded 100 times over was because the metal they had wasn't as strong on it's own.
everyone know jap swords are showcase crap and only fat weebs think they're good for something because their beloved cartoons make them look cool
>what is that thing?
>looks like some kind of stupidly big sword
>he looks like a little kid trying to carry his dad's sword
>what a retard
>let's pepper his shieldless ass with arrows
Why stop there?
No you're just a reddit faggot
they’re not cartoons
>katana
>long reach
>en.wikipedia.org
>The basket-hilted sword was generally in use as a military sword
>Stemming from the 16th-century sword of the Balkan mercenaries who formed the bodyguard of the Doge of Venice
>Balkan mercenaries
>The schiavona became popular among the armies of those who traded with Italy during the 17th century and was the weapon of choice for many heavy cavalry.
>armies
>cavalry
Civilians may have owned such swords but cut & thrust swords like the schiavona were commonly used by militaries. Pic related is a civilian weapon.
hema is cool and all but there's no point in using a regular longsword when theyre all made of lightweight plastic.
conversely, no one but an actual brick shithouse of a man would be able to whip around a real steel zweihander like that.
>le reddit meme
based
>PADDLE
So are you merely pretending or what?
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The swords used in hema are generally of the same weight as the sword it is based on
not everyone is an 80 pound vegan soyboy like you
Depending on the place and time the fighting was done mostly by peasants (sengoku, some wars before XIV europe) with little to no instruction on how to fight. A spear is much easier to use en masse and needs no technique or education to be used effectively, contrary to a sword.
they weight the same as real swords that's why they are so thick
This is actually pretty cool. At least he's trying to find ways to make big heavy swords usable and trying to develop techniques to use them different from these hema dudes who keep just repeating old stuff over and over without even adding anything to it.
>based
Keep digging your own hole lol
A spear would do what you described much better.
Katanas were ceremonial swords and not for actual warfare. They were used for executions and exhibition.
doubt that extra long sword includes the extra weight.
what material wobbles around like a nerf sword but still weighs the same as steel?
just because the handle weighs 10 lbs doesn't make hema sword techniques 1:1 with real swords.
You know what I mean, the top edge of the sword was used primarily.
Here you go.
>Using the long reach of an incredibly average sized sword to cut fucking lamellar armor
No. Even with relatively shitty Jap chainmail, no. Consider never posting again.
You should also consider never posting again.
The typical zweihander weights 2 to 4 kg max what are you on about
Even a kid has the strenght to weild it
>typical
>4 kg
How heavy was the heaviest sword you've ever handled user?
>conversely, no one but an actual brick shithouse of a man would be able to whip around a real steel zweihander like that.
They're not as heavy as you think. My longsword is an unsharpened replica I use for training and it's only 1.6kg of weight.
Zweihander would weigh around 3-4kg for actual battle use and while you're gonna get tired of swinging real soon, it's not that difficult.
You're retarded, read my post again.
You're not supposed to strike the armor, you look for points where there is no armor such as the wrist, neck, armpit, etc.
if your sword doesn't weight at least 10kg it's worthless it's never gonna penetrate dragon skin
u amd
isn't it retarded on his side to back off against a long sword?
>Just before swords went out of fashion because of guns in the 16th century
Thats not how it happened. Guns began to replace bowmen, but even then it took a while because for a while, Longbowmen could shoot more accurately and faster at distance. Swords were always in the minority anyway at least during the medeival period, Pikemen/spearmen were the most common infantry unit. You could make pikes purely out of wooden sticks, and arm barely trained peasants with them and they'd still be deadly to a cavalry charge,
is he training for some kind of anime expo? Those stances are full retard
What's the best length for a spear?
Most of what he does in that particular video is pretty bad. The sword itself needs to be reworked to reduce the weight, and the dude needs to bulk up and get some strength through his entire body.
I'll admit though, the sword looks kind of neat.
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>$45 Katana
What could possibly go wrong?
OBSESSED
longer than a sword
Isnt the sword still usable though? Its still sharp as fuck to cut down some peasants
nah nvidia
swords like that are just not practical, there were large swords used, but it wasn't some fancy retarded shit, it was just a longer version of same old style swords
>what material wobbles around like a nerf sword but still weighs the same as steel?
protip:
Steel
Really nigga?
you also have to consider the fact that swords were not the primary weapon in battle, sword was a secondary weapons, have fun trying to pierce a plate armor but hitting it with a blade.
A steel sword doesn't really weigh very much you know. You're pretty much looking at around three pounds on average.
Estoc bestoc
>it's a "Sup Forumsirgins pretend they're history experts" episode
post the dick version
>you look for points where there is no armor such as the wrist
The Japs were smart enough to copy chainmail and used it extensively. This isn't an issue of me not reading your post this is an issue of you not knowing how armor works.
why cant we all just agree that the art of combat was mastered by the romans -- large shield with a spear for throwing/range, and a gladius for short-range combat.
truly the masters of war
>he doesn't know how to parry
>western game industry failed
Lol Wut?
i'm not retarded. of course steel isn't 100% rigid. but that guy did a two handed thrust directly into someone's chest and the blade instantly buckled. it's not even close to steel density.
I have never seen or held a sword in real life, but my opinions are still as much worth as yours regarding this.
The longest known sword used in combat was a 7 foot Zweihander that weighed only 14 pounds
>masters of war
If they're so good how come they're so dead?
The pollaxe is the most versatile melee weapon ever invented.
He's on his own and doing his best. I'd say he's okay. He also seems like a cool guy. You can't really compare someone who made his own sword and is learning on his own to people who have years of education and instructors helping them behind.
Yes, please answer the question.
>THIS THREAD AGAIN
Fuck off no one cares how realistic shit is.
>you can't discuss anything if you are not an expert in that field