I'm a Bloodborne lore expert. Nobody knows who I am, but I know far more about the game than anyone I've ever seen...

I'm a Bloodborne lore expert. Nobody knows who I am, but I know far more about the game than anyone I've ever seen, heard of, or known.

What lore questions do you have?

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I read on the wiki that OP is a faggot, is this true?

Since it was on the wiki, probably not.

why sometimes my pee shoot to the left and hit the wall

Hwo is solaire?

What exactly is Paleblood? How is it made? What purpose does it have?

Why are you retards so hostile to expertise and enthusiasm for videogames on a videogame board?

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What is the One Reborn and why are the bell ringing Pthumerian ladies summoning him?

Is the pizza cutter the best weapon?

When is the next Armored Core coming?

Why does time in Yharnam only advance 30 times a second, sometimes dipping even below that?

this.

What's the deal with the shadows of yharnam? Why are they there, why do they become trash mobs in the nightmare of mensis?

was the fertile pigment really manlus overdosing on darksoul humanity while pregnant with man and killing her made humans?

Firstly, Paleblood is not a type of blood. Paleblood refers to the color of the sky when the Moon Presence is beckoned. In the interview section of the guide Miyazaki says as much in plain English. Although, because the Moon Presence is "nameless" according to most people in Yharnam, it's sort of referred to as Paleblood because of its association with the ritual sky.

Paleblood is made by beckoning the moon, and its purpose is to make the Great Ones come closer so that you can commune with them.

It's just revived ritual sacrifices, and Pthumerian ladies are summoning him because that's what Pthumerian ladies like to do: summon the dead.

They're servants of Yharnam, the only reason why the ones in the boss fight are so much more powerful is because they're infested with snake parasites.

Why was Rom’s corpse on a shrine where ebrietas was?
Also why was losefka’s vial in a chest right before the wet nurse fight?

Why did you ask this retarded question? What kind of answer could I possibly give that would justify the effort?

But that's wrong faggot.

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Why does the moon presence want to stop the night if the hunt? Is it scared of socializing with humans? Is it autism?

what happened in the fishing hamlet?
did the hunters kill kos did they kill her child?
where the villagers normal people once?

Not lore but can you help a noob out? I'm scared on exploring forbidden woods all by myself :(

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Kind of of a double? In the nightmare of minces Macleish is the host the wet nurse is the caretaker and invisible crying baby is the great one, if you killed the house showing the dream/nightmare fall apart? Or is this just a part of a game mechanic l?

Where are you? Which part are you stuck on?

The answer to both of these things is, unfortunately, cut content. The biggest issue with Bloodborne regarding cut content is that the chalices are supposed to have physical entrances throughout Yharnam, and the Altar of Despair is where you'd enter the Isz chalice. I don't know more than that, but I suspect the story was going to be that Rom was the child of Ebrietas and she lost her. In the Latin lyrics for Ebrietas' song, there's a line that goes: "steal the cord, soon iris", so I suspect there was going to be more going on there. A lot of the cryptic things in the game just amount to cut content, like ashen blood.

Iosefka's Blood Vial in the chest is also likely cut content. She was going to have another ending to her quest, but it was too happy or some bullshit, so the team thought it should be cut. It might've been something to do with that.

I haven't read the comic because I'm sure it's going to be a waste of time, but the only reason why people are fascinated with white blood is because the Doll appears to bleed white, but she actually bleeds silver and it just looks white. Her blood gem is silver, and the silver shows on some pieces of clothing.

Hunters killed the villagers and then killed Kos at sea. Yes, the villagers were once normal people.

here's an easy one: what does "Make contact" express?

You are such a fucking idiot.
Paleblood is the blood of transcended humans. To seek paleblood is to see a higher existence and "transcend" the hunt. You become a Great One, thus transcending humanity and the hunt.

It's that fucking simple. Why do so many people hold such retarded fan theories about these games? They're not that hard to understand.

Second part of my question? Who is the host, caretaker and great one? in the Old hunters nightmare?

>because the Doll appears to bleed white
Or perhaps because there is a whole enemy type called "Kin" who bleed white, and the hunter ends up becoming one at the end of the game.

