>game has explicitly anti-capitalist message
haha but it's okay when Japan and Nintendo does it. Don't try and say I'm over analyzing anything, at the beginning of the game the townspeople do not even have a concept of currency, and by the end of the game they leave their rural environs for the big city, where they work wage-labour and get bombarded by flashy advertisements.
i think that it is a good game
>supporting capitalism
Found the underage
Yeah how dare I support the system that has made the world better than it has ever been over these last 6000 years
I don't even mind the anti-capitalism. What pisses me off is the degeneracy and the trannie normalization bullshit. Heck, the way Lucas acquire PSI is a sexually suggestive scene with a old trannie dude naked on a hitspring. It's absolutely disgusting. And on top of that you have the stupid dyke Kumatora.
It's a shitty game, a shameful sequel to a masterpiece. Should've never been released.
>States the obvious
If you don't like it, then just say it. People have different views and perspectives, of course some of that will make into their games and art. Doesn't stop the game from being good gameplay wise, it just makes it possibly a hindrance in regards to story and the enjoyment of a plot.
If you want a simple plot, go back to Earthbound. And even that has subliminar messages. Hurr.
>trannie normalization
>literal men in drag for lul xd
>tranny normalization
>the trannies are magical psychic fairies who live in shells and have tea parties
Imagine being such a pede that harmless gags upset you. Your mentality is what leads to censorship.
If you think the game is
>unga bunga money bad
>unga bunga technology bad
You are underanalyzing it
If I had to summarize it in a sentence: The overarching story is about the distortion and corruption of desires as people lose track of what makes them happy.
This
Anti-capitalist = Anti-semitic
>Tranny normalization
You wot mate. If anything, the game literally made them "special snowflakes" in every sense of the word, beings that use magic and just so happen to be involved in the plot.
And what happened between Lucas and one of the Magypsies was the Magypsy forcing Lucas's head under the water to pressure his PSI to come out. You try to hold your breath for too long under the water, you eventually would have to take a breath. And Kumatora's just a tomboy.
>such a pede
Sorry, I don't speak retard.
Sup Forums takes everything at face value. EVERYTHING
the problem with capitalism isnt capitalism. it is the uninformed consumer. government should be keeping big business in check (instead of being butt buddies) and informing the masses to actually have standards, leading to better end products as well as less shady manufacturing.
This. everyone was pretty happy when the first bouts of capitalistic society started coming in. Technology thrived, people generally had cooler commodities, civilization grew.
the issue was when greed started rearing its head more and more, and Porky couldn't stand people being happy, so he continued pushing them to have more lavish lives away from nature, to the point where they would literally live in a city of flashing lights and cardboard, before they were all wiped out by the dragon.
>And even that has subliminar messages
i didn't see them
bruh they would never be able to release Mother 3 in the US because of the tranny characters
there was already a gay character in earthbound, don't know why you're pretending 3 was doing anything new.
Then lurk until you do.
It all goes around anyway. Just like conservatives and liberals are the same party swinging back and forth according to pro-moderation or anti-moderation sentiments.
Capitalism is Objectivism.
Objectivism is really just fatalism.
Fatalism is a font for fascism.
And fascism is anti-capitalism.
Its inconsequential what your beliefs are. You're connected to the puppet strings if you subscribe to any absolutism at all.
The chick was hot though.
Careful user. That sounds like fascism to me.
im a fascist, youre a fascist. user'S a fascist. are there any more FASCISTS i should know about?
Imagine literally being LOCK-san
The magypsies were fucking hilarious. They're comic relief. And I think they're more like drag queens since they still have stubble.
And the music which sounds like Whiter Shade of Pale is great.
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literally whomst
>>unga bunga money bad
This is an important concept. The fact that the villagers did not recognize money at all is indicative of a Marxist view of history. Modern liberal philosophy has long held that the concept of 'currency' is a permanent feature of the human condition; i.e. a Marxist would say 'look at this primitive tribe, they have no concept of a monetary system' while a liberal would point out that even prior to trading familial tribes would invent their own 'rudimentary' trade system.
Mother 3 is taking the position that societies without currency can not only exist, but can have complex labor relations on top of that.
There is a very present, clear anti-capitalist message throughout Mother 3.
Mother 3 isn't anti-capitalism, it's about people who were originally happy, have their happiness crushed and having their happiness replaced with instant satisfaction.
