French billionaire found a 100% tuition-free coding school in Silicon Valley

>French billionaire found a 100% tuition-free coding school in Silicon Valley
>don't care about SAT
>free dorms
>open 24/7

>People older than 30 need not apply

techcrunch.com/2016/05/17/coding-school-42-plans-to-educate-10000-students-in-silicon-valley-for-free/

Oldfags are so jelly on hackernews and reddit

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>And it starts with a brand new 200,000 square foot building in Fremont opened 24/7 with thousands of iMacs.

And dropped.

They have keyboards, a screen and support a text editor, don't they ?

>more likely to do the work
>less likely to drop out because they need to "find themselves"
>more likely to be cooperative and work in teams
>has a better understanding of how to act in a professional environment
>still shit on by the industry

Piss off youngfag pieces of shit fuck you.
I'll be glad when this school inevitably goes bankrupt from all the shitty dropout fucks

>42 team has created a computer science version of the Hunger Games. They call it the swimming pool because they want to see if you can swim by throwing you into the figurative pool. You and 1,000 others students face the same coding and logic challenges.

Fucking racist.

If you're 30+ you should already have a career or two.

Sup Forums is the most religious board

this.

Columbia requires graduates to pass a swim test.

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RACIS

Maybe you want to change.

So how does he make money out of this?

I wonder if they're open to international applicants. It's not really viable because you have to travel to California and may not even get in, but it would be interesting.

He don't. It's philanthropy.

>I wonder if they're open to international applicants.
Nope. You need to be an American citizen, national, or a permanent resident, but the French school in Paris is open to anybody in the European Union and it's basically the same thing.

This is an actual practice at the epita (One of the better french programming schools) where for a month straight you have programming challenges every day and if you fail any of them you can't pass, it's pretty hard core, ( writing your own malloc, your own linux shell ), got a few friends doing that atm.

>I want to help people, better build a school in the most expensive place possible with the most expensive systems possible
Is he a dumbass too?

You will mutate into pajeet at the end.

He wants to make "the school of the future" it's a pet/vanity project for him.

Top code monkey school right there, you won't learn any math but I guess it's good for people who can't into uni.

Open programming to everyone so you can lower the wages

Ah. so much for 'only one requirement'.
Do you know what the language of instruction is in the Parisian campus? If it was English I'd be tempted, but knowing the French, I strongly suspect that it's not.

He assumes SV would have the best, most talented programmers. The college is in position for immediate recruitment too.

The French school is hardcore. You have to follow the MIT CS101 in only 6 months. You don't end up code monkeys after 5 years of that shit.

Here's a french report about the school, I guess you can get infos from it
youtube.com/watch?v=3OyvOIzxyMQ

The language of instruction in the French school in Paris is French.

I'm french, it's not hard core at all. It's all about programming, how you don't end up software engineer after that ?
Hardcore is more about ENS, X...

It's pretty common for European universities to conduct some courses in English, especially specialist places like this.

All I needed to see desu.

Everyone looks greasy as fuck too, that place must stink to high heaven.

It's not an university at all, you won't even get a diploma from here

>French billionaire found a 100% tuition-free coding school in Silicon Valley
Geez, what a lucky find.
He didn't even have to pay for it, he just stumbled across one

What did you expect from high school drop out nerds in a free coding school?

In France Uni is free (and if you are really poor you are actually paid up to 500€ / month to attend), but you still need Baccalauréat.
So people from 42 are usually greasy highschool dropouts geeks

I just don't get how how they don't shower, surely they must feel dirty, what the fug.

I do CS in Uni, I'm EU also so it's (mostly) free, and apart from the token autist, at least everyone in my class looks clean.

Americans only think about what's in it for them.

They live in the school, but there are no bedrooms there, they just sleep on the fucking floor. I guess there are no showers too, or too few...

>I want to teach people to code, better go to the place with the most people who know how to code.
???
Is that even safe by EU health and hygiene standards?

Sponsored by large companies.

trips are correct
also
>Fremont

>Oldfags are so jelly on hackernews and reddit

Why? We're the ones who've already made the money and are paying for stuff like this. Where do you think all that sweet angel & VC money comes from? The over-30's who've already done it and made their money.

>>has a better understanding of how to act in a professional environment
>youngfags
What.

Its a fucking school, older people are less willing to learn

>tfw not smart enough to make it on purely intelligence test
DAS RACIST

Honestly though, what do you think the race ratio will be for the school? 60% asian, 40% white?

Nothing new in France.
In this country school is free, university is free. Only private schools aren't.
If you want a room near your university you can get a lot of helps from the state according how many earn your parents.
They gave me 450€ per month, my room costed me 350. I had 100€ left to buy food for the month.
School was also free, and all the sports on the campus cost 10€.

And the swimming pool is made on a lot of private school in France. The best CS school I know in France is Epita. Those guys have a swimming pool that last for 2 years. Then all their projects are made under linux, coding in C and ASM. They recreate a shell, bash, a kernel, and according what they choose, they can study computer security or anything they want.
Of course they still learn things like C#, C++, java etc. but mostly by themselves.

