I'm thinking about dropping out of uni and attending a programming bootcamp...

I'm thinking about dropping out of uni and attending a programming bootcamp. Is this a good step if I want to be a software engineer, and if it's good, what should I look for in a programming bootcamp to make sure it's not cheating me off?

If you're attending a java mill, you're already at a CODING XD BOOTCAMP

No but actually, are they worth it? I won't to avoid going through all this bullshit credits and just get a job coding

>software engineer
>drop out of uni
>to become a software engineer

just get a fucking computer science degree or most companies won't look at you. You'll get the same skill set but have more options in terms of internships and jobs at a uni than a programming bootcamp.

This thread belongs in That idea is fucking awful.
If you insist on rushing things just learn independently.
Actually, do that even if you don't quit.

You seem to be missing the point of college, to be honest.
"Learning" is a pretty common answer, but you've picked one of the easiest fields to self teach.
The only reason you should be going to college for CS is to build your resume with internships.

Are you from Europe? I guess not since you are talking baout bootcamps.
I am currently a senior backend developer. I made myself from junior/intern to senior in 4 years. If by any chance you are in europe, here's the biggest protip I can give you
> be in europe
> pick public uni in the biggest city of your country
> public unis are free, it doesn't matter which one it is
> go live to the dorms as they are 30% of market place of renting a room
> IT education in europe is way worse than in the US, this means the employment level is much lower
> try looking at the job market, ignore ALL intern positions
> apply to small companies preferably, junior positions at such usually mean they are aiming to train and employ the junior afterwards
> don't ever apply without a project made by yourself, it can be anything, even a simple url shortener hosted on free hosting, just add this to "projects" in the cv
> get employed, don't drop out of uni
> still live in the dorms for 1/3 of the market price
This gives you a lot of advantages. You are starting a university degree which may be continued to your preference in the future. You have a high chance of receiving educational scholarship (public unis fuck yeah) which will help you hold yourself in the first year or so of your work. Applying directly to jobs instead of internships, although lowers your chance of emplyment, takes the chance of stable AND paid employment in the long run. Moreover while getting a junior position job you are guaranteed to be paid for learning how to code. For the future reference internships are nearly worthless, moreover they are worthless in terms of your skill advancement. Interns are a burden to the team they are joining to. Junior developers are a hope of dividing the work in a team so naturally your teammembers will be more than glad to take care of you.

If you want protips to CV/job search let me know.

No, stay at university

Or if you can't take it and you have to dropout enlist in the army or become a mechanic, farmer or something where you use your hands

Programming bootcamp sounds like a terrible idea

But what do I know, I'm a university dropout IT monkey

>java mill
Is this just a meme or is the US actually brimming with CS programs that just teach kids Java?

aaaand another shit developer enters the field. goddamn

do it
I'm freelance and have an infinite amount of work ONLY fixing what other people do really shitty / fuck up

without garbage people like you, I wouldn't have a job. Just my luck that nearly everyone is female or a shit faglord coder.

>CS programs that just teach kids Java?

My uni teaches Java in the first two intro classes, and now you can see me in the daily programming thread asking stupid questions about C++.

>belongs in adv

No it doesn't, how many people on that board know anything about the tech field

>implying a bunch of basement dwelling hackers who watch anime and configure their video player actually have had jobs

My friend's husband got a degree in geology then got certs in computer/programming shit, then he worked through an employment agency and works full time for pokemon usa now. He bought a house in the shitty boonies.

Measure that success however you want.

Is taking a CS degree without prior knowledge whatsoever, worth it?

How to into freelance?

yes. a lot of great developers went into university with no prior knowledge

hi, interesting post. What's wrong with internships?

>software engineer
programmer

OP of here. Internships are absolutely fine if the following has place:
- too much graduate level developers are on the market
- market have more than enough workforce and does not need to train new one
- you have slacked off during uni and got close to no business experience or none at all
- your skills are below expected junior level skills (those depend on area, salary, specialisation)
However we currently have the opposite. Market has huge deficit of developers of any level. There are indeed a lot of graduate developers, however their skill and mentality makes them worthless to employ (eg. you need to teach me, you need to google for me, you need to tell me exactly how, you need to explain everything step by step to me). In order for you to win with those graduates all you have to do is to have bottom-line of self-engagement. Just be curious and you are better than 80% of them.
In short: junior position speaks for both your mindset, skillset and engagement. Anyone can be an intern, not anyone can land a junior position (albeit it is very easy).

If you disagree with the arguments I have listed - check out salary change during last 10 years in the IT, or even 13 when there was the crash. We are approaching the point of not being able to satisfy the market and by such slowing it's growth.

OP here. Not from Europe, but I appreciate the advice. I guess the general sentiment is to stay in university and self-teach on the side

Saved me a dropout and 10,000 bucks, right?

Have fun sitting beside pajeets and stronk independent womyn

>I dropped out of college because it was too boring
>I'm really smart, I'm just not motivated
>150 IQ coming through
>if I wasn't so lazy I'd be the next fuckerberg
>I attended a coding bootcamp, can I have a job now?
That only works for wymyn. I hope you like drag, because you're not going to get shit if you try that as a FUCKING WHITE MALE.

Good luck.

If you already owe the money, then don't dropout. It's not like university stops you from teaching yourself anything you want.

This was a pointless thread. Fuck off and be productive.

I'm completely debt free

yea unis should focus more on preparing their student to be professional Sup Forums poster the most important thing in life

lie about your experience at first
just say yea I can figure that out
do it, figure it out
you'll start getting more & more people who re-hire you
keep doing it, soon you'll have 16 years experience in hands on.. everything

that's how I did it. I now get flown to other states to do work.

oh yea also be good at what you do.

But you've already paid for the degree?

Refer to my post excluding the first sentence. Pay close attention to the last sentence.

how do you find your first jobs though, some specific website you like? local freelancing? if local, how do you especifically find them?

walk into offices and talk to front desk ask if they need anything done. even offering services as free and if they like work I can continue to do more.

family companies, if a family member works somewhere they can recommend you

these days watching craigslist as well