- Square Enix circa 2005/2006
It'd be a shame if we made your protagonist a literal faggot... heh. enjoy
Who keeps designing these men?
japan
Yeah and look at him now
holy shit he looks 30% better
70% more and he'll look like a straight man
But he does look like a straight man, by nippon standards..?
im captain basch
>men
It's amazing how much cooler he gets with a shirt
vaan isn't the main character, he's just along for the ride
Vaan has it pretty rough. He's a void devoid of any meaning in FF12, then when he finds his own shit in RW Penelo cucks him with some bird faggot
Some fag
This makes him so much better
He lived in a desert town all his life. He never needed a shirt. Even the women in the game are walking around in boob tubes.
I'm a few hours into the game and heavens did I forget how much of an absolute idiot Vaan is
>let's do something profoundly stupid right after promising to one of the three people who care about me that I wouldn't do anything profoundly stupid
>which translates into let's break into the occupied royal palace, get captured during an extremely high-profile attempt on the Consul's life, get thrown into a dungeon, escape from said dungeon, and then just waltz in broad daylight into the shop where everyone who cares about me works so that if I get found again the Empire knows to execute them all on the spot on suspicions of association with the Dalmascan resistance.
Penelo never deserved this
He looks like an aryan, non-emo Squall.
wat. Square couldn't even do the romance subplot that has been in almost every mainline FF since 4. what the fuck
Damn, he actually looks like a real character now. He's even got the swashbuckler theme going.
He's full of shit, they get together at the end and they're a couple in Tactics A2.
oh. well that guy's a fag and I guess I am too for believing him
Japs are weird. The gays are all super masculine and the straights are all women.
Play the game, it's fun and easy to emulate if you don't have a DS or 3DS. And since it's RTS-Lite it's actually comfortable to play with both stylus on actual hardware and mouse pointer when emulating.
Ashe, Basch and Balthier are the true main characters of the story, the rest are the support staff.
Even Penelo is more important than Vaan as she's the reason Larsa is around the party so much.
Seriously, Vaan and Penelo's relationship is constantly paralleled with Balthier and Fran's. And as you said, in the end it's obvious they're a couple.
>emulation
>not original hardware
wanna know how i know you're a literal homosexual irl?
Actually, here is how it went down:
>Writers/devs: "Our main character is Balthier, an adult with a nuanced personality, with plenty of opportunities for character development and plenty of history to be invested in".
>Suits: "According to our market research, that is not what our target demographic want, replace Balthier as the main character with a girly boy ripe for fan fiction."
This is more or less what happened. Balthier WAS the main character during development, until they changed the stories direction. Thats why Vaan feels like a sidecharacter, because he IS one.
Some people don't have access to actual hardware, I played it on a DS so fuck off and get cancer and die you shitstain.
suggesting emulation is like telling your friend it's better to buy chinese imitation shit
Balthier and Fran's relationships are way more intimate and they don't show them to outsiders, there's no parallels between them and Vaan/Penelo, unless you're talking about some non-canon Motomu Shittiyama garbage.
>Square Enix game with male lead
>expecting anything but a twink faggot
>Balthier
Bzzzzt, wrong. Basch was. As in Matsuno chose Basch as initial MC but that was during pre-production, MC-Basch never existed during the development since the suits demanded a teen boy MC before the development started.
>All those cringe scenes between Vaan and Ashe
Specially the one a Jahara
It's (You)r last.
Whatever, it's been over ten fucking years, I can't remember it all. Point is, Vaan was not originally the MC, and it shows.
not a fucking argument buddy i win
Does Ashe get the D? This is important
Vaan is an audience surrogate.
found the sex obsessed virgin weeb
shoo shoo adults are talking
Which part of "ONLY DURING PRE-PRODUCTION" aka the brainstorming part do you not understand? Vaan became the MC extremely early in development, it's not a late change by suits like the reshoots in say Justice League movie.
Vaan was ALWAYS the MC during the actual development of the game.
Basch as MC was literally only a concept and never got past the concept stage.
you're getting autistically upset over final fantasy 12's development cycle
They never say it in Revenant Wings, but she is accompanied by Larsa all the time, so it's sorta implied she /ss/'d him.
From what I remember 11 or so years ago. I only one even kind of close was Larsa I think was his name?
isn't she a dirty whore who fucked her dead husband?
>Ashe gets prime shota cock
>the shota is given used goods loose slut
>cucked out of Penelo by Vaan
I feel sorry for Larsa
Larsa was a trap
Huh. Apparently all that his design needed was a shirt. Who knew.
I mean her husband didn't leave for war the day they got married and newly weds usually consummate their marriage the night they marry.
I miss the memes
It contrasts exceptionally well with the rest of his outfit too, it's mindboggling how he goes from shit tier to great tier by simply putting on a white swashbuckler shirt with a popped collar.
Japanese women, they like feminine men.
