Are SSDs a meme or is faster boot time worth it? Also, ideal amount of space on one?

Are SSDs a meme or is faster boot time worth it? Also, ideal amount of space on one?

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If you're just getting it for boot times you're retarded and the ideal space is get a fucking HDD you mongoloid.

My rig boots slower with a 950 Pro than it did with a cheap ssd lol

Only morons care about boot time anyway; how often do you really boot?

I bought a 1TB SSD last year, it's the best thing I've bought in a long time.

Once a day, I turn off PC at night because I'm not autistic about muh boot times

>thinking all SSD's help is boot time

Sup Forums, everyone

People who pay for the electricity bill?

Just buy a 250gb SSD they're like $60.

Don't be a poorfag.

on laptops they are worth it.. on desktops, not so much

LOL poorfag can't afford 10 bux a year for convenience.
>not letting your maintenance tasks run overnight

Shitty mobo with shitty NVMe boot support

What if I have an old 320 GB hard drive that spins at 5,400 RPM? Salvged it from a laptop to save money and build PC sooner. Is upgrading to 240GB SSD + 2TB Hard drive worth Moonies?

YOU WANT FASTER BOOT?
INSTALL LINUX

Yes, more storage is always worth it

Fuck off I actually wana do shit on my PC

>I can't do basic math nor have I ever paid the electric bill: the post

It does support it at least

>boot times
If you say this you haven't used an SSD for more than 5 minutes, stay poor. There's other shit that happens after you turn the fucking computer on. "SSD is a meme" is a meme. Maybe you tried out SSDs in 2006? It's a decade later

I haven't and that's why I'm wondering is it worth getting, good job on pointing out the obvious though

If you're a porn addicted collector HDD all the way.

Pretty tired of these SSD threads, there's enough information on the internet proving how good they are for performance overall. I transformed a POS laptop I thought was good to throw, in a super fast machine, it's incredible. Best meme that happened this last decade.

Yes, why wouldn't you? They hugely outperform HDD's in every way.

Just get a 250gb SSD with your OS and any other disk intensive applications and have a secondary HDD drive which you store everything else on.

It will be like night a day. Go for it.

>on desktops, not so much

For gaymen it's good actually, and i don't mean putting games on SSD, i mean putting the pagefile on the SSD. Some games like GTA V create 10gb pagefile and it stutters like hell if it's on a HDD.

256GB is the best size for an ssd

In what conceivable way could SSDs be considered a meme?

How much shit do you store on your hard drive generally and how much of it would you want stored on your SSD? If you don't store tons of shit and most of the space on your current hard drive is taken up by things you want to load quickly you might be better off going with a 480GB SSD and no HDD. I originally planned on going with an SSD+HDD setup but after looking at what I all had on my HDD I decided it would be ridiculous when I had about 30 GB of shit that I wouldn't want on the SSD.

>Are SSDs worth it?
Yes.
>Ideal amount of space on one?
240-256gb

Some people on here do say SSDs are a meme and a waste of money
I don't know if they're just shitposting or if they actually believe it

I'm close to filling 1TB in steam games, ran out of space a while ago.

SSDs are almost as cheap as HDDs now. Why is this even a question, OP?

No they're not. I can get a 2TB HDD for about the price of a 240GB SSD

boot time isn't where the big performance gain is

random read and write is what SSDs are good for.
they are fantastic for servers

This, thread is confusing - is OP dumb or pretending to be dumb.. can't be sure.

Like getting spied?

>SSDs are almost as cheap as HDDs now

This only applies to Americans, here in Brazil they still cost 8 times more.

A WD black drive is good enough for me, going to sell my 240gb SSD as soon as I get the chance

I refuse to buy anything with a set lifespan.

An SSD is going to last years for the average person, especially if you do things like disable the paging file and hibernate, a hard drive can last longer, but it'll still die eventually

So what do you store your data on?

>fast boot times
Stick with an hdd, dumbass.

Stainless Steel Punch Tape

It literally dosent apply to anyone...

Where can you get a 4TB SSD for £90!? You arse hole.

I don't think the faster boot times compensate for the higher cost
It's 2016 anyway
are you running a SPARC workstation?

$0.00 have been deposited to your FSF account.

>all this bait
>people actually arguing about the SSDs are a meme meme

Stop buying SSDs ffs

/thread

>if you do things like disable the paging file and hibernate

Neither of these things actually affect modern SSDs lifespan.

forums.adobe.com/thread/1115266

Many programs still require pagefile. It's just recommended to keep pagefile with the same initial and max size, so it never rewrites anything, so it's always the same pagefile.sys size.

Isn't it still taking up unessisary space and using up some writes?

then install Linux

LOL poorfag can't afford an SSD

It is pretty sweet to have an OS drive and a data drive Really lets you organize your shit.

Anyway, if you install a lot of big programs, then you should probably go for 512 GB. If you just install a handful of big programs, then just get 256 GB.

I have heard enough of HDD's spinning for a lifetime.

I'll buy a SSD if only to get rid of that.