>people live in their nice traditional town
>they find happiness through their friends and family and working hard and helping eachother
>town's beloved dies
>everybody's sad
>(((Fassad))) swoops in and tells everybody to they can feel happy by indulging in happy boxes
>happy boxes are a metaphor for meaningless garbage like jewelry or fancy clothes or sitting in front of a computer all day, stuff that doesn't really make you happy but satisfies you
>family bonds fall apart, friendships break up, people stop seeing eachother because they draw """happiness""" from inanimate objects instead of from other people
>town goes to shit
Educate thyself, plebeian.
oh of course. but i dont know whether to be insulted or not
>>happy boxes are a metaphor for meaningless garbage like jewelry or fancy clothes or sitting in front of a computer all day, stuff that doesn't really make you happy but satisfies you
>>family bonds fall apart, friendships break up, people stop seeing eachother because they draw """happiness""" from inanimate objects instead of from other people
What is: alienation
yeah nothing to do with anti-capitalism xd
I know this is bait, that much is pretty obvious.
But it's this mentality that prevented nintendo from releasing the game in the west, even in current times.
Extremist politics that seek to stifle creation were a fucking mistake and I hope rad-libs and alt-rights eat a fucking bullet.
at this point they are better off remaking the earthbound series like they did with mario and luigi superstar saga
So? What's your point? Are you honestly trying to compare this to "MAKE AMERIKKKA DRUMPF FREE AGAIN XD" white bitches be fuckin nigga dick n shiet yo yt ass be dead!! Wolfenstein 2 nonsense?
It may be a working system but it's pretty shitty.
I mean, you're the one who spelled it wrong man.
>BotW
Are you saying alienation can't happen in a communist society?
>Wolfenstein II
>anti-capitalism
literally one of the most liberal games I've ever played. You sound like an old-man that hasn't taken political science when you think "I'm okay with brown people"= communism
He's gay in the same way Dumbledore is gay: pretty much no conclusive evidence in favor of that interpretation can be found on the work itself. The character status is only confirmed after the work is release as a way to virtue signal.
And Earthbound has a very strong pro-heterossexuality subtext.
Didn't they have acorns in earlier versions of the game as a stand-in for money early on?
Yeah man let's change to a socialist system because those always work
I thought it was conservatives and far-righters that hate the media "because it brainwashes people"
Are you trying to say that Mother 3 has a conservative agenda?
(You), colossal idiot
>not everyone on Sup Forums is braindead
Thank you user
WRONG KID DIED.
>earlier versions
you can use acorns to trade for stuff in the final version
Would you Kuma a Tora?
Tony was faggy as hell though. Remember the times he calls you and when you see him at Stonehenge base?
>calls Earthbound a masterpiece
>when Earthbound does all the things you're complaining about
>communist society
>existing
Communism is more than likely impossible. If you mean 'inefficient capitalist society run by the state that keeps people waiting in lines at 4AM for a gallon of milk" then yes alienation is possible in that society. Read "Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More" by Alexei Yurchack for more about this.
>this entire thread
>everything that's anti-capitalism is automatically communism
Jesus christ you people are dense. Mother 3 is literally Varg Vikernes: the game
LMFAO imagine being this retarded. This is what happened to the generation educated by Youtube, to the point where they believe that the democratic party is 'left wing' and that leftist critique of ideology, media, etc. haven't existed for centuries
There's always one person in every thread not being a retard
Congrats user, it's you this time
Just a needy best-friend. You'd haveto have a kotaku-tier ideological lens to infer homossexuality for that
I wasn't suggesting that Wolfenstein 2 was anti-capitalist, I was asking if he was trying to compare Mother 3's "anti-capitalist" agenda to the "SJW" agenda that western games push which Sup Forums spergs out about. I don't understand why he would say "it's okay when japan does it" unless he was trying to draw parallels between this game and the western games that Sup Forums spergs about.
>Mother 3 is literally Varg Vikernes: the game
that unironically makes sense
at any rate, he was annoying as fuck and I don't like him
Except it doesn't
Imagine being this retarded that you ignore modern conservative talking points entirely just to push a shitposting agenda about a 12 year old videogame.
I can only assume you're having what would be described as "a giggle, mate"
Even if it contains those ideas, it's foolish to say that's the focus of the game. It uses an anti-capitalist narrative to say something about the human condition, which can be absorbed even if you disagree with Itoi's apparent political views.
