Mods = fags edition. Stop deleting video games.
wasnt there supposed to be a patch today? whats taking those swedes so long?
Stop randomly jumping.
Brace of pistols best gun.
Played with some triggered butthurt people today lmao
OLD RANGER DICKS
posting video games
Faggot, you're meant to be posting epic and funny meme threads, not this gay shit.
Is this game good?
pretty good for 26$, planned DLC and Modkit 2.0 support
It sold 500,000 copies in its first week and barely anyone here talks about it. If no e-celeb makes some clickbait drama video about a game it's gonna get ignored by neo-Sup Forums.
What the fuck is wrong with elf players man
How many old ranger dicks does it take to learn an old ranger trick?
I just suck.
Don't know how to get the grimoires or anything.
This is starting to fuck me off. Dump ages into a run, grab loot dice, every tome and grimoire but fuck up at the end because someone doesn't help with ressing and you get jack shit for your effort
Jeez, I hope this isn't a game that needs to be on my ssd.
500k copies is a lot
Except it's like 30 something you double nigger
I dunno what you're downloading but it's not Vermintide 2 considering the game is 35gb.
barely anyone here talks about it
constant threads per day ever since release
Not even the first game is that big
It's simply not that good. It's the type of game that gets boring after a few hours because the combat has absolutely no depth.
It is for a game with barely any marketing and from a small as fuck studio.
some games need more space to unpack...
Could a fellow elf player recommend a good rat dildo?
t. only played Ironbreaker on Veteran
I'M A FIRESTARTER
Barely anyone here talks about it.
Almost always a thread in the catalog.
Is the sidearm gun on the rapier worth using at all?
Bounty Hunter if it matters
i-it's not like i like you s-stupid lumberfoot
Yeah, which is why they recommend you to have 45gb free. Still a big difference from your "game takes 60gb+" claim.
what is marketing cost
what is publishing cost
what is development cost
500k in under a week for such a small studio is a fuckload, you don't know shit.
What is it about Kerillian that attracts rushing autists?
whoever made that is going in the book
30 dollar game that blows 60 dollar "AAA" titles out of the fucking water
Mod support and more content planned as well
It's really only useful for killing lone trash mobs.
"why isn't your dick 10 inches?" thread reaches 200 posts
vidya related threads die or get removed
Sup Forums needs to be saved
implying it isnt
especially for a tiny studio with next to zero marketing
A lot of people want badly for this game to be an FPS and Kerillian is the only character whose starting class can get by with mostly ranged attacks. She's also the "coolest" looking character by normie standards. Bardin's starting class is supposed to be a ranger too but the only way it has to recover ammo early game is ammo drops that anyone can pick up so good luck getting your hands on those.
for a warhammer game by a small studio that is a ASSLOAD of copies dwari
but all the rushing autists play slayer?
successfully rolled that <1% chance just to fuck your shit up
It's pretty good. Well worth the price at the very least. Almost worth it just for the banter.
She looks ashy as shit in 2. Don't know what they did to her face but holy moly she needs some lotion.
Spear is a really fun weapon, like it more than the Halberd.
Just keep posting and participating in vidya threads and report and hide shitty meme threads. Be the change.
Okay I'm buying it right now. Thought I'd get bored quickly with the amount of levels but shit, now it's gonna be endless.
The Glaive is even better, go for it.
when you take the Slayer's oath but you have MPB
who greenlit that skin holy shit
Talents for Zealot?
If you haven't yet, be sure to use the spear's push attack, it's wide swing that is amazing at dealing with hordes.
SYCHOMYKE joins the game
getting tomes and grims on vet, no big deal ez
picks up a tome, there are two drotz near it
"anyone picking up these draughts" *sighs*
5 seconds later: "another game with IDIOTS"
threads up every day all day
barely anybody talks about it
Where the fuck have you been?
There was supposed to be a hot fix to stop the rattling gunners from shooting through closed doors and windows.
Not him but the glaive is too slow.
What exactly is an illusion on a weapon? Maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing anything special.
A lot of illusions are currently bugged and don't actually have a different skin. Normally though illusions have more extravagant and ornate looking models than the vanilla ones.
Some look unique, some look excactly the same as standard.
Matter of luck.
I didn't get any different illusions till today, got some very cool flamethrower illusion.
it oneshots slaves on champion, that's that
Bardin looks like a fucking clown with that.
I used the Glaive a lot in VT1 if I was elf counterpicking. Any different moves? or same old swing swing, charged chop chop with every move only being to kill 1 rat per hit.
Is it purely a post-SCP spam or slightly before this that the mods actually began interpreting /vg/'s purpose as a place to actually discuss videogames
I can't remember them shifting the 24/7 Besiege, Darkest Dungeon, MGQ Part 3, etc. off the catalog back when they were always taking up a slot in the catalog
grinded to 600 power
now can roll any 300 orange I like for all characters, have shitloads of mats
Okay what's the point of playing now? Is there at least a flag when you complete all cata missions like the first game?
To have fun?
STOP SHOOTING ME KRUBER.
Why the fuck does morale boost do friendly fire
top 4 specs for champion+?
I'm new to vermintide and breezed through everything using elf with poison bow, but apparently champion has FF
Damn, how many hours are you guys playing? I was playing closed test since day one and I'm just now hitting 500 power on my highest level character. Guess I need to step it up.
Which is funny because roughly half of the /vg/ threads aren't about video games at all.
How well does this game run on toasters?
Can it run on minimum settings with integrated Iris 640?
It seems as if they're pretending to be consistent now that they've hounded SCP threads off the board because they're just now targeting the fire emblem heroes threads that have been 24/7 on Sup Forums for over a year
Judging from what he is saying you cried all game and are now trying to shame his steam profile because he called you out. Absolutely heretical.
How do I "git gud" boyos?
Enjoy user, even without mods right now there is a fuckton to do involving levelling characters and getting some strong weapons and shit
That image is actually real.
Both the steam forums and Reddit have massive threads about nerfing "toxic" Kerillian
I have about 60 hours played, just leveled up different characters and opened all the commendation chests after I finished grinding veteran.
Generals belong on /vg/.
has good load times on a HDD
Champion is just veteran with more elite enemies and specials with a higher power cap and friendly fire. It's not that much harder believe me. You don't have to worry about meta specs until you start doing legend but if reddit whining is anything to go by legend will probably be nerfed before you reach it.