Placebo

Modern SSDs can handle like 40GB of writes every day for 10 years

Stop giving a fuck about SSD lifetime

I have an Intel SSD i've been using since 2008, still at 98% on the media wearout indicator.

Lmao 2 ssds in laptop
3 in desktop

Not really. Pagefile is a crucial part of Windows, turning it off detrimental.

Mark Russonovich, Windows NT developer gave his final word on pagefile here:
blogs.technet.microsoft.com/markrussinovich/2008/11/17/pushing-the-limits-of-windows-virtual-memory/

He is also against using pagefile on Ramdisks:
overclock.net/t/1193401/why-it-is-bad-to-store-the-page-file-on-a-ram-disk

Now using pagefile on the SSD can be quite a performance boost.

And keeping the pagefile on a fixed size, completely eliminates any chances of causing any trouble. It will work like any other file on the SSD.

>If you're just getting it for boot times you're retarded
For what other purpose would you get an SSD if not for the boot/access times?

Overall system responsiveness is greatly improved

SSD for OS and commonly used programs.
HDD of everything else.

Every machine I own uses this setup.

>having a pagefile of any size.

Get out, and don't forget to buy some more RAM on your way out.

SSDs have always been at least 8x more than a HDD. The cost per GB is closer to RAM than an HDD.

SSD's are FAR faster than HDD's. It will dramatically improve your boot time and your load time in any applications that are on it.

I can pretty much instantly tell if I'm on a SSD or HDD if I open a few applications. It's not a meme, it's a significant difference. Whether or not that matters is up to you, but it is certainly not a meme.

As for space get more than you think you need. For you OS drive I wouldn't go less than 120 or 80 at a bare minimum.

For me, an SSD isn't a big deal. Turning off the page file was a MUCH more noticeable upgrade than my 850 evo.

>turning off page file with a paltry 8 GiB ram

>Wintendo
Nice to see youre a gamer on the go

That was before I joined the 32GB club. Still plenty unused RAM even with 8GB + pagefile off.

The naughties are calling, they want you to go home in time for dinner.

I got a slim SSD in my everyday carry laptop. It's very noticable. I'd still rather much larger HDDs for the same money.

SSDs are the reason my MBA runs games faster than my last desktop PC. well, that and the OS being actually good.

I can't believe we're having this thread. what's next, "are multicore CPUs a meme?"

>SSDs are the reason my MBA runs games faster than my last desktop PC
I'm pretty sure it isn't, and that desktop much have been broken or really shitty

yes, it was broken and shitty because it was using magnetic disks, AMD hardware, and running windows :( I can't believe I used to perform computations by rubbing sticks together

Don't you have somewhere else you could be shitposting?

sure, but I chose this thread because...

I love you, user!

but not as much as I love my mac

>Not having a boot SSD and multiple HDDs for storage space

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

You fucking idiot
You need to set bios to UEFI mode or else it isn't compatible

SSDs are ideal if you're constantly working with a considerable amount of files and directories. Getting one simply for the 'le boot tiem' is a testament to one's ignorance in matters of storage.

The point is to have considerably faster read and write times. If you were, let's say, searching an archive system that holds millions upon millions of files, you could cut down your search time by a lot if you used an SSD.

By consumer standards, the difference in performance between solid states and hard drives is far more negligible than it would be in a commercial environment.

It's not just for the faster boot time, it's for faster everything.
if you have to access a file (especially a lot of small ones) an ssd will blow an HDD away.
Honestly at this point I don't know why people even ask this shit? are they WD/Seagate shills?

Where can you find a 4TB HDD for less than £160 you ass hole.

>2016
>people still believe the SSDs are a meme meme

Are prices really that much higher outside the US? Cheapest 4TB I could find in a quick search was £75

Are you including tax?
Not that you know what tax is though.

Yes prices are higher outside the US. It's not just a matter of currency conversion, shit is actually more expensive.

>Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?

>Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well.

>In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that

>• Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,
>• Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB.
>• Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size.
>In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.
blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx

>In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.
>there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.

Tax only applies if the seller and buyer are in the same state. Even so, 100% tax would still be cheaper than £160.

+Reduce boot time
+Reduce load times
+Reduce noise levels
+Reduce weight
+Smaller
+Increase response times
+Gradual wear for plenty of notice before failed drive and low chance of losing data
+Looks cool in benchmarks and speccy threads
+Easier to break in case of FUCKO moments
-Bit more expensive
Up to you OP. I have the 850 Pro myself and looking to get the 950 for my next build.

>less than £50 for ~240gb

Shits getting interesting next year.

Do you use your rig for work too? I don't think I'll ever need an m.2 SSD.

Yes.

No, I want to do a mini it build and the m.2 form factor will save me from managing another wire.

Itx*

Yeah my brothers old laptop is nice now with an ac wifi card an ssd. He enjoys it.

thats because of access time you fucking retard.

But what about rotational velocidensity?

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I'm just spoiled by it now. As usual, it's "worth" depends on your use case and monetary resources.

Add to that:
Use less power
Less heat produced

So you concede his point, that SSDs greatly help overall system responsiveness? i.e. they are really useful if you dislike wait-times?