CS students-

CS students-

What was the hardest part of your curriculum? Mine personally is coping with other Computer Science students. Why are they all such ridiculous cunts?

>tfw I'm one of the few people who actually has any interest in CS
>tfw the rest are just normies who were told they have to go to college after high school but really don't know why they're here

When you're stuck on an assignment, some asshole from your current year or previous years will have everything public on GitHub.

aka, there is no hard part except for the autism when doing group projects

>always interested in computers
>wrote my first website at 13
>do independent study on computer stuff because I love it
>everyone I compete with is just in it for the bux and resents what they do
>I'm always better than them because I keep an avid interest

Don't see the problem here.

>everyone in your class will steal all the code they can and then not know how to program when they're done
>they'll still wind up working at a better job than you.

Feels bad man.

I'm 28, so none of them really talk to me or acknowledge me. I've been able to do all my projects/assignments solo so far. Feels good, man.

Do you eat your lunches in a toilet stall?

Some math courses such as real analysis were challenging. Not hard but you had to put some effort. Don't know why people complained about calculus or whatever though.

Also dealing with bullshit business courses and such.

>everyone I compete with is just in it for the bux and resents what they do
>I'm always better than them because I keep an avid interest

They will all be salaried on $80,000 with a mortgage and 1.6 children in 10 years time while you will be a forever alone unemplyed NEET with a backlog of deadend "fun" projects. Screencap this post and use it to switch to plumbing in ten years time.

Can confirm that it's the same way in industry

I was 23 when I went back to school and the same shit happened to me. All the kids there were 18 or 19 and they all freaked out when they found out I was 23. One guy even yelled it in class. "user YOURE 23?!?!"
Made me feel like an old shit. Apparently I looked younger than I actually am but still I don't get the big deal about being in your twenties and going to college. They stopped talking to be after that bunch of dumb kids.

In Finland we have no tuition so many spend time at college partying until they are 27 or so

I want socialism so someone else can pay for everything I chose to do.

i just went to lecture for the tests and otherwise learned the shit on my own

that said, i didn't have problem with the other CS students. They mostly just talked about videogames

I'm 28 too. Going back to school next semester. Last year took some courses with 17-18 year olds. Most people assume I am early 20s so luckily I still fit in.

>half of my class is just people being there because hollywood makes them believe programming is cool
I fully know what you mean

Make sure they don't find out youre real age otherwise they will think you are some kind of creep.

Machine learning when I had weak mathematics. Complete fucking disaster.

Yeah, I'm not telling them my real age. I'm there to learn, not play around and go to parties. It's amazing how different your lives are, they are wide eyed and soooo excitied about first year of school!!!! When you have a real life, job, etc. on top of courses.

You don't need that much math to get into it. Just some multivariable calc, basic prob and stats and linear algebra.

I want capitalism so I can be in $1000000000 of debt after finishing college

Some of them at my uni just can't wrap their minds around the fact that a person has to work to support themselves and go to school, so they will be much older than they are as a result when they finally get the time and money.

>I don't understand how taxes work

>normies

Someone's projecting

>Mine personally is coping with other Computer Science students. Why are they all such ridiculous cunts?
That got way better as time passed and all twats dropped out. Hardest course for me was computer graphics.

Physics, it was useless/

100% correct. I have to work 40-hours (get permission from my boss to take classes) and adjust my work schedule around my exams. I may be switching managers soon (hope not) and they may/may not be as flexible as my current manger.

My classmates have no idea what it's like to work on the 10+ hours of assignments, work 40-hours and still have to find time to study/schedule work in advance so you can take time off to take an exam.

If your teammates are cunts like this then your project will fail.

It's not hard. Just agree to divide things up, then agree on how each team member's API will look. The team member could write the shittiest code in the world but at the end of the day, as long as their data/API/whatever lines up for the next team member to use, it won't matter, your project will stay on time, possibly even be early. Use what little extra time there is to micro-optimize things later, but remember the first rule is:

Ship it first.

>mfw pumbing pays upwards from 120k/year and you own the business, set your hours, you're the boss, etc.

No-one forced you to sign the line. No-one forced you to attend . No-one forced you to piss your tuition money away on parties and beer. No-one forced you to become a debt serf. No-one forced you to avoid doing work over the summer to help offset the cost of your enrollment. No-one forced you at all, but you.