Not him but I think paleblood has kind of a double meaning like insight or mensis.
Paleblood can mean both the sky with a bloodmoon or the actual blood of kin of the cosmos

Dreams / nightmares don't have hosts. It's not like a dream someone is having that ends when they wake up. It's like another dimension that's shaped by what's in people's minds.

Knowledge of mathematics, probably.

No it isn't, the creator of the game says it isn't, and it's a proper noun. If your goal was to seek the blood of transcended humans the game would've ended almost immediately.

They don't bleed white.

The Orphan of Kos created the nightmare, ripping the fishing hamlet out of the world and creating a safe space for the villagers. Maria safeguards the nightmare, but she isn't a servant of Orphan like Gehrman is to MP.
And there is no "host" of Nightmares. Micolash's name is confusing. He's the host for Mensis, he is the main mind that was used to pass into the nightmare, and thus hosts his companions within the nightmare.
There is no "host" in a parasitic sense. Once a dream is created it is presumably permanent, or at least self sustaining. It doesn't need the creator to remain alive as a "host".

>they don't bleed white
It's OK, guys, he hasn't actually played the game. You can all go home now.

What exactly IS the moon presence?
What's the purpose of crushing the umbilical cords and why does it turn you into a Great One?

OK but who is the great one in the DLC if Cozm is dead is the great one The orphan? or the ghost of cozm?

Why was Garamen left in the hunters dream?

>The Orphan of Kos created the nightmare, ripping the fishing hamlet out of the world and creating a safe space for the villagers. Maria safeguards the nightmare, but she isn't a servant of Orphan like Gehrman is to MP.

No, that's not correct. The villagers called upon Kos to create the nightmare. It says so in the guide, wherein only official information was published. That's what the baneful chants are.

>It's OK, guys, he hasn't actually played the game. You can all go home now.
They bleed murky blues and greens, sometimes they have two types of blood at once, like in the Fishing Hamlet. It's not white.

It's a goddess of the hunt, and also rotten. It seems to be very important to the theology of the Healing Church, and you ascend by killing the Moon Presence as well as taking three cords, and it behaves and sounds like a beast, so I suspect it's something like you have to kill the Moon Presence to rid mankind of their beastliness, or something.

Gehrman was originally going to be a lot more ghostly, but that was cut and now there's no answer.

MP is a very powerful Great One with power over nightmares. It's presence has a detrimental effect on humanity, accelerating the beast plague.
Laurence called it with an umbilical cord, persumably hoping to convene with it, perhaps learn, but as soon as it appeared in Yharnam it's presence triggered the Old Yharnam disaster, making the hunt all the worse in just one night.
Gehrman made a deal, or pact, or something with the MP. The MP acts as a benevolent force for the Hunters, through its own power allowing them to resurrect, and even communicate and travel between worlds. Every mechanic in the game, such as leveling, respawning, messengers and summoning is derived from the Moon Presence's benevolent power.
Ludwig was somehow able to see this power within the air itself, appearing to him as a kind of thread of light in the air. This is his "Moonlight".

Fast forward to game time, and the MP is using Hunters as pawns to try and kill Mergo. Either out of selfishness, or out of pity for humans it wants to kill Mergo, and so it takes you into its service and guides you through Yharnam.
Eventually, though, you become a Great One also, through the consumption Great One umbilical cords. The MP doesn't like this and throws a hissy fit, finally being killed by you.

Almost everything you just said is incorrect.

And this is why BB is a shit game

It doesn't want you to kill Mergo, you're silencing Mergo's cry, just like you silence the Orphan's cry. You free Mergo and return him back to the nightmare / cosmos / ocean. You can hear his cry settle into a calm snoozing.

The idea that the Moon Presence has some kind of sinister plot to kill other Great Ones is fabricated by a community that would prefer a less threadbare plot.

Okay, give me a specific example that isn't obvious speculation and I'll provide evidence.