For legend the top specs right now are Ironbreaker, bounty hunter, and pyromancer. 4th slot literally doesn't matter because IB frontlines everything while the other two delete all threats from 1000 yards away.
Practice killing rats with out taking damage.
Remember the sound cues when a special attacks and try to take it out.
Learn the attack patterns of the bosses
STAY WITH THE SLOWEST MEMBER OF YOUR TEAM
IT DOESN'T MATTER
Know your weapons.
Watch out for your mates.
Forget about the green circles.
I don't mind Kerrilian character wise, it's just that for some reason they use her shittiest voice lines over and over again instead of mixing it up. Also she talks WAY too much compared to other heroes.
It's not any slower than a two hander sword or axe on other characters
You're just used to most of elf's other weapons being fast as fuck
Once you get used to it it's fucking godlike, you can cleave stormvermin in half, blow up bosses, cleave hordes and trash chaos warriors in an instant
It also has shield breaking which is really nice
New console game
3 threads a day for months
New PC game
Generals belong on /vg/
it's not a general you stupid faggot
game come out at 8th of this month, there will be a discussion about it
This, its coming to consoles and will have threads for ages. Not a word of making a general will be uttered.
That's just depressing. Her being a bitch is fully in-character as both a Wood Elf and generally just the bitter, cursed, exiled outcast she is.
Its not new, it has had discussion threads ever since closed beta
Im not even a part of this thread, i just saw your post while scrolling Sup Forums
I can never hear morale boost's voice lines, as every time I use it someone yells about friendly fire.
you guys love to meme elf but sienna/dwarf on champ makes me wanna strangle a baby
Faggots belong in /y/
Waystalker, Ironbreaker, Foot Knight, Bounty Hunter and Pyromancer are arguably the best careers for each class right now
did they forget to send the patch out or what?
Hear a new line between Bardin and Kruber
Bardin gets wise and Kruber starts to responD
THIS WAY LUMBERFOOTS
its all the VT1 people trying to keep up the "lol elf sucks" meme when in actuality she is the most ezmode character in the game.
Yea I've done a few runs on champ already, but the poison bow seems to annoy the randoms I'm playing with, it's near impossible to not tag them with it on accident.
Thank you. I guess I'll level up Pyro then, since that's more my style.
not even a week in after the release
people are already crying /vg/
I guess you're not fucking supposed to discuss video games on this board
Yeah fuck off, no
I don't get this faggots either and mods are somehow fine with this, guess Sup Forums is not for video games after all.
nope, go to /vg/
but i guess you like your little thread being spammed where you're unable to talk about the game
what a conundrum
THIS WAY LUMBERFOOTS
That line's the best when literally your entire team is ahead of you.
Only Nintendo threads allowed on Sup Forums
The game is too repetitive for that, its like playing diablo without the loot.
Gotta make room for shitty clickbait threads yeah.
Not him but fuck both of you, Ironbreaker's great and this game's fun as fuck. Suck on my drakefire nuts.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT ENDING OF EMPIRE IN FLAMES THAT SUDDENLY GETS EVERYONE KILLED
FOR FUCKS SAKE IT'S CHAMP ALREADY AND THOSE RETARDS STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT GAS RAT?
Unless I manage to kill fucker 90% of my runs ends in wipe.
if we dont have at least 6 threads every day talking about subnautica el goblino the jews will push us over the fiscal cliff
It's a thread about a single game that immediately gets remade the second the last disappears, it's a general. Sorry. Go to /vg/.
What video games are allowed to be discussed here then? What's the fucking criteria?
Honestly its incredible. One time when running some friends through it, we even were on voip, they still managed to get split up and downed after ignoring all my orders.
Which one of you anons actually named yourselves "Chad Zealot"?
Hunger in the Dark
Empire in Flames
I just want to quickplay other maps.
he doesn't know
Every top elf on legend runs handmaiden or shade. All 3 elf classes are really good though so you can't go wrong.
Buy me this game so I can play with you.
I just did EMPIRE IN FLAMES on Champ today few times.
You need good team that knows what it is doing.
It's hard with pubs tho, make sure you have one friend with you who will keep your back.
you stupid fucking faggot, game just came out so this type of continous threads will happen till people are done discussing whatever there was to discuss.
by that logic every single new released game has to be moved to /vg/ right after the very first thread is done.
thinking the chad meme is Sup Forums exclusive
senpai how late are you
You can say the same about every goddamned thread on Sup Forums. Take a look at the fucking catalog you autist.
Why? Shade seems like by a wide margin the weakest for how often enemies will just ignore the cooldown ability. I mean yeah it can sometimes save the day if your team gets dunked on but for how long the cooldown is it's not something you will want to use outside of the the occasional death or glory scenario.
Fucking what. Every top elf on Legend runs Waystalker as she is her best ranged career and that's what Legend needs.
Tell me, why do you think Shade would be better? Waystalker can easily outdps a shade on bosses if she gets headshots.
And Handmaiden is meme tier trash.
I'unno, you tell me.
Even worse, you can save your team more often on Handmaiden since she can dash/block her way to downed allies. Shade's got good damage for bosses, but it's too finicky in most situations.
are dagger and beam staff the best sienna weapons?
I don't play elf, this is what I'm reading on the game's outlets. /vg/, leddit, fatshark forums, etc. Everyone thinks Waystalker is the worst elf spec for legend for some reason and I don't know why. Probably because some twitch streamer ran legend as handmaiden or something.
Is this going in the book?
Longsword and Bolt staff are also very good choices. The Flaming Sword could be her best melee weapon but is very hard to handle compared to the other ones with constant block-cancel bullshit to be viable which is, in my opinion, just not worth it.
Beam is literally no fun to use, Flamer is absolutely the best for Pyro, Bolt or Fireball are for Unchained.
Fire Sword is really good, but I prefer the Dagger, yeah.
Well you shouldnt read those outlets as 99% of them dont actually play legend and they get their impressions from veteran or whatever.
The amount of misinformation in these threads as well is staggering.
Discussing video games on Sup Forums
Fuck off faggot
Everyone thinks Waystalker is the worst elf spec for legend for some reason
Everyone's really stupid apparently. Waystalker is amazing for being able instagib specials and almost never having to worry about rationing ammo. I group with a waystalker constantly and he never runs out of ammo unless we're doing a deed with increased horde spawns.
t. Biggest shitter in the thread
The flamer is worthless and while beam might not be fun for you, its objectively the strongest choice by a large margin.
