Welcome to BSD General. This thread is open to all things BSD including comparison to GNU/Linux and beginner inquiry.
Interested in trying BSD? Security and open source oriented users should check out OpenBSD. The most common and server-minded distro is FreeBSD, which PC-BSD has forked for desktop users. If you want to use a BSD OS and the installation/configuration doesn't appeal to you consider Apple's OS X in a virtual machine or Mac computer.
For more info on BSD and an in depth comparison to GNU/Linux head here:
>If you want to use a BSD OS and the installation/configuration doesn't appeal to you consider Apple's OS X in a virtual machine or Mac computer. Fuck off shill.
Aaron Sanchez
Not me. Couldn't get internet to work, even in a VM. The DHCP auto config didn't work
Aaron Stewart
me
its pretty good
Julian Edwards
Why would I use BSD over GNU?
Gabriel Foster
can it run steam? (but not any games, just need the chat) can it run discord chat? Is it faster or anything than Linux?
James Ortiz
fun and discovery >can it run steam? (but not any games, just need the chat) freebsd can, through a linux emulation layer which should work 1:1 >can it run discord chat? is it open source? if it is, it most likely can >Is it faster or anything than Linux? never compared it myself
Blake Baker
>pain and frustration ftfy
Charles Perez
not the operating system's fault that you suck
Wyatt Clark
da fuck does bsd stand for
Charles Butler
Berkeley Software Distribution. The name comes from the fact that it used to be Berkeley's own distribution of UNIX but Berkeley has not been involved with the development of the BSDs since CSRG was disbanded.
Matthew Wilson
>general >>general >>>general with a copypasta Kill yourself, OP
Yeah, I upgraded from 5.8 to 5.9 pretty soon after it came out.
Jack Miller
Also had some conversation last night.
Austin Adams
Just started playing with FreeBSD in a vm, so far, I think I'll just stuck to muh linux.
Angel Miller
Why so?
Anthony Bell
here
Kevin Reed
FreeBSD can run most things. OpenBSD can't run a lot of things.
Honestly I used FreeBSD for a while and it felt like linux. So if that's what you're going for then there's that.
OpenBSD feels different and I think I like it.
Elijah Moore
you can use steam chat in the browser if you didn't know.
Luis Russell
I run pfsense and nas4free, but I've never actually bothered with a ground up bsd.
Shit's glorious for turnkey appliances. I've been investigating the internals of aforementioned appliances, I'm hoping to make a bsd based appliance to act as a cert authority for LANs and shit.
Noah Walker
Anyone actually able to run GNOME on OpenBSD? GNOME always crashes as soon as I login.
Or hackintosh. You could try hackintosh which nowadays works fairly well.
Andrew Moore
don't fall for the OpenBSD meme, use the real user friendly bsd, FreeBSD.
Carter Ward
Installed gnome via pkg_add, and did: rcctl disable xdm rcctl enable messagebus avahi_daemon gdm
Then added "multicast=YES" to /etc/rc.conf.local.
I just get the sad face and "something went wrong" When I start gdm. This is on an old laptop with an intel gma. I assume it's something related to graphics drivers because the same issue happens in Virtualbox.
Owen Rogers
keep in mind GNOME3 needs 3D acceleration, maybe your GPU is too old for that
Nathaniel Flores
Reminder that OpenBSD has backdoors in it, ignore OpenBSD shills and use FreeBSD.
Josiah Perez
Yea I'm thinking that may be the case because XFCE works. I thought my GMA4500 would be supported.
Bentley Morales
reminder that you need to switch up your bait
Jordan Hughes
I checked man.openbsd.org/intel.4 and it supports GM45 chipsets, damn I'm not sure what is wrong. I might try current and see if it works.
Bentley Nelson
to be fair, GNOME3 on openbsd isn't even supposed to exist, it's full of hacks because freedesktop sucks and made it depend on all the systemd bullshit
i never got GDM to work either, but i didn't really care because i just log in from the console
Isaac Price
cuck license tho
Brayden Morales
>depend on all the systemd is openbsd using systemd? do you even know the meaning of the word "depend"?
Nolan Lewis
did you read my post at all?
GNOME3 on openbsd is full of hacks to remove the systemd shit from it
Angel Reed
running gnome on openbsd is kind of missing the point, no?
it's like buying a T60 and covering up the ibm logo with an apple sticker
Brayden Johnson
yeah, openbsd taught me that i really didn't need all that shit
i pretty much just use cwm with the X utilities like xclock and xterm and that's enough for me
Chase Bennett
>full of hacks it's called programming, you worthless monkey shit
Jayden Peterson
yeah, you're supposed to throw the computer away after you install openbsd, nothing works anyway
Michael Phillips
>vlc is full of hacks to remove win32 shit from it
Ian Brown
yeah that's why every part of GNOME3 has like 60 patches because it totally works without those, right?
desperate
Jeremiah Ortiz
do you really think GNOME devs work on the openbsd port of GNOME?
no, they don't
gentoo had to make similar efforts, too
Carson Scott
>waaaaaaaaaah >they should work on it >waaaaaaaaaaaah >muh entitlement fuck off, cuck
Adrian Howard
>it totally works without those correct
Angel Ross
>he searches for BSD threads just to get into meaningless arguments about shit he doesn't know anything about then calls people cucks didn't your post get deleted by a janitor earlier?
