VR Discussion

Do you guys think virtual reality will be the future of technology? How long will it take to be integrated into society like smartphones were?

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>How long will it take to be integrated into society like smartphones were?

consider how long smartphones took

I'm not sure where to draw the starting line (original blackberry? newton?) but it was a long wait between that and iPhone/Android-level market penetration

I remember the Blackberry kind of started it a bit, and then when the iPhone came out everybody had one within a year

At least that was how it was where Iive

>integrated into society
maybe never. I mean, why generic normie should spend $600 on a toy and then even more on proper PC? Wii Sports is cool even in 2d, and you can't even play party games in VR. For generic users, it's nothing more than a great, great arcade gimmick. Simulator players will probably love it though.

I'd love to see VR arcade machines and VR arcade places/clubs. I mean, this is how it worked when most people wasn't wealthy enough to buy a device for themselves.

Still, VR is fucking awesome. I rented DK2 and i still can't get over level of awesomeness, and recently i combined nvidia gamestream with tridef3d and opentrack and even if it's not even nearly as good as Rift, it's perfectly usable tool for racing games (and it's still impressive as fuck).

VR is a meme.

unlike smartphones "virtual reality" (which isn't even virtual reality, its a motion-tracking screen) has little practical use

Comparing smartphones with similar Technological (revolutions?), they came in pretty relatively in my opinion.
I don't think VR will ever do the same. I think some business will (and probably already do) use them for hands on training and a small percentage of people will use them for gaming (I might be one of them soon) but they'll never be common.
The tech is awesome and far less glitchy than I expected but it's just not something I see people taking to.

The Wii was cool for a few weeks and then it just died in the ass. (In Australia at least) I think this'll be the same.

So we have to wait until Apple makes VR goggles? Seems that way with smart watches as well

relatively quickly*

Oh, god. I think this is probably terrifyingly accurate

Given that alot of people have already shelved their headsets a few days after getting them...I'd say that it probably will never be the future of technology.

>apple VR
>experience glorious 800x480 stretched on your entire field of view because 90% of computers we sold can't handle anything more with their intels hd4000

nah. I mean, of course apple would "revolutionize it", everything they touch turns to gold, but i don't think they have means to do it properly, at least other than ridiculously expensive bundles with some kind of processing machine.

who #FellForThisMeme here

I'd gladly fall for this meme, only retarded price + taxing and shipping to my third world country keeps me from buying it.
I'd buy OSVR kit and try combining it with other software to make it work with trackIR-capable games, but it's so unpopular i wonder if i'd be their only customer.

The Apple phenomenon

VR is for weirdos.

AR actually is the future.

Nothing suprising about that, their PR/advertising is flawless. They even have their own jesus, i can't think of any other company with their personal legendary world saviors.

Who said that the processor has to be on the thing you attach the goggles to?

They could put it on its cable or some shit and just use the iShit it's connected to as DRM.

It doesn't. Thing is, apple computers/laptops are ridiculously weak. There is nothing exciting about having something that performs just as well as google cardboards.

Literally an insult to technology.
It's 3d glasses 2.0 like I've been saying for years, and everyone fell for it like retards, the only use it has is for kids with raging hormones only interested in pornography.

>i can't think of any other company with their personal legendary world saviors.

Don't you ever talk like that to me or my wife's son ever again!

Topkek

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>all of those retards who never had it on their heads and thinks it's a rectangular screen that's always in direction you're looking at

only big differences between looking at real world and looking at 2d screen are
>missing one dimension
>display is not moving with your head
>display is not adjusting camera position relatively to your head
>there is no blur from your eye lens when looking at two things in contrasting distances

VR fixes three of four problems, and lens blur is not that important for first generations anyway.

ITT: salty poorfags

You're also forgetting that having a screen constantly strapped to your face is literally killing your eyesight, might as well be blind.

You're really underestimating the mainstream appeal of porn and the size of that industry.

I don't think you understand how the lenses change how your eyes focus

Where you got this information? Out of your ass?

How so? What, you think it's exactly like watching anything from five centimeters? No, it's not. Lens changes focal.

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting, hopefully when Trump is elected he castrates all the degenerates.

If Trump ever gets elected he'd be impeached if he tries anything outlandish that he claims

I'm seeing so many reports of people having trouble focusing after using VR, and Sony is asking their consumers to not allow kids under the age of 12 to use it since kids with underdeveloped eyes will definitely be affected.