I'm sure Itoi didn't spend years of his life making a game on three different consoles just to say "unga bunga money bad", especially when the game in question is a sequel to earthbound, which is much kinder to the concept of capitalism.
the only anti-capitalist games from the west so far that I've played are Red Faction (it more just borrows the aesthetics from what I remember) and that one game where you live in a small town with a bunch of animals with light platforming
Ok so, again, what is he comparing Mother 3 to? "Its okay when Japan does it" but its not okay when who does it? And what does "it" even mean in this context? I was asking if he was genuinely comparing the plot of Mother 3 to the shoehorned "social commentary" of games like Wolfenstein 2.
>work yourself to the bone when you're young
>dad is always at work
>funds you an endless supply of money for wrecking shit
>you use that money to buy weapons and win the game
it is pretty pro-capitalist
cool
user, I think you need to go outside. Talk with some really nice people. Go to a bar, make some friends, but drink responsibly. And if not, then have someone sober drive you home. Just fucking live a little, Christ.
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Y E S
Found the retard.
>Heck, the way Lucas acquire PSI is a sexually suggestive scene with a old trannie dude naked on a hitspring
no you fucking idiot, Lucas holds his breath underwater until he almost passes out, and that shocks the PSI out of him
>dyke Kumatora
She's not gay, dude. She just prefers anal.
I request proof
ok,just try not to post blobtora like what happened yesterday
Well, I'm convinced
you can like a game while disliking other parts of it, fag
>one cannot hold the idea that capitalism has positive and negative aspects and that there is a healthy approach to capitalism and an unhealthy approach to capitalism
>incapable of understanding that the critique of capitalism is a critique more-so of a social attitude that comes from the misdirection and manipulation of people into a negative form of profit over people ideology.
>he thinks you can't have concerns about and criticize capitalism without rejecting it in totality as a working economic system.
look at this brainlet and laugh at him.
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>I am your brother
Earthbound is all about childhood and growing up. You traverse fantastical landscapes, encounter aliens, made-up animals and Saturday morning cartoon monsters. Your main objective is overcoming your inner demons and facing the terrifying, alien and incomprehensible force known as "Giygas", who makes intimate, borderline sexual remarks during the entire final battle and his final form quite clearly resembles a fetus.
On top of this the game reminds you multiple times that, no matter how tough the challenge gets, you should just enjoy yourself.
I hate capitalism anyway. What I take issue with is faggots and non whites in games.
>Should've never been released
Good thing it wasn't, then
>who makes intimate, borderline sexual remarks during the entire final battle and his final form quite clearly resembles a fetus.
oh look, its a faggot whose first exposure to Earthbound was "TOP TEN MOST SCARIEST VIDEO GAME BOSSES OF ALL TIME" on youtube
>you should just enjoy yourself.
LEAVE YOUR 9-5 UP ON THE SHELF, AND JUST ENJOY YOURSELF.
That's not weed lucas!
>Mother 3 is literally Varg Vikernes: the game
im going to kill you
im going to FUCKING kill you
Itoi has stated in multiple interviews that the Giygas fight is inspired by the sense of confusion, helplessness and the horror derived from those emotions he experienced seeing a rape scene in a movie when he was younger, you fucking idiot plebeian.
ummm, no sweetie. that's just a theory.
a gay theory.
Which one should i go for?
I played Mother 3 before I got into politics. I never noticed an anti-capitalist notion. What makes people say that?
I thought it was people were focusing too much on escapism rather than confronting problems and spending time with loved ones.
B looks a bit more faithful.
I'm trying to color the black and white one, but the way they drew the vagoo is confusing me a bit
true, it's a fascist video game
>game has explicitly anti-capitalist message
It literally doesnt
Try again brainlet
>where they work
>I didnt play the game
And you got 100 replies from idiots, amazing
Anyways Itoi is a leftist which in Japan means something different than in the west but the message is not anti capitalism
B but remove the pillow shading on her hair
Itoi has been skeptical of greed and technology for ages. He used to be prolific copywriter after all, he's seen the sausage factory up close.
It's okay for media to have messages and undertones that are critical of society. Just because they can be categorized as left-leaning on the political spectrum doesn't invalidate the work. I know it's popular for newfags to hate games purely on this kind of shit, or retroactively misinterpret universally acclaimed games to fit their world view. It objectively isn't a fulfilling way to conduct your hobby, you end up ruining your fun and losing out on great things.
>mfw i realize Fassad was the last Magypsie