>It doesn't want you to kill Mergo
It literally tells you that this is what you have to do.
>find the nightmare newborn and silence its harrowing cry
Mergo would have doomed humanity had it been allowed to be born/mature/however the fuck Mergo works. Moon Presence wanted to prevent this either out of love for humans, or some other mystery motive.

What does Maria's butthole look like?

>It literally tells you that this is what you have to do.

No, it tells you to silence Mergo's cry. In other translations it tells you to stop it from crying, or even soothe Mergo's cry.

>Mergo would have doomed humanity had it been allowed to be born/mature/however the fuck Mergo works. Moon Presence wanted to prevent this either out of love for humans, or some other mystery motive.

There's no reason to think this is the case.

Smooth with zero wrinkles

Watch out near the end, you have to fight the Shadows of Yharnam.
I got caught and had to use a Bold Hunter's Mark to escape first time to prepare.
It's obviously a large area with a small opening, but I was retarded not to notice it.

Margo was stillborn, it made the mensis school's minds stillborn. I don't think it's going to mature

What was the main the goal of The healing church?

When are we getting a PC port?

You there, OP?

I think Maria is the only one that has transcended the hunt, do you think I'm right?
I don't have time to explain here because my theory is fucking giant, but I think you know what I'm talking about, being immortalized as the doll, the paleblood, yadda yadda yadda.

>I'm a Bloodborne lore expert.

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Nice. Thank you.

>infested with snake parasites
MALE TO FEMALE

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Does this apply to the Doll too? Is Gehrman that obsessive with the details of Maria's body?

The entire Bloodborne plot is based around the song The Blood Is Love by Queens of the Stone Age off their 2005 album, Lullabies to Paralyze.

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>There's no reason to think this is the case.
There's actual notes in the game stating this. I can't recall exactly, I believe they're in Yahar'Gul.
Mergo would have the same effect as MP did when it appeared and caused Old Yharnam. Rom was also helping by trying to hide Mergo and the Mensis Ritual from Yharnam.

>stillbirth of their minds
God doesn't even know what that's supposed to mean.
But Mergo's mortality is confusing at best. It was presumably born first in Pthumeru, hundreds or thousands of years ago, was stillborn or died soon after birth like many Great Ones, despite being born to a human, and then was perhaps revived later on by the Mensis ritual.
There's not really enough lore in-game telling us exactly what Mergo is, we only know what the danger is and that we must go kill it.

Communion for the purpose of cleansing themselves of beasthood and being able to evolve to something high enough so that it can know truth.

I don't think you're right. The Doll is there to be a servant to humans in the same way that Pthumerians were servants for the Great Ones. Her ascension at the end of the game is that she develops her own will which is signified by her wanting a child.

Cut content

Perhaps not all questions should be answered, good hunter

did the Hunter have a terminal illness?

Thanks redgrave

To experiment with blood and transcend humanity.
Basically, Ebrietas was their goal, though Ebrietas was more likely a transcended human from old Pthumeru. They all wanted to be Great Ones.
Byrgenworth, on the other hand, wanted simply to study the Great Ones, and perhaps reach their level through safer means, but not necessarily become them. Though Rom would up transcending after eating too many eyes, whether on purpose or not who knows.

How long was Garamen stuck in the hunters dream?

>There's actual notes in the game stating this. I can't recall exactly, I believe they're in Yahar'Gul.

No there isn't, there isn't anything in the game or the files of the game or the guides or interviews that even vaguely implies such a thing.

>Mergo would have the same effect as MP did when it appeared and caused Old Yharnam. Rom was also helping by trying to hide Mergo and the Mensis Ritual from Yharnam.

That's already happening because the red moon was beckoned. The moon is what spreads the scourge, it isn't some baby.

What is the red moon though?

where is cum stored?

"Nightmarish rituals crave a newborn. Find one, and silence its harrowing cry."
"The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts."
Oops, guess you're wrong there, expert.
Mensis sought to commune with Mergo, but Mergo's presence would accelerate the beast plague and destroy humanity. The ritual brought Yharnam too close to the Nightmare, hence the blood moon, which is much the same as the blood moon we see when the Moon Presence descends. Mergo's cry can even be heard in Yharnam.
If Mergo weren't killed it would have turned every human into a beast.

