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Who else uses this?

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I would if it was actually on f-droid.

I do

Push notifications.

Me!

What about them?

That's the reason it's not in fdroid

I do, it's fucking great
Can't think of any reason not to use it. Encryption aside, it also has the best user interface and is light on resources

Me. I've been able to get about six others to start using it regularly as well. Not much, but better than nothing.

My buddy in IT security got me into it. Can't even get my wife into it, because she has "nothing to hide." Ughghghghghh

Divorce now.

Even then, signal is pretty amazing. Easy to use, nice interface and fast

How does it actually work? Does it support sms and online messaging? If it does, I could get some of my friends to use it and finally ditch Messenger for good.

What a fucking shame normies don't use it.
Fucking society, because of them I have to use proprietary closed source piece of shit that is WhatsApp.
When Facebook's botnet got encryption, everyone was "Yaay, encryption!", but when I told them it might not be encryption in a true meaning and told them about Signal they were like "I have nothing to hide anyways".

as someone who needs to use an secure text app for various reasons, i dont use it, everyone in the scene here has fell for the telegram meme, even tho signal is safer

It can replace messenger. If your target is not using signal it sends sms. And you can receive your sms in signal. Pretty convenient

What the actual fuck.

This.

I am so sick and tired of explaining them, I don't even give a shit anymore. Because of them I can ditch Facebook all together. So I use "Notification for Facebook" which runs in background and gives notification if I have message or Friend request etc.

I miss stalking a few bitches though.

how vulnerable is telegram tho?

Oh, cool. I guess I'll just have to ''convert'' my friends. I don't think it would be very hard for most of them, since messenger is awful on every single OS.

LibreSignal, friend.

I use the browser for stalking

Yes. I use it as my standard messaging app, for both SMS and Signal messaging, and many of my friends use it too.

It's the only one I trust with my nudes, for what that's worth. GCHQ have got quite enough porn of me already.

See above re: nudes.

This. Android M and onwards require Google Play services to get push notifications through 'deep sleep' mode. Google's fault: not Signal's fault. There's an override, but you're not allowed to use it if you could use GCM. It only uses GCM for wakeups.

>Facebook's botnet
If you mean WhatsApp, it now has the exact same encryption Signal does on the message layer, and slightly superior encryption (Noise) on the transport layer - just like it claims - when I analysed it. Unfortunately it's closed-source so it's hard to verify that and not really worth it for future versions, but I commend them at least for rolling good crypto out to like a billion normies without them needing to give a shit.

Signal's still better, because open-source.

Pity Signal Desktop absolutely sucks and Moxie is allergic to the idea of syndication.

Telegram is actively dangerous. Most of the time it is cleartext; the rest of the time, well, it's like someone who's never seen cake tried to bake one using rusty nails.

Server side is closed source, so trust that as much as you will.

Push notifications are fine. It doesn't harm the privacy

>See above re: nudes

We don't sext. :(

one thing that's bothering me is the inability to send arbitrary file types. otherwise i don't see any flaws, it just works (unlike xmpp)

>needs your phone #
>wants to be your texting app
Kill yourself if you use this shit.

but secret mode on it advertises direct device-to-device connection, how true is that?

So, what's a viable alternative?

This. Use chatsecure or conversations, both on fdroid and you can even configure them for Tor.

Anyone else notice a delay between the first and second check marks?

phone # is nothing, you just buy prepaid if you really need security

It was just removed :(

Just because you can't find it doesn't mean it was removed.

So, where is it user?

Right. If you can't even convince normies to use Signal, which is as simple and unintrusive as you can possibly get, then maybe, MAYBE, you can get them to take out that "untrusted sources" tick, install F-Droid, Orbot and Chatsecure and create that XMPP account via Tor. And don't forget to compare the key fingerprints!

>muh normies
i don't give a fuck about "normies", if you can't get them to use something secure then it's their problem and you have shit friends.

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If I can't use something secure to communicate with my friends, then what's the point?

Sure, if you wanted to do something that might get you in trouble, you'd better take the Chatsecure route. And if the other end is too dumb to handle it, you should consider that a red flag.

But if you just want privacy when communicating with your normie friends and family, Signal is perfect.

>just pay money to make up for the software's shortcomings

The only reason I stopped using this was because neither one of my cars would tell me if I got a text message.

me. a lot of my normie friends use it

is it possible to host your own server of signal?

>Can't even get my wife into it, because she has "nothing to hide."