Cooper Cook
>then calls cucks cucks ftfy
Xavier Torres
well at least you don't link to trollaxor or aboutthebsds anymore
Caleb Myers
been running i386 FreeBSD server (web server) since version 5, mostly it has been a breeze to maintain, stability is top notch, 3 commands major version upgrades, etc.
Parker Long
OpenBSD is an insecure piece of shit. Stupid thing claims to be secure yet refuses to support FreeBSD features like jails.
Jayden Edwards
stop responding to yourself
Jace Cruz
Stop being so delusional
Jayden Howard
notice how the post count doesnt increase
Jack Myers
pajeet fuck off
Grayson Robinson
Which BSD is the best for a beginner? GhostBSD?
Joshua Hernandez
whoops, meant to say poster count
Cameron Lee
>BSD general >all a bunch of mudslinging by a bunch of underage little fucks that probably don't use *BSD or GNU regularly >HAY GYZ I INSTALLED *BSD/GNU ONCE IN A VM IM GOING TO SLING SHIT ABOUT THE ONE I DIDNT INSTALL K
Andrew Gonzalez
FreeBSD, has great help, look it up.
Kayden Evans
>BSD generals >a barneyfag-grade autist shits it up for years
Jaxson Stewart
Thank you, i'll give it a try.
Carter Hill
That's because I made my first reply earlier in the thread stupid. Are OpenBSD faggots really this stupid?
the poster count never increased all the other times you made epic cuck jokes either
Brayden Robinson
stay off the pills fuck tard
Jackson Miller
don't you mean "cuck tard" xD
Connor Miller
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Levi Wood
Is FreeBSD the best as a desktop OS too? I'm not a unix professional, Ghost and pcbsd look like more user-friendly
Chase Cooper
you may also try PC-BSD for desktop
Aaron Robinson
openbsd is the best desktop OS since the devs actually use it on bare metal
Leo Perez
which is based on FreeBSD
Ethan Hernandez
Are BSD package managers as good/fast as Arch's pacman? Also, what about font rendering? Do you just configure freetype and is there Infinality?
Brandon Bailey
>Are BSD package managers as good/fast as Arch's pacman? they're alright >Also, what about font rendering? Do you just configure freetype and is there Infinality? no infinality, but could probably be ported if someone was willing to put effort into it, since it's just a patch set
Kevin Myers
>BSD General >Ordinary reply >Couple help requests >"Fuck OS X, not even BSD bro" >Muh GPL >cuck license kys >*incoherent GNU trash intensifies* Every. Fucking. Time.
Jonathan Clark
What barneyfag tier autist are you talking about?
Noah Turner
the one who's been posting here for a year or two who gets really triggered by BSD
Adrian Bennett
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Carter Miller
>based on applecuckBSD ishyggy
Landon Hughes
t. cuck
Julian Clark
butthurt license freetard
Ethan Torres
>confirmed cuck
Jose Hill
...
Owen Turner
o sup shatner
Michael Morales
> pin-up
Jackson Scott
I heard BSD runs some proprietary shit in their kernel though. Is that true? I'm interested in trying out BSD distros, but shit like calling yourself "OpenBSD" while not all of your source code is open/free seems sketchy.
Sebastian Diaz
OpenBSD doesn't contain binary drivers but it does contain firmware images. The difference is that firmware runs on the actual device while drivers run inside the OS. OpenBSD could ship without these images but that would just cause some computers to not function correctly, it's not very helpful. OpenBSD devs recommend that you simply not buy hardware that relies on these images so they never have to be used. They provide the images anyway just in case.
For a driver to be included in OpenBSD the devs must have access to its source code and the source code must be permissively licensed.
Julian Reed
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Asher Harris
>implying you can't use a computer without a shitty, bloated and frankly unnecessary DE If you must go full retard - Xfce and Lumina work flawlessly and aren't steaming heaps of freedesktop garbage.
Sebastian Watson
Go watch an anime, faggot
Samuel Jenkins
I've been a linux guy for the past couple of years. But I wanna try BDS. What do I choose?
Tyler Carter
*BSD
Jayden Davis
Can we replace stallman with theo? GPL is for communist cucks.
Michael Thomas
FreeBSD 11
- bhyve Improvements ----Initial support for booting Windows guests (r282281)
Joshua Scott
I second this proposal
Dominic Parker
They're all a little different but usually people recommend either FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
FreeBSD functions the most similar to GNU/Linux but also has jails and ZFS and some other neat stuff.
OpenBSD takes a little more time to get used to. OpenBSD is usually used as an appliance like a firewall or a basic server because the OS was written with very strict quality standards.
Tyler Hernandez
>I prefer to be cucked by apple
Brody Reyes
>no bash by default Dropped. sh and csh both suck ass.
Jacob Fisher
Bash is GPL, of course none of them would ship it with their OS. You can always install it yourself but the BSDs recommend not changing the root's shell.
Henry Thomas
>GPL, of course none of them would ship it stop lying