What exactly caused the scourge of the beast? Was everyone infected?

Probably, the cut dialogue seems to imply that.

Redgrave thinks the Doll is a Great One, but unless Pthumerians all became Great Ones too, the Doll is not a Great One.

Their goal isn't to be Great Ones, their goal is to know truth. Look at the aim of Willem's research: "Eyes symbolize the truth Master Willem sought in his research. Disillusioned by the limits of human intellect, Master Willem looked to beings from higher planes for guidance, and sought to line his brain with eyes in order to elevate his thoughts."

It's not about greedily lusting for Great One magic or some bullshit, it's about making mankind less limited. If you take the dialogue seriously, it all says as much. It's the eldritch TRUTH people are going after. TRUTH.

The doll

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Never made exactly clear how the Moon Presence and the Moon itself interact, but symbolically, it shows that the veil between the various realities or "dreams" has been torn away. In other words, the Moon Presence and other great ones are literally closer to the waking world, and that's why everything goes nuts.

The red moon is just an omen, it appears when a very powerful great one appears. Presumably only Moon Presence and Mergo, since they have the effect of accelerating the beast scourge.
It's like a full moon for werewolves.

When the red moon looms low the line between man and beast is blurred.

It's a vessel for the gods / the Moon Presence. It's ripped out of Sumerian mythology. There isn't a more complicated answer than this.

The Mensis ritual is to beckon the moon by using Mergo as bait. The moon is what spreads the scourge, which is why everything becomes so fucked up when the red moon descends, and why old Yharnam had to be burned when the red moon descended. It has nothing to do with Mergo. Mergo is just bait, which is why soothing his cry ends the hunt, because Great Ones want surrogate children so they're interested in crying infants.

First and foremost, the scourge is caused by stagnation in the blood. Basically the gist is that filth builds up and begins to rot, Vermin writhe in the filth and rot, and then your brain and eyes rot or are eaten, and you become blood-drunk. Once you're blood-drunk and your reason has been eroded (symbolized by eyes) the blood can only tease out what remains, which is beasthood. On top of that, the phase / closeness of the moon spreads the scourge.

Not entirely.
The beast scourge was not CREATED by Moon Presence, only accelerated. The scourge began in Pthumeru, either as an unfortunate product of blood research or as a curse by the great ones for breaking the sacred rules of marriage.
In modern day a similar (or maybe even the same) scourge was accidentally made by the healing church through their experiments.
The antidote items found in game are to treat a disease known as "Ashen Blood". This disease is what mutated into the Beast Scourge.
It's unclear, however, if the scourge existed before Old Yharnam's episode, or if the MP's appearance is what started it. The timeline in BB is kind of vague and hard to pin down. Gehrman was the first hunter and hunted beasts, but if he made a pact with the Moon Presence on the night of its appearance then he'd presumably have been trapped then and there within the Dream.
So maybe beasts existed before Old Yharnam, but the MP's appearance just made the problem a lot worse.

Did Mergo create the nightmare realm and the creatures like Rom?

How much of an impact did Mergo have?

What was the deal with the one boss that was similar to the tower knight?

Why did the healing church fuck everything up?

Is there any truth to the theory that the townspeople see you as a monster the same way you see them?

So was Lady Maria the one behind the abominations found in the Astral Clocktower? They all spoke of her savior and the one outside of the Living Failures arena said she disappointed her. What was that about?

Also does Lady Maria consume her own period blood?

>The antidote items found in game are to treat a disease known as "Ashen Blood". This disease is what mutated into the Beast Scourge.

No, ashen blood led to the spread of the scourge, it didn't mutate into the scourge. It's a different thing. The beasts of Old Yharnam poison you when they hit you. That's what ashen blood is.

>it’s another autists headcanon goes berserk episode
you kids are retarts with this i sware

>Moon Presence wants to adopt Mergo
>but it tells you to kill it
This makes no sense. The idea of MP wanting to take Mergo as a child is a cool idea and might actually fit with and inform other parts of lore, but doesn't really work because the goal of MP to silence Mergo.