>Implying implications

I'm from Europe, so don't have to worry about crippling debt after finishing college (Oh no, socialism!), and will still be done after the expected time.
But what options do people in the US have? Go to community college, aka prepare for unemployment? And if not, where exactly do you think millions of college students can work over the summer (If they have any time, that is) to earn enough money to make a significant difference on the amount of debt?

my advanced cs theory class was hard from a curricular perspective. during the last 3 weeks I had absolutely NO idea what was going on. I can't believe I passed, but less got an A (I think the prof bumped by B up)

hardest from a programming standpoint was computer graphics. I understood what was going on but I just couldn't get my programs to work. I was so sure I was doing it right, but I wasn't. by the time we got to 3D I just stopped going to class and half-assed the assignments. got a C, but Cs get degrees

dealing with other CS students is definitely strenuous to say the least

90% of those people in my class dropped out or changed majors to IT before graduating. give it time

lol I love what I do and I'm salaried on $120k 2 years out of college. you just did something wrong, perhaps you're bad at interviewing?

obviously they didn't know that stuff, which is why they said weak mathematics.
>being this much of a mainsplainer

when I was 18 I thought those people were simple/lazy fucks who didn't go to college and eventually realized they couldn't support their families on minimum wage. I know a lot better now though.

this is myopic. unskilled jobs are leaving the west and many companies refuse to hire people who know what they are doing but don't have a degree (and community college degrees are not respected at all.) more so now than ever college is necessary to land a job in most industries.

fortunately, there are programming bootcamps springing up that are much cheaper than college. funny how the free market is kind of fixing itself, at least for programming.

>piss your tuition money away on parties and beer
this is extra funny, btw - those funds are completely separate, and you'd be surprised about how national lampoon's depiction of college is not accurate at all

When we are handed a group project you must do 99% of it on your own. There is a handful of people that can do it. Most of the people are manipulative scum for it.
Some manage to get a hang of it after a few projects, and then they start humiliating and back-talking people that can't. And you listen to their gloating about their minimal work, that is in reality worth a quarter of hour.

All of you mid twenties and later going back to school, are you going to universities?

I'm going to community and pretty much everyone is around my age or older (23). and the ones younger than me are basically "adults" in that they have jobs and kids and shit.

moron

The hardest part is everyone assuming you're studying IT or SE, even fellow students seem to think that. I'm here for algorithms and math and automata and language design and all that fun stuff and it feels like nobody else is.

>scooping poo out of the loop by hand
>not even once

>CS
>Hard

pick one

>english
>hard
well, for you

>when I was 18 I thought those people were simple/lazy fucks who didn't go to college and eventually realized they couldn't support their families on minimum wage. I know a lot better now though.

are or were you conservative?

dealing with boring classes such as databases
dealing with bad exams organization and things like two exams the same day
make friends (even if it's not required)

Fuck off, cockgobbler. Physics is useless dogshit both in CS and SE.

Faggot.

First year was easy as shit...hope it gets harder

Also fuck group projects

test

You're expected to work within a group at your workplace, autismboi.

The academics was all easy
internships and all the job-market bullshit was the hard part

QUESTION!
Technology enthusiast from child. 23, starting school in August after getting clean from heroin. 2 years community, then transferring to the best school I can afford with my VESID and financial aid funding.

So - say I go to school, do well, become a competent programmer. Are there often bugs on big projects like the linux kernel or whatever that I can just go and try to fix? Or is it going to be difficult to find open source things to make significant contributions to for the sake of my reputation?

I live in a rural area and have no resources, any real internship is not possible. Our county's "technology" industry is Staples. I'm very anxious, I worry that I'm going to graduate, go to Long Island NY or Raleigh NC with my family and be completely unemployable.

If you are in CS then your mates are the autistic ones.

>undergrad
>hard

Most CS students around me are terrible. They know how to sell themselves as good programmers, but they don't know how to sell themselves as good people.

I'm taking computer graphics next semester, expecting the worst but I'm also excited because it's something I've been wanting to learn. Hardest so far was Operating Systems just because of the amount debugging, but my high exam scores carried me through my broken projects.

>good programmer
>can't sell myself as a programmer or a person

I fell for that meme that boomers still believe in about how if you just get good grades everything will be fine.

t. neet with a degree

My ComSci degree had a unit called Algorithms & Data Structures.

It required a lot of maths and complex algorithms.

Fail rate for it is around 50%.

Unsw?

>So - say I go to school, do well, become a competent programmer. Are there often bugs on big projects like the linux kernel or whatever that I can just go and try to fix?

As long as they need help and you can provide it, then I'm sure you can go for it. Why wouldn't you be able to do it?

>Or is it going to be difficult to find open source things to make significant contributions to for the sake of my reputation?