Stop trying to act like facts are not facts. VR is going to hurt your eyes and apparently your brain since you're viewing things from a completely different perspective than in real life.

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I've heard people bitch about shit like the 3DS a Toyota's accelerator pedals

Point is these people are fucking idiots

>he fell for it
here, your options for content are literally (no hyperbole here)

1) oculus home/ steamvr games (walking simulators)
2) wii/psp emulation (~30 obscure titles each)
3) virtual google-maps like videos
4) indie homebrew unity projects, which are all strangely as well-optimized and graphically demanding as the "real" VR games (which is to say they look like a load of me old dog's dinner)


I'll answer any questions you have about owning one of these things though

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And you're mr. perfect right? I'm sure you'll still be defending this trash console wars style even after your next eye doctor appointment goes wrong.

No but I am a medfag and there is no solid evidence suggesting that VR permanently damages eyesight, it's all just "b-b-but muh childred!"

Trips checked

I have so oculus on preorder. I run a surprisingly successful podcast, and we've been doing quite a bit of VR talk lately. Did I goofed with oculus, or did I do good, considering the oculus touch will be here soon?

Also, I hear SteamVR is compatible and even prompting Oculus users to install SVR, thank God.

sweet jesus

it's exactly same shit with classic display 3d glasses, it's not eye problem, it's brain problem. you can also get your head fucked up by watching stereograms as a child, but it doesn't mean stereograms are harmful for your eyeballs or for your adult, developed brain.

you have completely no idea about basic concept of vision and yet you're spouting your bullshit baseless accusations like it's universal truth. Go and educate or something.

Wow you have an incredibly narrow imagination

>racing games
>flying games
>first person shooters
>space exploration
That alone covers hundreds of titles, and even more will be made in the future

oh hey I almost forgot

>VR porn

empornium user here, whatever insane fetish you may have, I can guarantee it's less well-served than even the most bland VR content. Only the two most well-heeled producers have bothered to get in the game, so no "japanese girl in one-piece swimsuit gets fucked bareback in outer space," enjoy the same tattooed forty-somethings slam into each other for half an hour in unconvincing 3d

Ah, a medschool practicioner, I'm sure being around all the egotism and selfishness in that field has served you well.

Anyway, the only evidence you need is LED screen + plus face doesn't equal 20/20 vision, I'm sure even a medfag like you can understand that.

y-yeah

except every anyhow important simulator, i guess it's all about walking sims

oh, and except hentai games where you can comfortably place your head below animu girl feet in full-blown 1:1 3d, but hey, who cares

There isn't any VR content available for the base model setup, I'd be a hopeless optimist to assume that adding a peripheral to the mix and splitting the userbase will attract more (or any) developers.

Sorry user, your $600 princess may be in another castle.

You dumb motherfucker, you're not understanding how the eye is focusing

Your eyes aren't focusing on the screen 5 centimeters away, that's physically impossible, they're focusing on the virtual objects in the game like would with real life objects the same distance away

Why is this concept so hard to understand? Has the average Sup Forums poster really gotten this damn stupid in the past 6 years?

Rip hopes and dreams

How's the porn?

Ah, how I wish this were true

There's one VR hentai game out right now that runs on runtime 1.3, it's barebones to the extreme but run by a dedicated user.

Unfortunately, that's the best that we've had to look forward to for the last three years, so I hope you like three minutes of hatsune miku shaking on the floor in a bikini.

sssshhh
calm down user
it's just a bait

>runtime 1.3
oh, right, i forgot, last time i tried Rift it was DK2 and sdk somewhere around 0.4.4. But isn't there some kind of fanmade converter/wrapper for older runtimes?

LED SCREEN + FACE

Even with your eyes closed if put your face against your computer screen, it's still gonna be bad, it doesn't matter what you're "focusing" on, YOUR FACE IS TWO INCHES AWAY FROM A SCREEN!.

Is it really user? The scary thing is that there are people who legitimately believe that

Did you time travel here from the 90s?

I won't lie to you and say that euro truck simulator isn't great.

>spent weekend driving around french countryside once as a kid
>try ETS2, delivering packages in my megavan, in full 3d, is pretty comfy so far
>look out leftmost window into open field as I hit the highway
>shit bricks

I literally felt like I was there. If you wish to be a professional truck driver, maybe the cost of entry makes that feeling worth it for you?