How much of it can be stored inside of her?

"The ashen blood ailment eventually triggered the spread of the beastly scourge."
The "Beast Patients" were sufferers of ashen blood, who became beasts when the MP descended.

What is the winter lantern?

COPULATE

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All of it. She has a pocket dimension

Not the guy, but as a matter of fact, killing the baby is your mission.

It seems like you've bought into the idea that you're trying to fulfil some kind of contract for the Moon Presence, and when your contract is fulfilled the hunt is over. That's not how it works. This is how it works:

"To escape this dreadful Hunter's Dream, halt the source of the spreading scourge of beasts, lest the night carry on forever."

You make the moon fuck off by making Mergo stop crying, and when the moon fucks off the night ends and the hunt is over.

Stop lying, Miazaki said that what you said pale blood is was "one interpretation, yes". There is no definitive answer to what paleblood is. It up to the player to decide what they believe pale blood is or isn't.

No it isn't. "Silence Mergo" just sounds harsh in the English translation. You can hear it snooze after it stops crying for fuck sake. LISTEN: youtu.be/JG9inYuk-gs?t=272

No, he said exactly what he was going for, which is what went into the game. You can choose to make up your own answer if you want, but what was intended has been made clear.

>dude, I literally cannot control myself when I smell that baby
>I'm loomin' low, fucking everything up down there in Yharnam
>you gotta kill that baby so I can leave, bro
So the MP is retarded?

I love that the BB lore is so vague that people are still talking about it four years later

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>Did Mergo create the nightmare realm and the creatures like Rom?
Presumably, the Mensis ritual created the Nightmare of Mensis. Don't know why you think Mergo created Rom. Presumably, Rom is an infant form of Ebrietas, who is highly advanced Kin.

>How much of an impact did Mergo have?
Sure as hell got Flora interested.

>What was the deal with the one boss that was similar to the tower knight?
The One Reborn. That was just weird shit that the Pthumerians were messing with. Pthumerians love weird shit.

>Why did the healing church fuck everything up?
They underestimated the forces they were dealing with. Pretty straight-forward.

>Is there any truth to the theory that the townspeople see you as a monster the same way you see them?
No. The Yharnamites on the hunt are all blood-drunk.

Well Mergo has died once already and been brought back. Maybe killing it just puts it back into slumber.
There's a few Lovecraft gods that work like that, so maybe that's the basis for Mergo.

>Rom is an infant form of Ebrietas
This thread needs to stop.

You don't kill the baby, and your goal isn't given to you by the Moon Presence. This is retarded community fanfiction.

That is how it works, death is the same thing as sleep, sort of. Though when people say "you kill Mergo" they get the wrong idea. You free Mergo, like the free the child of Kos. It's in a sort of limbo and you're helping it. That's why Yharnam bows to you.

I wonder if there are great ones greater than the great ones we know about, even greater than oedon

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>MP literally leaves you messages throughout the game telling you to kill Mergo
MP obviously has some stake in the game. We know that it's benevolent, so it's no leap to assume that Mergo's negative effect on humanity (beckoning a blood moon) is not something Moon Presence wants around.
Perhaps Moon Presence takes all of humanity as a surrogate child. Or maybe it's just friendly like Ebrietas, who knows.

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The greatest one is from soft them self

Great Ones are aliums, so there are probably other aliens who are stronger. We already see a kind of heirarchy of power, with figures like Mergo, MP and Orphan at the top and shitters like Rom, The Brain of Mensis and Mergo's Wet Nurse at the bottom.

>MP literally leaves you messages throughout the game telling you to kill Mergo
What gives you this idea?

>MP literally leaves you messages throughout the game telling you to kill Mergo
Firstly, it doesn't. Silence Mergo doesn't mean "kill Mergo", it means "make Mergo be quiet" which is what you do after you kill Mergo's Wet Nurse and send Mergo to sleep. In other translations, including Japanese, you're just told to stop it from crying and soothe Mergo. It doesn't come off as harsh like it does in the English.

Secondly, there's no reason to think the Moon Presence is leaving you notes.