Fireball is useless on Champ and above, Flamer is lacklustre due to no ranged options, Bolt is better on Pyro than on Unchained. Learn the game my man.
that was my gnome hair in wow
The sad thing is that fatshark reads and acknowledges those outlets (aside from /vg/ probably) so those are where the majority of the game balancing ideas are going to come from.
go play Boderlands then this game isn't about loot. If you had played the first one you'd know that, the loot system was an absolute garbage fire
Flamer is lacklustre due to no ranged options
That's why you equip it on Pyro, you double raki.
playing a male gnome when perfect qt3.14 female gnomes exist
t. never ventured above Veteran
tfw on the launch dev stream two lead designers struggled to clear a recruit mission and admitted they're going to look to the player base when balancing because the internal testers are fucking awful
Just kill me now senpai
So, game had 70k peak players and was 6th most played game on steam and there are only 5-6 people that dropped cosmetic so far. That's insane, I understand they are meant to be unique but this is too much.
little Tim tries his first post on the 4chainz
I hope you aren't implying that the flamer is hard to use with FF.
Just finished two Champ games with Flamer Pyro and 3 tomes /2 grims on both, by the way.
No one is running legend, everyone is too afraid.
That's what we call a general sweetie. Maybe don't be such a blatant retard and mods won't delete the threads.
Benefits from blessed shots
Counts as a melee kill so as long as you kill your target you have infinite crits
Gee, I dunno.
I did legend 3 times and got worse gear than from champion chest. They should be easier to drop even from champ
No, I'm implying that even with a short as fuck CD the Flaming Skull isn't nearly enough to properly handle all the specials and elites on Champ and higher.
trying to complete skittergate on champ
fail at final boss every single time
i fucking hate these shitty damage sponge fights
Are you retarded? Fireball is one of the best staves flamestorm is good at what it does but it's 1 dimensional so it's not great. The only staff that isn't very good right now is the conflag
Champ is doable with fucking anything
Your number one priority should be damage avoidance
Your second priority should be killing specials if feasible
Your last priority should be killing trash
get skittergate on champ last night, last boss is taking 10 years to kill because our party is all low damage melee heavy characters
after his mount finally goes down he teleports into a corner
the foot knight charges him to close the distance
the charge knocks him off the map and he dies from near full health
That entire map is a buggy mess but that was a good laugh and the icing on the cake to an overall bad run
All of them? No, it's for emergencies. The rest of the party is already focusing on specials, Flamer allows you to clear space for them and deal with entire hordes effortlessly in the process.
blow up the manor
home stretch to the finish line
surprise Chaos Spawn
I didn't want to win that round anyway.
I was in a game where I killed about 3x more things than him (while taking less than half the damage) and he criticized me for reviving him when there was an enemy still alive (that I was blocking with block-revive).
Idk what the fuck happened there my phone does weird shit
you're probably a terrible person.
You do realizes that at that point you can just run to the finish, right? Bosses can be ignored AFAIK so long as the current objective is to reach the shadowbridge. I definitely know it's possible to do so on manor since my group constantly ignores last second bosses on that map.
Haven't been playing for very long, but friendly fire is only on champion right? I've just been pissing fire all over the place with no regard for my teammates, but it seems to be working out so far.
Chaos Spawn outta no where
we all run to the end
some poor sods get eaten or downed
I ain't picking that shit.jpg
still managed to finish mission
better shitty Merchant Coffer and XP than nothing.
aint devs stated it's a bugged lvl
What's the best way of picking up someone when a boss is whaling on them?
Could the first mod made be one that makes the dwarf not look like a rat.
block and hope you are not in aoe damage of their autistic rage fit
Stand behind the boss or have someone pull aggro
doesnt help that its bugged right now
Once Bounty Hunter reaches level 15 he is the strongest hero in the game.
Unlimited ammo and constant crits
When will they nerf?
Only on champion/legendary yeah. Friendly fire isnt a major problem for most ranged weapons once you realize to take an angle and how people like to move. Dwarfs never fucking stop jumping for example.
Be Ironbreaker or Foot Knight. If you're not one of those characters you should have enough dps to get the boss to deaggro the downed player so someone else can resurrect them.
Why the fuck would you waste Blesses shot on that shit pistol when you can fire 3 piercing arrows in one shot?
"i killed 3x more"
spotted autist elf #12903789123789
Dwarfs never fucking stop jumping for example.
The first level a lot of us played was Against the Grain during the pre-order beta and I still haven't been able to shake the habit of jumping alot after doing that mission probably 50+ times in the beta.
I just tried Into the Nest on Veteran with 3 randoms.
Can someone explain to me what kind of sadistic sociopath was in charge of leve design on this game? This is worse than brapmancer halebrap for fuck’s sake.
Is against the granary harder than the other starter maps? Me and my friends got fucked up multiple times there
Lol sigmar is laughing at you
What is your wealth earned as a bounty hunter compared to my eternal salvation as a zealot.
finally unlocked Punished Saltzpyre
tfw the only armor I need is Sigmar
Sigmar was a man. Not a God.
lol actually ironbreaker dwarf
Come on man, just put in A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. My first time playing this stupid game I knew all the grimoires and tomes on the first map because I googled "vermintide tome grimoire locations". It literally took 5 minutes to memorize the locations in a map.
Holy shit this game is a lot more popular than the first one. What improved so much?
Lol this fucking heretic
spoiling the game
Walkthroughs and Guides were a mistake.
People like you then cry “WAAAH NO CONTENT”
not finding them yourself
I obviously don't know jack shit about video games or the industry but for some reason I come to Sup Forums
Fuck off reddit
Another disconnect lads. Please don't host if your internet is shit
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Against the grain is a pretty swingy map based on spawns. It's really common to just get absolutely fucked - especially early on - but not really uncommon to never really run into a major issue. It's probably the easiest map to get tomes/grims on for being somewhat shorter than most and not having many difficult sections once you get to the ending sections. Like I don't know if I've ever had a run fail after the obligatory barn boss aside from one or two runs where like one guy was left standing after it.
He was a man.
Total warhammer happened and made a lot of people fall in love with warhammer. It probably helps that a lot of streamers have been playing the game pretty religiously.