If all games were held to that standard, or if more of them existed, then more people would hopefully be thrilled with the tech.

You're hopelessly retarded. Vaccines causes autism-tier retarded, or even flat earth-tier retarded. But keep it up user, I'm sure one day you'll start some kind of powerful social movement that bases entirely on lack of information.

Bright future ahead.

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Okay, I'm not the one with poor purchase regret defending a over-glorified sex toy, but okay, enjoy the bad eyes, not that it matters because you'll probably never even need them.

it's couple of luxes stretched by lens on your entire field of view

I've spent the majority of my life with a screen a few inches from my face and I still have 20/15 vision, that's not how eyes work.

I too have fallen for the meme supreme

>4mb limit

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Oh also i've been spending my whole life in a pool of diarrhea and I've never had a problem.

Is that where your butthurt originates from user?

I dunno, I have 20/15 vision why should I care?

wait, he's actually mad
maybe it wasn't a bait after all

Why didn't you just make a webm?

Uh, this is confusing, I was arguing for VR...

What happened to the dream?

Nobody is retarded enough to fall for your shitty reverse trolling except for you

Kill yourself, you pathetic virgin.

Whatever, VR is awesome, fucking hater... You've obviously never even used one...

still there, i guess

this still exists, but your gif shows mostly the extent of it

considering the amount of well-heeled PCfag redditors, you think a patreon for one of these would be a huge hit

it's a gimmick like 3dtv.
which is ded.

Honestly whoever buys this is a creep, we all know they're using it because they can't get laid. lmfao

So wouldn't it be cheaper to hire a hooker? You your brain

why does every thread about VR ends up with hate and trolling?


you guys can have a cardboard if you're poor, it's fun as well

Hookers are nothing like your "anime pure virgin girls" apparently.

Also you kids are probably too scared for real sex, but at least you have expensive ways to make up for it, freak.

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I'll tell you what you can't fish for.
Friends.

Says the guy shitposting on Sup Forums

I think this may be because tech sites hyped this up as a complete revolution, which isn't anywhere near accurate.

The majority of Sup Forums has the means or at least the autism to be able to try these headsets out once, and the hype-crash cycle isn't kind.

Okay, loser, lmao.

>implying anyone who ever had a rift on their head would lose the hype

it's quite the opposite

okay kid, no one asked you.

>future of technology
top kek m8

I bought the HTC Vive, it's cool but not as mindblowing as sites have made it out to be. If they continue to improve on it, it'll get really great. Right now the biggest problem is that lack of content with substance, that'll hopefully change down the road too. I'll answer any questions.

How ugly are you?

asl?

Does vive works purely as a steamvr api device, or can you just throw standard display image (tridef/iz3d) on it? I mean, what can you do when you want to play unsupported game, even with worse/misconfigured tracking?

between a 6 and 7
25/male/cali

Since you're probably biased you added a few points to that score, so you're probably a 3.
Eww..

I'm not sure what tridef/iz3d is but you can do a lot of things with virtual desktop (which is on steam) I'm pretty sure you can use that to pull up nearly anything that's on your computer. It also allows you to wrap the screen so it surrounds you.

You need to be running steamvr to use it, but for outside sources they just come as a .exe and you run it like a program.
Nah, not that low 6 I would say is fair.

seriously? you that stupid that u think people who smart enough not to fell for this shit don't know that it tracks your head movement? It has been clear to have such "innovation" since the day your phone started to change its screen when you turn it clockwise, nothing unexpected in your shitty VR glasses: you get two monitors in front of your eyes and yes this shit tracks your head movements that's it. With it you get even worse eye damage than staring at your PC screen because at least you can change focus to distant thing when u look at 2d screen and you cant do this with so called VR. The true VR will be when we be able to send visual signals to brain avoiding eyes. And what you are buying now is a scam so go for it. Dumb people make smart people rich, nothing new.

What are you talking about? VR has fleshlights dude, why are you hating?

Okay, let me rephrase: can you use this Vive as a "display" directly? No virtual desktops, no 3d rooms, no cinemas, just raw hdmi image sent straight to device?

vive or oculus?

You need to look harder. Both PlayClub and Custom Maid 3D2 are working with the Vive. There's also a model viewer for SFM models that will have more modes soon.