I'm glad I never fell for the programming meme, mainly because I could never figure it out.
I'm sure if I tried and took a class I could churn out pajeet tier code.

>In this country school is free, university is free. Only private schools aren't.
The government, aka you, pay for it with taxes. It's hilarious that people get "free" education in a government-sponsored school where they get fed a bunch of propaganda. It's basically a way for the government to force (public) schools to feed young students whatever shit they want to.

I'm a student so I don't pay taxes, the workers pay for me. There is no trick

...

In France I heard they were teaching things that the companies needed, so once a student have finish those 5 years, he will fit perfectly for the companies sponsoring the school. They will taught you everything so you can get a job.

>I'm a student so I don't pay taxes
You will, and everyone who works does too. Fucking retard, it's like you don't think past "now."

If you go to France, I don't know which country you come from, but you can learn it easily. Once you live on a country and have to do things by yourself, you'll learn quickly.
I worked with an italian scientist that came 6 month in Paris. All the french scientists didn't want to talk in english and told her : "you're gonna learn french, trust me."
In 4 weeks she could follow a french discussion and after 2 month she had a perfect french.
If you ever look at studying in France, there is a lot of helps from the state to student. They'll give you a room and money

epita is average at best desu senpai

In schools like those, there's not necessary bedrooms, but there is showers. The thing is that on some schools where they practice the swimming pool, you clearly don't have time to nothing. They give you things that can't be done in time. The unique way to complete the tasks is to sleep on the school and spend has many time as possible coding

Age discrimination lawsuit.

OLd ppl are can't learn good and should get in their box already

The thing is that in the USA and in France, mentalities aren't the same, and you just have to deal with it.
In France, whatever where you come from, whatever your social position, the money you got, education is a right and an obligation till your 16 y-o.
You'll not understand that we agree paying taxes and then get a lot of stuff for free and never have to take a loan.
On the other side, we don't understand that you'll have to pay thousands of buck for something that should be free.

>something that should be free
It's NOT free though. It's like the berniefaggots that talk about free education, but ignore the 1k USD/year tax increase that they would get. You end up paying more over your working life on "tuition" than I do when I pay it manually.

>learn good
Good is an adjective while well is an adverb answering the question how.

t. over 30 :^)

It's much easier for speakers of Latin based languages to learn other Latin based languages than it is for anyone else. For example, nouns are not gendered in English, so that alone is a huge hurdle for learning the language. As a Canadian, I had basic French classes for six years and I only have a loose grasp on the language (and nevermind that you probably think our French is an abomination)

>should be free
No one's labor is free, not even teachers. That's called slavery. The state doesn't provide things out of thin air, it uses tax revenues to pay for your entitlements; even when it does so on credit and is selling the efforts of future generations.

The difference is that rich citizens are forced to contribute a far larger share to the socialized education system. The wealth is redistributed from the top to the bottom in the form of education.

Nothings free you mongoloid, he's just saying tuition in France is free for students

Why even argue when you can just compare the success of each system?
Fact
America is #1 in Mathematics
America is #1 in Chemistry
America is #1 in Physics
America is #1 in Computer Science
America is #1 in Engineering

Paying more over a much longer period is actually a better way to do things, so long as it's done responsibly. Most people can't afford to pay for school out of pocket and must take loans, at which point their finances are completely at the mercy of banking institutions that will take their money, whatever amount it is, even if it leaves the borrower destitute. When was the last time the government raised your taxes so high that they just decided to take your house instead?

I see so many people wildly opposed to socialized education, medicine, services etc.... But it confuses me because they'll talk about using money wisely and stuff... Tell me: what better way to use your money than to invest in people?

>Epita
>one of the best
Mais bien sûr

Are you retards implying that USA doesn't use tax subsidized education? Higher Education uses tax subsidized grants,G.I Bills, or student loans. All Public Schools are tax subsidized as well.


>Implying this dick waving contest matters.

Meanwhile America Corporation still outsource their STEM degrees in India/China/Eastern European for lower wages.

>Paying more over a much longer period is actually a better way to do things
What. You pay MORE. How the fuck is that better? It's like the cell phone plans (get a FREE iphone with this 80 dollar a month 2 year contract) instead of buying it for 400 and paying 30 a month with a cheaper provider.

It's subsidized, but not to the point of FREE.

As if the world needed more "coders".

>As if the world needed more "coders".

It needs better coders.

As old fart I'm tired of fixing young shits mistakes which are almost always the same mistakes I made when I was a young shit.

I've been there, management be all like EPITA NUMBER ONE FUCK YEAH. But it's really a code monkey school with a decent research lab that almost none of the students ever interact with.

still a massive waste of money

I don't trust a man who can't make simple decisions like that with my education

I'm 30. Should I move there?

Just applied to this, anyone knows what to expect from the "games"

Maths? Logic? specific languages?

>coding school
Cancerous
Also, there are many European countries with free universities.

I'm a student from that school in Paris.
Ask me anything.

Not from the start, you'll do the pool (the selection contest) in C, the hardest thing you'll do are red/black binary trees.

If it's your first time programming, expect to work at least 15 hours per day.

Sounds shitty.