The mid to late 2000s was square trying everything in their power to pander to Japanese women. Hence X-2, Vaan, and the 13 trilogy.
they are less delusional than westerners though
if you go to a gay bar you will see more masculine looking dudes than twinks, meanwhile most girls go exactly for the cool, twink dudes
Vaan shows Ashe how to get over the need for revenge
damn
looks cool af
Snow is pretty masculine chad though, and fucks a prime 16 tight pussy that's better than her sister.
And Sazh is the polar opposite of what Japanese women like, he's a fucking stereotypical afro nigger.
You're getting incredibly buzzwordy about not being able to just admit you were wrong. Not him by the way.
pretty sure it worked for america as well
there's a stupid amount of female final fantasy fans
I'M CAPTAIN BASCH RON RONSENBERG OF DALMASKA!!!
I'M CAPTAIN BASCH!!!
>play SE rpg
>you play as a dude all the girls would fall for
>is canon straight
>play bioware rpg
>you literally play as a canon homo body builder dude every fucking time
what did they mean by this
With the 13 trilogy I’m more referencing the female lead.
sazh is the worst final fantasy character ever
absolute dog shit character design
dude keeps a BIRD in his fucking HAIR
And the best written member of 13 and one of the best in the series
don't listen to ondore's lies
As much as everyone hated vaan, I was rooting for my bouy to get with Ashe the whole game
But never happened
That is true, women do tend to self insert as Lightning and pair her with Hope which is the most popular pairing in the fandom because women just want that prime shota cock.
Wearing a thin, white shirt would actually be cooler though
> this amount of autism
This is why I come to Sup Forums
just like most things in your life
just
never happened :\
Well what other choice do they have, a 10yo and a nigger
Penelo is better, younger, better figure, pure blonde, confirmed virgin, devoted and faithful.
Ashe is an old hag and is used goods to boot.
Larsa got cucked HARD by Vaan by losing the Penelobowl.
...
Is it ever explained how the two of them got together?
They are pretty much inseparable by the time of FF12 and understand each other without saying anything.
actually, they like femine faces
they still want the character to be fit and have a cool, confident attitude
on the other hand FF12 is dominated by middle aged dudes, Vaas is the only young male in the whole game and he isn't really a protag
Fuck you Sazh was just about the only redeeming character in the shitheap that was FFXIII. Fang was alright
don't forget he has a cooler airship than balthier too now, and is banging penelo on the regular.
all women love black men
if she says she doesn't, she's lying or repressed
>a 10yo and a nigger
Who's the 10yo?
Vanille and Fang are confirmed lesbo couple.
Sazh is a widower who is too old for this shit, Snow is taken by Serah.
it's like han solo and chewbacca if chewbacca was a delicious brown rabbit girl instead
They probably just fucked like rabbits offscreen
>larsa got cucked
Vaan had the penelo bowl won from the very beginning of the game. Even before his brother died. There was no cucking at all. Just rejection.
t. dreamy nigger.
No, but you get more scenes with them in Revenant Wings aka 12-2 which is also a criminally underrated game with cool RTS-lite mechanics.
nope. educated white man
You mean "white soyboy addicted to BLACKED videos."
Yup, it's really fucking obvious that those three are important and relevant to the plot and the other three most definitely are not.
The one you didn't mention
RW is a Toriyama-written abomination.
He is not a canon homo. You choose to be a canon homo. You're projecting.
>Penelo has achieved her dream of becoming a dancer and joins her friend Vaan, now a sky pirate with his own airship, as his partner.
She already got whored out.
Which is who you fucking dumb shitposter?
blacked porn is more realistic. idiot
look at the white women of today
they love black cock
take your racist shit and leave. stay on topic
Okcupid
WAIT
Hope is the 10yo
Fug I thought it was Snow
Reminder that he was perfectly lucid and did nothing wrong.
Essentially, the cultural belief in Japan is that truly masculine, straight men are so heterosexual that they can look like women and still pick up chicks. Even going back centuries Japan's beauty ideal for men was effeminate, pale, and soft.
On the other extreme, they consider men who are outwardly masculine, muscular, and hairy to be extremely gay because it's so male only other men will like it.
tl;dr - East Asia has strange ass beauty ideals.
does snow look like he's 10 to you
t. never played it
But the original post is literally the argument that women self insert as Lightning and pair up with Hope. Also Hope is 15 in FF13. Your argument was that "well the only other choices (than Hope) are the nigger and the 10 year old" which is why I asked who the fuck are you talking about.
To be fair, he never explained that his tulpa was actually real to anyone which is why everyone thought he was cray cray. All he had to do was ask Venat to show himself to everyone.
Also Venat is the true hero of FF12.
>that post
>that redditspacing.
Holy fuck, the more you post the more you sound like a walking soyboy stereotype.
I fucking hate how they raped the textures in 12 HD. I wish there was a mod to restore original textures from IZJS PS2 for characters and levels.
Textures themselves are fine or better, you are talking about some effects.