To be fair some of them are really well hidden. I forget which map it is, but on one of them there's some inconspicuous looking wooden posts near a ruined house that looks like an inaccessible area with nothing inside it. You have to do some really tight platforming onto the first pole, jump into the house, crawl into a hole, grab the grim which is otherwise completely hidden underground, and then unlock a door to escape.
If you were to try something similar on Empire in Flames or one of the other city maps you'd end up in an actual inaccessible area and be unable to escape (something that happened often in the beta when people were still grim hunting)
Saltzpyre is not coolest
"The crime is your foul existence, and the sentence is death!"
"He is strangling the elf! That is my job!"
Elf in v1 was babbymode even on cataclysm. However in both games the biggest shitters are levitating toward her.
She's also the "coolest" looking character by normie standards
Yeah the fully armored soldier with the great hat, or the witch hunter don't look cooler to normies.
What's the best voice line and why is it the Elf's reaction to Sienna's death
Sienna, you were the least annoying one...
The Voice Directors deserve a major raise for finding his VA.
Everyone is good, but saltzpyre is just on another level.
At one point, yes.
Than pulled a Tiber Septim and became a God.
Some ponce with a feathered hat and awful facial hair and the matrix reject holocaust survivor
cool looking to your average non-warhammer nerd
in both games the biggest shitters are levitating toward her.
What is this meme?
There is absolutely nothing worse in this game than a Slayer Dwarf. I instantly vote kick them as soon as I see one.
no versus mode
Who cares? The beta seemed fine for what it was, but no way I'd play this outside of a LAN party
Yeah, it is. He's the closest thing to a fully armored soldier.
Most normies won't even play women if there are other characters available.
Versus is shit in every single game.
PvP is a mistake. Go back to l4d's awful, disgusting community.
Beamstaff is objectively the strongest staff
long range fuck hordes
close range fuck hordes extra
somehow it also has a 3rd attack that one hits stormvermin on legend
You'd be retarded not to use it
Nobody likes you
hahaha, triggered elf main.
elf is an anime dual wielding waifu legolas. refresh Sup Forums and scroll down and tell me how many pictures of dudes in cool hats you find attracting everyone.
Lmao enjoy playing bootleg ironbreaker. No one is going to carry you at legend
Best staff but I don't think it's fun to use
Sup Forums are normies
Got it, you have no idea what a normie is.
Check out reddit, filled with those in there. Also, stay there.
Her reaction to Markus' is pretty good too.
For Kruber's sake, I hope Sigmar is real.
One less mouth breather to put up with.
I actually like Saltz axe on Zealot
Charge attacks easily kills Stormvermin
ALL attacks penetrate armor on any part of a Chaos Warrior
easy 1-2-3-block rhythm for hordes
Dunno what that has to do with Slayers being absolute trash, though.
Idk why retards even pretend the pistol is good. It has zero uses and it deals less damage on crit. Other than pulling distant enemies for free it's practically worthless. It really needs a buff
Go back to l4d's awful, disgusting community.
t. rage quitter
Kerillian players might be garbage, but damn if her VA isn't good. The grunts and combat sounds are top notch too.
Also, she really brings to life how hateful and awful wood elves are in the warhammer universe.
I don't know user, last game that spouted off a $30 price tag, with none of that $60 bullshit didn't really go over well.
friend who is shit at every game plays the magic bitch and overheats at any given opportunity
always have a bot following us
What class can I carry this disaster with?
hateful and awful wood elves are in the warhammer universe.
They just really wanna be left alone user.
Is this really just PvE? It looked interesting, but if it's just that then I'd rather just stick to Diablo
It's PvE if you have friends, PvP if you're playing with randoms.
Is this supposed to be a parody of Last Supper?
A silent takedown is the best takedown, deal with your shitter friend and replace with a bot.
That's because you need to be good to play slayer. Waystalker comparatively plays itself.
BH or waystalker since sienna is taken
you need to be good to play slayer
Good slayer players don't exist.
did you figure that out all by yourself, Sherlock?
Literally slaughtered every innocent human they came across on their way across the land to go kill an unrelated Beastlord.
Just want to be left alone.
pretending to be consistent
yeah pretending is right, i saw actual porn threads and literal /leftypol/ threads hit bump limit but god forbid some video games leak out of /vg/ to avoid stagnation, discords, circlejerk and tripniggers
Then who is supposed to be Judas?
Mods are useless trash edition? Dumbasses crying general edition when?
They got in the way
Bounty hunter can carry any game at any difficulty if they can pry 1 or 2 assassins off of you if you fuck up
Okay, but they are still assholes. Elves in general are assholes in the Warhammer universe, but wood elves are especially so. But at least Wood elves and high elves are just assholes and not so rapey and murderous as the dark elves.
Ironbreaker or Foot Knight. You are basically invincible outside of Legend or maybe some really bad pulls on Champion. I routinely save bad pub games as Ironbreaker solely because I cannot die and have 8 gorllion stamina shields so I always get revives off when someone fucks up. By the way you can block while reviving, super important to know and the game doesn't teach you that.
What? No you tard. It's a parody of Vermeer's Girl with a Pearl Earring.
Literally everyone and about a billion other rats off screen. The entire point of skaven society is to fuck over everyone around you constantly.
headshot crits with the highest damaging weapon still does less than the regular beam damage
They do but they don't play with randoms because not being able to deal with specials or relying shitters to do it is a recipe for disaster
Kerillian is actually pretty nice compared to her race. Think about that.
I mean there are 3 kinds of elves in WHF.
High Elves, who are kind of dicks, but will ally with you if push comes to shove.
Wood Elves, who are dicks, probably won't ally with you ever, but if you stay out of their forest, and its surroundings, they'll most likely never go out of their way to kill you.
Dark Elves, who are super dicks, who will always hate you.
Wood Elves aren't murderous
Go mad once a year and slaughter everyone even close to the forest.
The point of Last Supper is the that the traitor is among Jesus's closest followers and was by his side. If everyone is on the same side with the Horned Rat then there is no Judas. It was a bad parody
Both wrong. Not an elf main, and good slayer players don't exist. Random or not.
Idk what weapon that is my man but with infinite ammo and crit you can easily have three times the damage than a pyro.
violating the NAP
Not in pugs no.
That'd be the crossbow for the bh and no you can't
9 hours played
goes on champ
'where are books'
Why the fuck isn't there a host option that lets you kick people
Those are good humans that know their place.
