Are there any non-autistic reasons why someone would choose Arch over Debian Unstable?

Are there any non-autistic reasons why someone would choose Arch over Debian Unstable?

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Are there any non-autistic reasons why someone would choose any distro?

Yes.

You can't even name a single one

>package manager
>simple package creation
>packages unpatched, close to upstream

Can't or won't?

>using unstable os
Just why?

The real question is why someone would choose any unstable "rolling release" distro instead of a stable one.

I don't want to dread aptitude update && aptitude upgrade in fear that my system might break in unexpected ways.

Arch is good if you need to customize everything, but a ton of people use it wrong. I don't think it should ever be used as a desktop, it should be used more like gentoo.

Debian has the annoying freetard warnings and package hiding. Arch doesn't care about that stuff, proprietary software is treated as equal.

>using Linux as a desktop OS
kek'd

Its not really fair to say Arch is unstable. Packages do go through testing. But its certain less well tested and less stable than Debian.

I use Arch because I want bleeding edge packages for some of the tools I use for software development. The trade off isn't worth it for most peoplel.

Windows shills are on point today.

If I want a few bleeding edge packages, I can just ./configure && make && make install

At least I don't shill for free, freetard.
Get a life

"Shill" is the refuge of people who can't argue on the merits.

>can't argue on merits
because
>>using Linux as a desktop OS
>kek'd
and
>Are there any non-autistic reasons why someone would choose any distro
are such well thought-out arguments against the use of Linux.

Yes, Debian's sources.list may conflict each other.
Also, Debian doesn't have PPA system so it's inferior to Ubuntu.

Deleting minesweeper doesn't delete your GNOME-shell in Arch

Your 5 rupees do not count as a "payment", rajesh

Yes they are,
Linux is meant for servers
If you actually had a job, you wouldn't have time to hack-together stupid commands in order to get a functional desktop.
But since you're a lifeless NEET, keep using Linux where it wasn't meant to be used, and feel better about yourself for being obscure.

Not him but I use Linux for different reasons. I do have a windows VM though

>I want bleeding edge packages for some of the tools I use for software development.
genuine question: what does this mean? I don't do software development but i'm curious what it means to have the most up to date packages

Shots fired. I agree with this so much. People who defend Linux because they use it as a daily OS solution are fucking retarded. Linux is for very specific purposes. Windows or even OSX for that matter are better for every day use computer shenanigans.

So Arch is for cucks?

That's alright, I also use Linux on my router, old laptops, my vps, and seedbox.
I'm only against these retards using it as their daily-desktop OS.

>all this anti free software shilling
Sup Forums is truly dead.

I windows as a daily OS under a VM hosted by Linux

Debian*
Arch is not a wannabe freetard distro

>i don't share your hobby of learning computer operating systems and tuning my computer therefore you're a lifeless neet

this is like calling people who work on their cars on the weekend lifeless

L O G I C
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I'm a Full Stack Web Developer you dense fuck.
Your hobby != Your daily production OS

>if you have hardware made in this century
>if you want AUR
>if you prefer a blank slate to stupid defaults
Personally I use Bunsenlabs and Manjaro, the benefits of both without the need to fiddle with crappy video and wifi drivers for weeks

>Full Stack Web Developer

Someone finally made an edit of it! Made that comic about 5 years ago and it's been reposted over 600 times. It's a good joke too, the implication being the arch turd is both unprovoked in his sperging and has long pushed everyone else away by the sperging so there's nobody else to hear it.

except people who work on their cars on weekends don't get on the internet and tell everyone that NOT working on your car every weekend is inferior to working on it. And I have many friends who like to tune / rice their cars, and they have car problems way more frequently than my non fucked with stock car.

>i don't share your hobby of learning computer operating systems and tuning my computer therefore you're a lifeless neet

I'm interested in learning linux and messing around with it, however why would I have my MAIN computer be a hacked together project?

>NEET

>Webdev
>Calling others NEET
LMAO

This is the image that comes to mind everytime someone tries to tell me that using linux as a main operating system for home / casual use is a good idea.

>except people who work on their cars on weekends don't get on the internet and tell everyone that NOT working on your car every weekend is inferior to working on it.
Do me a favor and go on /o/ right now.