Because making long term payments that are based on how much you make is vastly different from making long term payments that are based on debt and interest rates. I thought that was obvious; it should be obvious to anyone who manages their own money. In the past 30 years, mortgage interest rates have skyrocketed multiple times, forcing people to give up their homes. The most memorable one was due to gross mismanagement by financial institutions and you believe that students, who are financially vulnerable to begin with, should endebt themselves to those institutions? I'm sorry, but that's stupid. Given the situation in America, the government really has no choice but to step up. In a very short time, most bottom level jobs in America are going to be supplanted by robots and AI and if the citizens don't have ready access to education or training necessary to do different jobs, the entire American economy will implode. Strategies that involve "bringing manufacturing back to America" (whatever that even looks like) won't work, because American labour can't compete with globalized labour, and those jobs, too, are going to be automated anyway.

This isn't even a question of whether you believe in handouts anymore. It's a question of whether or not you want America to remain economically relevant in the global economy.

>Americucks shitting on free education.

Is that why they're still stuck with imperial units and a majority believing that angels are real?

>In the past 30 years, mortgage interest rates have skyrocketed multiple times, forcing people to give up their homes
And if they straight out bought a house they wouldn't have that issue.
>students, who are financially vulnerable to begin with, should endebt themselves to those institutions
Students wouldn't be having this issue if the whole "traditional family" didn't drop out of style. My parents paid for my college and I paid them back, I didn't have any debt to external entities at any time.

Dude, cut that out. You want "muh moon" peeps chiming in?

>I'll be glad when this school inevitably goes bankrupt

It's been there in France for three years and keeps attracting big personalities from google, the NASA, facebook, Apple, etc...

It wasn't created by 42, it was taken from another french private school, EPITECH, whose old director works at 42.

Also, faggots from private school who read this always go mad at "hurr they ripped off us", but they have literally no idea how the school is after you're in.

By getting reputed, the school can provide better quality programmers than your average CS student that studied java for the sole purpose of having an expensive piece of toilet paper to put on their resume.
Also in france, it's getting a lot of partnership with other schools and government programs.

It's funny, but actually a quite high percentage of students at 42 won't finish it, they will either get hired with a very interesting salary or launch their own startup.

I've met only 3 or 4 high school drop outs, and they were highly profficient. Most of the others have a diploma from higher education, and some even have masters in maths.
Also, a few are still doing their studies at a uni *while* doing 42 because they're very flexible on how you can progress.

Some of the project subjects are written in english, and video lessons are progressively being subbed in english. We have a few exchange students here in Paris.

You do get one, but it's not recognized by the state.

No one forces you to do math but if you don't on your own you'll quickly hit a wall in your progress.

cont

If you're 30 with no education, you kinda sorta wasted your life and there's no point in trying to catch up, so it's understandable.

So as a 26 year old with no real skills, is it a bad idea for me to start learning to program now?

t. not very good at math either

May I ask how much did your university cost? Because your post seems to imply that they are cheap since most families will probably not be able to give $39k out of the blue.

>And if they straight out bought a house they wouldn't have that issue.
Buying a house is not cheap.

It is never a bad idea to learn programming.

>Fremont
>Silicon Valley

Pick one

I only want to do it if it's going to pay off. If I can't get decent employment, then my only option is to go out and start my own business/SaaS, but that requires a brilliant idea and a whole lot of other talents

They do, only for the duration of the entry exams, the rest of the year no one is allowed to stay there to sleep.
Showers are always accessible tho, and I don't know why, but people actually take showers here.

Here in France it's mostly white, I don't know obviously how it will be in the states.

42 has all of this, plus OCaml, Haskell, and student can submit their own subject for projects.

When I was taking the exam I worked with a 28 years old man who used to be a cashier. For some reason he was pretty good at recursives while most of the people that never programmed before just had a hard time figuring it out.

I disagree. When you're 18 you know fuckall about the world, you get shoved into choosing a career that will define your whole life at a time that you're completely clueless and all you want to do is fuck around. 30 would be a much sensible age to actually choose a life path, you've tried more stuff and are more aware of the world in general, thus meaning a better choice. People live up to a hundred nowadays, calling 30 "too late" is kind of silly.

>university cost
It was about 40k for a 4 year degree. That's 10k a year. If your family can't afford that then you're going to get fucked with loans, but if you get a good major that won't matter anyways.
>Buying a house is not cheap.
Then you shouldn't get your own fucking house. This "everyone needs their own house" meem is fucking retarded.

It will pay off even if you're not getting paid to program.

I program for hobby and essentially a neet. I write my own programs for my neet needs. Tools to enhance my anime, games, browsing needs.

>getting better anime
>paying off

Dude...

Why did you even reply to that underage retard?

Also more and more people have to change careers midway through life or at least keep learning new skills to keep a job.
It's not like back in the old days when you just went to school for something, got a job with a big company and just worked there until you retired.
This is especially true in the tech sector where things can change fast and most people wind up floating around between companies and working contracts.

Truth. I found out what I really want after I fucked up my first and only attempt, because it was wrong.

This

Be honest, who will apply?

I will

Why? It's really shitty and not acknowledged at all. Either go to an actual uni or learn by yourself.