You see? It's not so difficult to get along with u- uh, the wood elves.
host is a level 30 Slayer
I'm bit apprehensive to step into the bridge of shadows but this guy is level 30 so surely he knows what he's doing
chaos warrior patrol early in the map, slayer leaps straight into the middle of 4 of them and goes down before he can drop a single one, didn't block once
This and warhammer total war got me seriously in to these fantasy genre, I especially love the skaven concept.
Any one have links to read the books specifically Queek Headtaker? I was gonna order it but its like $70
They weren't. The Elves left Athel Loren chasing a Beastlord to the mountains, passed through human lands and just slaughtered them because they happened to be there, outside the forest, away from the forest, not even close to the forest, but just happened to be on the path.
So did they say anything about how the DLC will work for this? Is it like VT1, where only one person out a group had to purchase the maps and the rest could play, just not host?
I don't really see myself dropping money every time a couple of new maps get released.
Books and grims are irrelevant until you start getting lvl 300 gear. Everything else'll just get replaced after a couple of successful runs. Focus on winning runs as fast as possible and then worry about collecting loot.
None of the five hundred thousand people that bought the game are good slayers. No one. There isn't a good slayer player in the game. Deal with it already.
OKAY YOU DUMB IDIOTS. I'LL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE
But better chests early means better gear early means faster runs
Why the fuck isn't there a host option that lets you kick people
Normally votekick should be enough.
I said they aren't as murderous as the dark elves.
just read actually good books bro.
It's the PLATZ POP
I could give you a free ride through legend if you don't think so. BH with exploit is broken af
tfw carrying champ games because I rape chaos warriors in less than a second
Then what's in me iron breakers little chest
What's the exploit then
check /tg/ for the megas that have all that shit scanned
I was going to buy the standard (not starter) edition of For Honor for $20 since I'm bored. Should I get this instead? This looks fun but it looks like it might get boring fast.
try it for yourself
Pull out volleyxbow
Switch to melee before bolts hit for a free crit
Repeat for infinite crits
I play FH. It's fun but you won't like it as much as this. It's also going to die even harder unless they do something about Shaman.
If you have friends the game is amazing. If you're playing with randoms then you probably won't have nearly as much fun.
Are you being funny?
Enjoy your 80 hour grind to get there I guess man
I have never once been able to kick on of these drags except I'm premade with the other two
People are either too dull to notice how the other guy is doing or too dull to care
Like i said. Infinite ammo and crits. You don't have to reload and all shots are crits. Deletes everything on sight. Melee weapon is decoration.
i have 20 hrs played and i've got every character to level 10 and one of them to level 24 (dorf)
I played on veteran for 90% of this time and my chests are in the 230 range now
tl;dr ur a niga
Do you just stack crit % on everything?
haha wow look at me Sup Forums I killed a chaos warrior that was completely alone and isolated with the ability that is actually meant to kill bosses aren't i so cool and good
i mean more power to you buddy but most slayers do this shit and fling themselves into a horde and get fucking destroyed and then cry about elves
Never forget SCP:SL killed by mods, this game will suffer the same fate should things persist.
unpopular opinion: grimoires and tomes are a momentum breaking mechanic and should just be toggles pre-game for half health and no health pick ups. puts everyone on the same page, doesn't require online look ups or extensive solo level combing.
prove me wrong
No. Bh has passive that gives 100% crit on next ranged attack. At 15 it prevents consuming your ammo. You just keep this up forever by exploiting weapon switch. You easily get 15k+ dmg done in legend if you kill everything and run a bit fast
No health picks ups is quite the jump the difficulty
*kills your into the nest run*
the ability with the shortest cooldown in the game
literally up again before its effects are gone
meant to kill boss
implying the ability was even relevant in the first place
LMAO the shitters on this board I swear
it makes you move a tiny bit quicker
teaching noobs where everything is every other game is while RNG spawns shit on you is arguably a higher jump
Ye those are shit. Most of them don't know you can block while jumping. If you want to leap into a horde you need tobland infront of it. Get in middle and you're just stuck even if they are stunned
I agree. I could see them being a risk/reward type of a mechanic if their spawn was randomized and you had to actually put in some effort to find them. However going down the same """""secret""""" tunnel that stopped being secret on day 1 to pick up some fucking book that you know is going to be there every time is more obnoxious than anything.
Also: this game would be a lot better if it actually had some randomness to the map layout like L4D did.
She needs you to help apply lotion all over her body, user.
because her bf Squeakstabbr is coming down soon to pound her
into the nest is even worse than against the grain in levels of bullshit
worse than fucking brapspew halescourge
You just keep this up forever by exploiting weapon switch.
What do you mean? You still have to kill shit with your melee weapon to reset the cd, so it's not an "exploit" by any stretch of the imagination. Or is there a bug that resets the cd on weapon switch?
If I didn't play the first one but I liked L4D and I'm into Warhammer role and roleplaying will I enjoy the game?
If you have friends, sure.
fucking pyromancers trying to kill every single mob on the map by themselves
you know, randomizing them into one of the 1902839012389 pointless empty boxes on each map wouldn't be too shabby of an idea. i think you're onto something.
Well what do you think? If you have killed anything with the rapier pistol as bounty hunter you would know.
Gonna pass on this one then
loot dices are RNG
jumping puzzles to find tomes
Some maps have very small differences in layout. The one with biggest differences is bracshenbrucke. 4 different paths on that
is it worth it to get on ps3
bile troll gets stuck against a wall
have to restart the run
Oh user, they are a risk/reward mechanic
They looked at the mistakes they made with VT1 and said "let's make them again".
Protip, water actually slows you and jumping puts you back at normal movement speed until your feet hit the water again.
loot dices are RNG
This is fine, there being a weird hard cap of 2 is dumb. There is not enough incentive to not just rush the optimal path.
I am okay with this since there isn't a really bad one, but I would rather see more shit like the suspicious bricks in the forest or finding a locked door and trying to find the way inside via a jump
want to play slayer because he's fun as fuck
can't play him above veteran because you can't sustain the damage you take
Is there any way I can fix this?
Other than git gud? Nah
Realistically only grims are and even then the "risk" is purely mathematical and fails to actually facilitate any interesting situations apart from "the retard elf picked up the grim so we wiped". I bet it's a mechanic they came up with, implemented the first iteration and decided not to elaborate on ever again.
Which is a shame considering that this is the fucking sequel and they had an opportunity to do something interesting with it.
Elf misses a bomb
"Where is that skill you are always boasting of elf?"