>Webdev
>Calling others NEET

>webdev is an occupation that you get paid for

you do know what NEET stands for, right?

>Webdev
>Payment
How does it feel to live below the poverty line, poorfag ahahahaha

Can't expect comprehension from a neckbeard living in his mom's basement

(You)

Goodbye shitty anti-arch thread, enjoy desktops

Prajeets were trying to shill windows tho

I don't know what web developers make, I'm not the dude who said he is one. I'm just pointing out that you don't know what NE(Employed)T stands for.

>How does it feel to live below the poverty line, poorfag ahahahaha

Diverted argument to pointless insult. There's a psychological term for what you just did there.

You seem to have a chronic delusion of everyone being jobless if he/she does not use your babbycare OS

What you just wrote is an argument. A garbage one, but you aren't exactly trying, are you? What you wrote before isn't an argument, it's just poopyposting.

Anyway, while something like Arch or Debian unstable might not be great desktop systems, you don't have to even touch the command line for most desktop-oriented distros.

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Would you recommend Debian testing or stable?

Post a dope cyberpunk theme user i need inspo

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see:
All I said was that you don't know what NEET stands for based on your post right there. webdev is a job, and therefore that person is not NEET by definition.

When did I say anything about OS here? When did I say anyone was jobless based on OS?
I just think people who defend their weird hobbyist use of Linux against windows are retarded hacker-meme circle-jerkers.

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Ugh my script is broken, I'll fix it tomorrow. Anyways to cut this short: Fuck you windows shills, anti-arch shills, uninformed retards who spout memes and everything in between. I hope you all die.

>When did I say anything about OS here?
Right here =I, like everyone else know what NEET means. Sorry I couldn't take you seriously (you being a ""wevdev" and all)

Windows was getting in my way. It uses way more RAM and ends up making my rendering tasks swap to disk which makes them go slower than a retard on a reverse treadmill. Linux uses entire GBs less RAM than Windows, so I swap far less often and can get away with being cheap.

Used Manjaro before, it was nice but I wasn't impressed. Better than Arch, at least. Bunsenlabs is GOAT though.

I'm not that poster, I said i'm not that poster
here:
>I don't know what web developers make, I'm not the dude who said he is one.

I just agree with him that people who think Linux is a daily use OS are retarded memelords.

>people who think Linux is a daily use OS are retarded memelords.
Again, you seem to have a chronic delusion of everyone being jobless if he/she does not use your babbycare OS

Also, what do you do that justifies using Linux? You seem to pretty hype about it.

>Linux is meant for servers
see, this is wrong on a deep and fundamental level, and it only gained popularity on servers because it was like Unix but free (as in beer)

If you really want to run Linux on the desktop as a non NEET, just install Xubuntu. You literally don't need bleeding edge packages if you're just a regular user who wants to get things done day-to-day, and other than Broadcom wifi on a laptop (something I had an issue with recently when installing a fresh copy of Win 7, and on either system, it's "plug computer into router, download drivers/firmware, done"), it just works. 95% of the day-to-day shit you'd do on a machine is entirely doable with no fuss or fiddling with the command line under Xubuntu.

People will go "lol, noobuntu" because it's actually easy to use and just works, and anyone thinking that's a bad thing is retarded.

It's nice if you're doing dev shit and just want up-to-date software.

Also use Arch in a VM on my work laptop for being productive.

I'm not actually sure. Stable is more geared to servers that really need things to basically never change besides bug fixes. All old software, but it'll never crash on you.

Testing is nice, but sometimes a little slow (a few days) on getting you your security patches since the Debian security team really only maintains stable.

I actually don't think Unstable would make a bad desktop OS as long as you're careful about when you upgrade.

Ultimately, if your computer absolutely must not crash then go with Stable. If you can't stand having years-old software go with Testing.

>what do you do that justifies using Linux

Also, the forced upgrade

thanks senpai

You make apps? Okay, you're not who I'm talking about then.

I'm talking about people who use Linux as a windows replace because they think it's better for every day use, which it isn't.

I don't consider writing apps an everyday use, that'd be a specialized use.

Linux is generally faster, more hardware efficient and has better battery life for laptops.
>b-but muh DirectX

It has unstable in its name.

generally faster and hardware efficient, but you can't make use of the hardware, because half the things people use windows for that are taxing can't be done on Linux.

