>A lawyer representing a child pornography suspect in Washington state has told the federal judge overseeing the case that government prosecutors should essentially put up or shut up. >Colin Fieman forcefully argued that the government must provide him and his client, Jay Michaud, access to the source code of the FBI’s "network investigative technique" (NIT). In this case, United States v. Michaud, the government has refused to do so, despite the fact that it did so in a related case in Nebraska, United States v. Cottom.
What do you think? Should the government give the source code for all charges that uses them.
Camden Hughes
That sick fuck should just get the automatic death penalty, we don't need those monsters in our society. The fuck does source code have to do with anything.
Wyatt Sullivan
>death penalty
Bentley Campbell
Do you think he's kidding?
Easton Stewart
the source code can contain nonfree propriatary meme code that would allow the FBI to copy that stuff onto his drive to get him to be convicted
Blake Gomez
>certain combinations of 0s and 1s are illegal
Brandon Garcia
>accidentally putting penis in kid is illegal
Ayden Stewart
good
Josiah Wright
>certain combinations of atoms are illegal >certain combinations of muscular contractions are illegal
Dominic Morris
>certain arrangements of atoms are illegal
Charles Gonzalez
omg this so much, sotp pedos :)))
Juan Smith
Those "certain combinations" of 0s and 1s could have only realistically been generated by photographing the molestation of a child. You would win the lottery trillions of times over before you ever randomly generated CP.
Brody Williams
>downloading image of cartoon girl that is naked is equivalent with putting penis inside ugly 3DPD
Anthony Rodriguez
But we should define what is cp first. One could see a naked child getting raped in the ass in a white noise picture
Zachary Torres
>cp case didn't go right into plea deal in 2016 america amazing
James Davis
I know the first part is troll, but for the latter:
It's part of the evidence. You can't just state someone is guilty and imprison them. You must explain why they guilty and how you acquired the knowledge and/or evidence of their guilt. For all you know this man could be charged just because his browsing history has a cache of a social media site that has a mother bathing their child or something.
Jayden Adams
pretty sure the FBI doesn't give a fuck about your dumb cartoon hobby
Chase Ramirez
>What do you think? Should the government give the source code for all charges that uses them. Uhh yes, it kinda helps verify that the evidence is correct.
Lets imagine this without a computer for a second.
>FBI arresting criminals based on a psychic's recommendations alone
Isaac Watson
>TheCourgeToShowMeYourPanties wew lad, you lurk /f/ m8?
Joseph Collins
I don't think you understand how incredibly unlikely it is to generate ANY kind of photo randomly. CP, landscape photography, or even an anime image. You'd need thousands of 0s to show how unlikely it is.
James Ward
Yet.
Julian Fisher
No, I don't have flash.
Cameron Howard
pretty sure they will never even bother with it unless your an actual pedophile
Lincoln Anderson
Yes I know that, what I'm saying is that I can consider a noisy image cp because I recognise a naked child in it
Nicholas Wood
It seems like a legal gray area that could swing either way in the future. Sure, it isn't real, but one should be careful anyway.
David Kelly
It's not a gray area, it's a bullshit area based on "muh feelings", slippery slope, and it's basically thought crime.
Lincoln Campbell
It's extremely difficult to enforce such laws because they basically run right up against the first amendment. If someone bothered to challenge these laws all the way up to the SCOTUS they would probably get thrown out based on the first amendment.
The thing is no one is ever charged with it so there's no precedent.
Ayden Morgan
If the sick fuck was actually looking at little children naked, then throw the book at him. If it was Loli shit then that whole trial is a joke. Who cares. Theres no harmful industry behind Loli. Child Pornography on the other hand is a disgusting and cancerous form of evil that ruins people's lives.
On to the actual argument here though. That's a double edged sword. Releasing the source code for their investigative tools is just asking for it to be essentially worthless. On the other hand, how are we to know their investigative techniques are just?
My answer to the problem is to have data evidence of the crime. The NIT will get enough dirt to get a warrant for the guy, and then from there they can storm his house before he wipes his shit and destroy evidence.
Worst case scenario is the guy was innocent and the government pays for a new lock on his door.
Nathaniel Perez
>Child Pornography on the other hand is a disgusting and cancerous form of evil that ruins people's lives. So is the internet.
Michael Parker
Loli itself is harmless but the degenerates that view it are not. Sure it might only be 1 in 1000 that will act on their lust but that is still damage.
Logan Stewart
Craig?
Kevin Rivera
US GOV'T BTFO AND ON SUICIDE WATCH they have to know how they obtained that information, and what they used in order to prove that that information was obtained legally, that it was there in the first place, they could've used that code to copy that shit onto the hard drive and use it to falsely convict him. We need proof that they said they got that data. Basically TL;DR we need to know how they got that information.
Mason Martin
>guilty until proven innocent U wot m8?
Carson Kelly
I have a hard time believing that people who look at loli aren't pedophiles and that a few might act on it. Sure its not the same, and loli shouldn't be a crime, but I'd say it might warrant looking into to prevent crimes.
Grayson Myers
Underrated
Ayden Howard
Lmao this is why your Americuck prison systems are shit tier when will you learn
Blake Kelly
>punishment over rehabilitation This
Grayson Butler
Why should it be a troll? He is right and you know it... We can't keep these piece of garbage in jail, so killing them is the best we can do.
Kayden Evans
How much you guys want to bet that this guy is going to get out scotch free because they won't show the source code.
Juan Taylor
How much are you going to bet that he won't and due to national security they won't. Inb4 muh police state If you're not a pedophile you won't be brought to justice.
Robert Nelson
>I can consider a noisy image cp because I recognise a naked child in it
Grayson Cook
>If you're not a pedophile you won't be brought to justice. Shouldn't they prove that he's a pedophile?
I mean, we all know you're a faggot, but that's not proof, now is it? We have to look at your posts to show it.