Elf just growls in return
Salty bringing the heat.
endgame consists on doing 3 tomes 2 grims champion runs and hoping to get a stupidly rare hat or a red.
Salty misses a bomb
Sienna teases him about not hitting a single rat
MAYBE I WAS AIMING FOR YOU
They’re so pure.
not farming legend with your best mates
shitter baka get outta here
I am okay with this since there isn't a really bad one
Go fuck yourself mate that lamppost jumping in Empire in Flames is fucking retarded.
Why have I gotten about 25 exotic trinkets/charms and not a single weapon?
Just craft it, you double nigger. The loot you get from runs is completely irrelevant outside of increasing your max seen equipment power level.
Slayer Bardin joins the road warriors
WHAT A RUSH
Kruber did you hit anything?
"I think I saw one of them limping away, sir"
They put *lies* within the subtitle's sentence
I really wish Elf wasn't such bullshit, no Wutelgi parties almost never happen.
shouldn't be taking that grimm anyway since 90% of pubs wipe on the following part
Elf goes down
All Sienna says as she rezzes her is "Lumberfoot"
Who cares man?
It's like 40 scrap to boost a green to orange, and all you get out of it is some dinky trait for a few games before you replace it
Wutelgi is fun
Honestly I might as well make a guide for shittergate boss, the amount of people who don't understand the basics of the fight is astounding and wiping 8/10 times on him any difficulty is getting annoying.
Let's be honest here, you shouldn't be taking any grims on most maps on champion in the first place. It's especially hilarious when some bumblefucks take grims on Burblespew's map and then get wiped within the first two minutes of the fight wihout even bringing him down to half hp.
Did you ever consider that people might be wiping because their characters are built around their talents/trinkets, and not having them makes the class worthless?
Because Handmaiden without her stamina regen is worthless
Is form of the Fire Wind bugged? It doesn't seem like it actually increases overcharge.
This but here comes the best part
>Quickplay reconnects him back
it takes 20 hours to get good
Quick play champion
"That fat bastard Halesc-"
skaven are the chinks of warhammer fb
playing a game as dwarf to get commendation boxes
reach the brapritual
as it’s finishing my light goes out for a split second because there’s a storm
This is going into the fucking Book
The tier 4 recipe is bugged, says 50 but requires 20
jump around in Ussingen on lanterns/wooden bars
jump into window
get stuck inside due to invisible wall
cant jump out
team dies but no one can touch me
have to dc
Great game very nice with the jumping puzzles bullshit :^))))))))))))))))
If everyone is on the same side with the Horned Rat
is there anything in this game that isnt bugged? jesus christ, this game is so rushed but its still fun
Lose both grims and two tomes at the end of Into the Nest because gutter runner pinning someone knocks back people with the force of a fucking nuke.
waystalker plays itself
the career that has the worst passive and the weakest talent tree plays itself
not the "press F to delete boss + infinite ammo" BH
not the "lol gg no re horde" ironbreaker/flamethrower sienna
not the "knock everything over until the cows come home" knight
no, it's waystalker that is the easiest career
this elf hate meme is unreal. i genuinely do not believe that these people have played a single minute of the elf in either game purely because of some self-perpetuated superiority complex.
waystalker is a class that has nothing good going for it until you hit 25. the only thing she can do well is headshot specials until she gets the chance to actually regen arrows, at which point she can do some damage to hordes, but still vastly under-performs compared to ironbreaker or sienna. the passive health regen to half is a joke since it takes 10 seconds to get a tick of your health back, you're honestly better off using that crutch trinket than having this weak and useless passive.
but keep saying this gay shit like it's actually something real. keep dividing this community with fake memes and shitty stories of stuff that never happened to perpetuate this myth that elf is ez or "all elf players = bad"
inb4 t. wutelgi
the vast majority of shitters that I've played with aren't ever one specific class. they're always the ones purely focused on grims/tomes who would sooner throw a game or leave than miss one tome or not run off from the group to pick up a grim during a horde
Unlock Foot Knight subclass
Get a Potion of Concentration
Bully bosses till they die
SIR KRUBER HAHA
Wait are slayers really that bad? Only played dwarf so never seen one but I am consistently last one alive/most kills/
Wanna try that now, big guy?
Sweet Jesus. What is that?
Don't even bother user, these shitters will never understand.
I know in VT1 Stormpatrols got bigger the higher the difficulty. But that does not look like a normal game
The beginning of the Age of Sigmar
It is. Probably a deed.
Legend is retarded.
that one is already out
Against the grain is one of the easiest maps in the game.
Is vermintide 1 worth getting?
no it isn't, it was supposed to come out today but didn't
I heard this game is the new Left 4 Dead. Is it really?
I heard the same thing about Payday 2 and that ended up sucking.
*spawns a stormfiend, 2 rothelms, a horde and 2 brapbrothers at the same time as soon as you reach the first barn*
heh nothin personnel kid
Not really at this point.
So what happens when you do a Deed on Legend? Will it turn into that Death Wish difficulty they joked about last year?
It's a great game but I don't imagine many people are playing it any more
How do I deal more damage? Every fucking game I'm the lowest damage with the least amount of specials killed, yet I kill hordes and am always the least damage taken/downed.
Depends on the deed, but replacing all common enemies with elites is a normally part of deeds.
You mean the thing that can literally happen on any map, happened?
Who do you play?
What weapon are you using?
What is your hero level?
Snipe specials and get a weapon great at cleaving hordes.
seems to be way more frequent in against the grain my man
Wood Elves, who are dicks, probably won't ally with you ever, but if you stay out of their forest, and its surroundings, they'll most likely never go out of their way to kill you.
Wood Elves aren't that bad as long as you don't fuck around in their forest. Didn't their King save Franz's life and gift him Deathclaw?
I mean, I know it's because he believed that the Empire was important to prevent Chaos from reaching Athel Loren so it's not like it was charity, but still
Kruber, usually merc
Shield and a mace
That sounds pretty fun actually. How do you get deeds?
I heard this game is the new Left 4 Dead. Is it really?
No, it's the alternate fantasy dimension Left 4 Dead. You've been lied to.
get downed by a chaos warrior on the little walkway before the peasant area in Against the Grain
fall down like 6ft to get to the ground
immediately go down again
party on other side of scaffolding structure
horde has just spawned
post your shames
Thing is they're a bit, uh, uncivilized.