Although I'm unsure if you'll get a "reputation" you can easily find a handful of bugs to fix, or other features to add and bolster your resume.

>I live in a rural area and have no resources, any real internship is not possible.

This is unfortunate (I had the same issue). I got around it by making pet projects. Nothing major. Just basic apps or small software projects that me or my friends might want. Stuff like that. Was able to put it on a portfolio and go from there.

Except at a workplace you're more likely to all be on the same schedule. You'll also actually be held accountable unlike in school because your income presumably rest in their hands. Working in groups at school and in the workplace are definitely nothing alike besides the fact you have to deal with people.

wow OP.
how is summer? how is your family doing in new dehli and mumbai?

>is it going to be difficult to find open source things to make significant contributions to for the sake of my reputation?
Most FOSS projects are ecstatic to get high quality patches.

Programming IS algorithms and data structures. You create algorithms to manipulate data. If you cannot understand / memorize a few common algorithms/data structures you are not a programmer.

did u ever take systems or deal with os161? that shit was kinda hard depending on how much ur professor changed os161 from its original state

I'm unique as well

Newly grad here with 3.94 in final semester.

The hardest things were paying attention in class, procrastination, getting good sleep, and presenting. I spent a good 85% of lecture time browsing.

As for procrastination, every single semester I would put off assignments until the last couple of days, which would force me to work 20 hour days for 3-4 days to complete assignments. I dreamed in code on these days.

The procrastination made me very anxious about most tests. I bombed a lot of midterms. The stakes were even higher during finals, so I'd study all night before them.

I made school very stressful with bad time management and slacking. It reached a point where I couldn't enjoy my hobbies anymore. When I wasn't working, all I could do was sit there, though this ended up helping me, because I couldn't take just sitting there, so I just spent more time working.

I had many moments of weakness where I told myself I couldn't keep up with the grind and just gave up, but somehow kept going.

Presenting was difficult. I would spend days and hours preparing and memorizing a script, but no matter what, anxiety was always crushing. One time I took vicodin to get me through a particularly tough solo presentation.

I made college easier by taking the easiest classes I could take instead of classes that I "should" have taken, though I made sure to take database and security electives. I also arranged my schedule so that I only had my 5 classes on 2 days per week. This meant ugly 12 hour days of school, but the benefit of being able to sleep in as long as I wanted the next day was huge. I also stopped drinking, because I couldn't drink responsibly. Would go on week long binges, which set me way back.

Anyway, I know I sound like an idiot who couldn't cut it, but I regularly had top grades on finals, and I was the guy who did the most work on every group project. One time I even did the whole semester long project. Also never turned in a broken program.

Nothing. CS is a joke. I didn't show up for most of my classes and ended up with a 4.0.

Mine was finding the motivation to stop procrastinating and start dragging myself through boring-ass classes

>that guy that keeps using complex terms to discuss simple things

This. Part of the reason I did the most work in group projects was that I had so much respect for those guys who were both working and going to school. There was no way in hell that I could manage that, so I put the team on my back.

I couldn't get a BSCS in CC. I had to transfer to a four year school.

As a 2nd year student I fear this will happen to me. This last year was retardedly easy and my schedule began at 1 PM every day. I fear that in two months when I go back I won't be able to break the habbit of staying up late and procrastinating.

Probably everything non-CS
In my country the very first year of undergrad is the exact same weither you applied for math or CS. So you end up taking 240 hours worth of math, 240 hours worth of bullshit (math/CS or even science unrelated) courses and a mere 120 hours worth of actual CS.
I had to catch up with everyone else since I hadn't taken any real math class since middle school ("special" HS curriculum) but I managed.

Either you're lying, or you're a genius. Either way, I hate you.

Agreeing with OP. Specifically the people who went into it hoping they were going to make video games. Some faggot from my high school ended up going to DeVry for game design and ended up having to drop out and is transferring to my uni but none of his shit is transferrable, I'm mildly interested in how he'll fare. The classes get smaller and smaller each semester as people realize it's not that and it's not as easy as they expected, until there's only one three hour course available. You stick with mainly the same people, and their superiority complexes only get worse. I guess when you're a ginger virgin whose only merit is making an android app once, it's understandable.

Every professor I've had so far has been middle eastern, so the the first few weeks of the semester are spent trying to figure out their accent before you understand the material.

Other than that, I'm pleased with it. I don't go to a very renowned college, but the CS and Business programs are the best and most affordable in the area. It's just the other people in the class, and a toss-up on whether you get stuck with the shitty professors early on.

He's obviously lying.