I guess if all you need, Linux can provide, it's better. But a lot of people need things Linux can't supply.

Unless you're using an Intel atom, obviously, then windows is the superior OS.

No retard I am talking about built in ads and annoying feedbacks within the OS

>I'm so retarded I am unable to turn off suggestions in settings
with such a low IQ you'd get adware on your pc anyway, dumbass. They're just helping you out :^)

Unstable doesn't mean it crashes all the time, the same way "stable" in the debian sense doesn't mean it never crashes. Stability refers to the unchanging-ness of its software. Software in Debian stable is never updated except for bug and security fixes. You'll never update debian and find a new feature or any sort of functional change. Debian unstable changes constantly, and it's unstable in that way. IIRC it still uses the latest stable version in all its packages.

No sorry I cannot justify using an OS that comes with scam and having to turn them off like a true cuckold

>turn off suggestions
Faggot does his screenshot look like a suggestion that can be turned off globally? Kill yourself.

On the other hand you can justify using a toy OS on your production machine
Oh wait, you don't "produce" anything, you obese excuse of a human.

>toy OS
Linux is not a gaymen platform, Sup Forums. Go get cucked by ads in security patches. You wouldn't even bother with your subhuman IQ

Care to show some examples of what you REALLY need?
Atm beside directx based programs you have no reasons not to use gnu/linux

lighter
faster boot time
faster execution
better package manager
rolling release

Manchild games

>production machine
>you don't "produce" anything
Who produces anything at home? When I get home from work my first thought is not "Wow I think I'll start work on my hot new mixtape." I bet you're one of those "work from home" NEETfags who lives in their parents basement. Kill yourself.

Secondly, Linux is even better suited toward production than Windows. The practical problem is that a lot of people's production software doesn't support linux. If it does, then Windows is literally holding you back. See

>better package manager
explain
>faster execution
lots of explaining

>rolling release
so is debian unstable, pretty much.

>Better package manement
Doesnt delete window manager when removing games

Are there any non-autistic reasons why op made this thread?

sounds more like the package maintainer's fault than the package manager itself, but fair enough.

faster execution tho?

>apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install gimp
vs
>pacman -Syu gimp

Well I haven't used Debian in a while but I don't believe its package manager supports drop in kernel replacement, and if apt or dpkg does it's certainly not as streamlined as pacman is. I perform code level modifications regularly and that sort of support is essential to me.

Right. It's been a few years since I used debian, I forgot about needing to do all that just to update packages.

The logitech speakers ruin it.

there are more options for client software in arch, its not bad for a desktop.

Sure you can always compile but wasting time fucking with stuff to make it do what you want is never enjoyable.

If you're just looking for a nice rolling release distro why not try openSUSE tumbleweed? More stable, less filling.

Dude, are you me?

Doesn't change the fact that it has unstable in its name and arch doesn't.

It's all about first impressions pal.

So you're retarded then? Alright.

How's your day going you fucking landwhale that you're out and shit posting again?

the AUR, obviously. Who the fuck wants to search for and manage PPAs for every piece of software that isn't in the official repos?

I actually tried that once. I found that it was incredibly bloated and the package manager lacked the functionality that I use to help detect packages I don't want. When I tried to ask about it in the forums, I was recommended some commands that didn't do anything close to what I was asking for, and when I pushed it further they basically told me that I'm not the target demographic because a true openSUSE user prefers to have bloat.

I meant more besides the AUR, because that's the major thing that's been keeping me on Arch. Besides, debian has a comparable amount of source packages to Arch+the AUR. That said, you can't find patched packages like gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view or pamac-patched-headerbar in debian's repos, though. On the other hand even for stuff that's not in the repos, there are very often .deb files offered as downloads.

What was bloated about it? And can you link the thread?

forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/495792-List-all-installed-packages

My bad. I meant
forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/495792-List-all-installed-packages/page2

Well that's disappointing. What about the bloat?

pacman > apt in every way
identifiable and small "core" system
pick what you want without fighting shitty defaults
AUR
elitist community that knows their shit
rolling release, no burning disk images because everything is easily upgradable from pacman
cutting-edge software

Stability concerns for home users are overblown in the current year. I've had Arch systems with months of continuous uptime.