When the Wild Hunt happens it doesn't matter if it's a rat, a cow, a human, a dwarf, they'll kill anything that crosses their path.
And they sometimes raid Bretonnian villages that are near the forest and steal young bretonnian boys IIRC, dunno what for.
They're like, I dunno, a bear. It's not that they're evil, but it's better if you stay away from them.
Does the WH falchion cleave? seems like single target only despite the sweeps.
They go on wild hunts and slaughter anything in their path, including Bretonnian peasants. That aside, Kerillian is just an angsty teenager who's never had a friend in her life. Saltzspyre is her dad, Sienna mum, Dwarf her annoying little brother and Kruber her first crush.
My shame is that I don't know what to do while disrupting the brap ritual in that one map.
It's literally a massive, round platform and there is nothing you can back up to cover your back. I start killing the ones in front, and the ones in the back kill me.
try using rapier again
can't stunlock shit
go back to flail which knocks everyone around
I just wish its charge attacks were less awkward
That's some big rats
Kerillian probably is older than Saltyboi, Kruber and Sienna combined, though.
How do I stop this game from wrecking my CPU
start pushing and relying on your team to cover you
if your team is shit then maybe have a friend and plan together
holding a grim, go and try to grab a tome just as I hear the horde spawning sound
You can guess from there
wish i had a friend
also is push supposed to make climbing enemies fall? i tried it but it doesn't seem to do so
thought beam staff is fucking trash
discover that right click while pressing right mouse button can deal excellent headshot damage
who the fuck would ever discover normally
does 0 damage 2 feet in front of saltzpyre
have to use it point blank
might as well be slashing anyways
Used your blessed shots on your actual gun that does damage.
Is Skittergate bugged or what?
I've gotten it twice through quickplay, once through custom and I always get "Connection Error" on the loading screen.
push makes (some) enemies stumble
if they are not capable of stumbling then finish them off quickly
if you do not have a weapon that can crowd-control effectively then don't crowd-control and back off so the other people in your party can do their fucking job.
i dunno which weapons do crowd control, hue
you're my kind of dawi
not the "press F to delete boss + infinite ammo" BH
How are you guys doing so much damage the with the active? It used to do a shit ton of damage to bosses in the beta now the damage is shit for me.
the weapons that say "crowd control" in the description dumbass
i do crowd control with the spear all the time and it doesn't even say crowd control
Doubtful. A true waywatcher would be so autistic that they'd barely talk much less associate with humans or dwarves. Probably a hundred years old at most.
push makes (some) enemies stumble
Depends on the weapon too. Can't push with Saltzpyre rapier to save my life, but mace and shield kruber can give nearly everything a concussion
In the grim darkness of the ancient past there are only rats
I know it's not the hardest difficulty, but when should I jump into veteran? As soon as I hit 100 HP?
what weapon are you using and are you using +critical power?
its charge attack and one of it's combo attacks are capable of crowd-control but you really should be pushing rather than killing with the spear
probably why it's featured with Handmaiden because she regens stamina so fast
shield and mace
Found your problem friendo.
Halberd or 2H hammer are best for Kruber, in all specs
If you want to use a shield you play the dawi
as soon as you feel comfortable with the game. I'd say once you hit 10. Champion is when you need to be careful
60 hours played so far
not a single fucking non-recruit deed
what the fuck is wrong with my account
Rapier and crossbow. I'm pretty sure I maxed out my crit damage because getting anymore right now doesn't increase the dummy crit damage at all.
Also, aren't Asrai supposed to be humble?
no elf is humble
Come on now. Shield punching rats is way too fun to let the dwarf have it by himself.
why are there so few lewd stuff
Really because the codex describes them as humble.
Which Crossbow? The Volley Crossbow is basically a direct upgrade to the normal Crossbow.
Breathe with me. Weather the storm.
Just unlocked zealot, how do I become credit to team? What starter talents should I get? Should I be using flail as its his signature weapon?
Presence of Saltzpyre eliminates all who try
Pretty much, yeah. It's not really that hard.
How do i handmaiden well on champ/legend?
Spear seems to be the best for the subclass due to the block/push radius but its fucking worthless against armoured units and everything is armoured on legend.
zealot's primary defense is the ability to wallop hordes before they are even capable of damaging him
dodging helps this along too
remember to focus on SURVIVABILITY rather than killing
Nigger, once you get to 25 waystalker plays itself and its currently better than any other class at anything but bosses since it barely loses to BH
once you get the ammo back on F talent you can literally shit on everything in champion by just mindlessly spamming arrows since you dont have to reload they have near infinite range and do a shit ton of damage, they are literally better at horde clearing than the flamethrower if you know how to route hordes to chokepoints
having infinite ammo on the longbow is as broken as beta huntsman since it shits on specials, its great at horde clearing and it does decent damage to bosses, you just take the glaive for heavy armor and you are done with it (you also have your F as a panic button besides recovering half your ammo)
making her passive literally useless for anybody not retarded was the wrong way to nerf her, that ammo on F is what had to go
simply block when they aggro you and try to inflict some damage when they are not
your job is not to kill specials/elites anyway
If anything, the High Elves are the ones supposed to be smug assholes whom think they are destined to save the world much like RL USA. Wood Elves are reclusive, weird and kinda unpredictable. They're certainly not chatty, and a waywatcher is supposed to be the quietest and most solitary of the lot.
When are they going to nerf Pyromancer's ability cooldown into oblivion so I feel less shitty playing Unchained?
if you aren't venting manually then you're playing Sienna wrong
When you kill yourself for perpetuating the nerf mentality
please make everything else shit too so that my shit doesn't stand out
tfw bots are the better than most humans I've played with
being the shield user
whining about not getting leet green circles
If anything Vermintide 2 is the only game the mods are right in moving to /vg/, it would thrive over there
Had a rando in a game of Burblespew on quick match Champion. Level 13 Dwarf. Took a grim without asking, I scolded him for it.
lol dude why wouldnt you take it its not that bad.
We barely survive the fight with everyone but his cowardly ass fucking dieing and him doing fuck all damage as he scrambled to keep his fucking grim.
wow that was a hard boss, first time beating it
The idiocy you run into in this game is fucking astounding. I hope the fucking autist gets hit by a bus.
Shut it knifey
It's Kerillian's true shot with a 40 second timer. There ARE things that should be nerfed.
please let me one shot bosses again, I don't want to actually play the game
nothing is wrong with grabbing a grim at literally any opportunity
go big or go home
amongst other elves, I suppose
tfw no qt waystalker elf girl that stalks you but doesn't understand why
The ability itself is fine, it's the level 25 talent that remove all overcharge when you use the ability that is broken, it completely shit on unchained's ability. Beam staff's way of calculating crit is dumb too.
But that wasn't me friend, I just like punching rats in the face with the shield. I'm just not sure if I want the Mace n Shield for more crowd control or Sword n Shield for fancy sword thrust if an elite survives.
tfw can reliably do champ with bots
champ with players is an unpredictable mess
Just replace humanity with androids at this point, we fucking suck
Are you playing recruit? All the deeds I've found are for the same difficulty as the chest I got them from.
Care to elaborate, queer?
Some of us are not twelve years old and dont have the time to waste on botched runs because kiddies literally cannot fathom not going for every single pickup.
i wanna have fun with elf but i can't
i just feel useless while sienna and bh delete every single special/boss and bardin deletes hordes
what do i do
shut the fuck up about /vg/ before your post gets deleted like
so you're saying that you're not good enough at avoiding damage and so you use your enlarged health as a crutch to not die like a bitch?
Not that user but I fail to see how Vermintide 2 threads stay up while SCP threads (and recently Kirby threads) get deleted for the same reason. One might assume its for marketing purposes, or just blatant favoritism from the mods
play handmaiden and be the invincible resurrection bitch to the rest of the team
Cunt, its the fucking first thing you learn in this game that if you are a fucking solo queue ask before you start picking grims. Your git gud bullshit does not fucking fly, you just want an excuse to be a fucking rude cunt because your mom's boyfriend didnt beat you enough after he fucked you.
so you're bad, then.
brace of pistols or repeater for SALTZPYRE?
repeater without question
Sure kid. Im just terrible. But at least I dont fill every person I ever meet with instinctual revulsion.
we can't have thing so nobody else can have thing either
No. Fuck off with that retarded child mentality. It's a fucking video game, it just fucking came out, people naturally fucking discuss it. I have no idea what the fuck is the deal with SCP or Kirby but you go and bring that issue up with somebody, instead of shitting on every other video game discussion on this board.
Do you want to discuss video games or not allow anyone else to discuss any video game ever?
"waystalker is a class that has nothing good going for it until you hit 25"
completely disregarding my post to call me a nigger
gg no re, elf hate is real
Brace is nowhere near what it used to be, unfortunately. Look into volley crossbow too. Not just for the exploit.
I'd say it's more like all elves are liable to kill you at any point in the dickest way possible, just for different reasons. High Elves are Lawful Dickhole, Dark Elves are Chaotic Dickhole, Wood Elves are Neutral-Alien-Morality Dickhole. If you play along with the above, you'll be fine. If not, you'll get just as fucked by one as by another.
you're making a big deal out of nothing
You only say that because you dont have to deal with that faggotry because the mods have blatant favoritism, Bet your tune would be different if you were affected by it, but since you arent youre a lazy little cunt about it
hit lvl 30
open my boxes
get crafting mats
have to play champion now
everyone is retarded as shit
this game was fun while it lasted
Oh sure, tell me how to be productive about my problems while whining about your game in an unrelated thread to an anonymous poster that is about as guilty of your game getting nuked as you are.
nah, not really
high elves wouldn't kill a human, there are tons of humans in one elf city that i can't remember the name
dark elves would on sight
wood elves wouldn't unless it's wild hunt time or you enter their forest
waiting until 30 to play champion
being buttblasted about a webm
Try again in a few weeks when the crap players filter out naturally.
What do you see in this image?
Some really good lighting.
all those people who still didn't figure out that how to kill the firearms rat giganigga
attack the little fucker on his back, goddamn
Elf player getting what they deserve
Im so good at this game, why are guns so OP?
His head is good too if you have ap.
play green circle hunter
I AM THE GREATEST
Tonight's fap materiel.
You're misdirecting your anger toward another videogame thread instead of being angry about the real problem which is faggots who cry about /vg/ when there are fotw threads. Faggots probably would've wanted an eternal poohball general too
flavor of the week
Try flavor of the past 2 months
TAGGING IS DEFAULT T YOU MONGS
but who is raping who
Autistic Dwarf Grudges Cloud
Pity the noble ratman reduced to coupling with the insidious tree nigger
Theyre both raping each other, they just dont know it yet
some shitter that died and then tries to hide his shitterness by laughing at the other shitter that died
I had tried it before but seeing how I actually wanted to get exp and items and I wasn't hitting an item cap from boxes like with recruit, I stuck with veteran.
Is there more to this picture?
Your idea of a "good parody" is 100% incompatible with skaven society. They are all traitors to everyone else, all the time. The only reason they don't backstab the horned rat is because they can't, not because they have any sort of respect for it.
Lothern, the HElf capital
It’s the containment city with the only foreigners’ quarter and the only place without magic jumbo to hide from other ships
Any reason why no one here tries to organize some fucking group to play with?
I'm tired of everyone being a retard in quickplay
Is Thanquol in this game?
Does he fuck up spectacularly?
Think it hits 3 rats at a time. The rapier is easier to control hordes with but shields are a real pain for it. The falchion you basically say fuck everyone and just hack/stagger them till they die. Very strong against everything that isn't a horde running at you.
How is a poor little elf supposed to defend from this thing coming towards me?
Nah, but another Grey Seer does fuck everything he tries up, constantly.
Okay but is it even near the level of fucking things up that Thanquol has pulled off?
Glaive that motherfucker
Or just use your ability on him as a waystalker and kill it in one shot
please bring it back
What did they change?
Does your keep improve the higher difficulties you finish? And if so how?
halescource champ quickplay
everyone collectively suicides
attack speed buff from the jump special stacked. basically the only time you could use the jump multiple times before the buff wore off though was by using concentration potions though.
His massive invasion is thwarted by 5-4 people. Pretty much collapses Clan Fester on his own. So no.
she‘s getting a rash from the bad air in the Empire
kill in one shot as a waystalker
it's not the beta anymore chum
Halescourge is such a massive faggot. His shitty fart clones are 2fast to dodge on short to medium range and his fart cyclone covers the whole arena
Still does if all 3 arrows connect
3hit kill on Champ with glaive
2hit if the top down is a head crit
Sounds to me like the issue is that you whine like an elgi!