Sir, please enter your encryption passphrase and login password

Sir, please enter your encryption passphrase and login password.

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bbc.com/news/technology-36159146
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/child-porn-suspect-jailed-for-7-months-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives/
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>"No"

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Is it a crime to say no?

actually if you look at the law, they are allowed to view your laptop. I couldn't believe it but it is in fact written into the law.

See

No

No, but they have every right to refuse entry to you or your laptop.

You guys would be screwed

youtube.com/watch?v=6y_5b1JsIs4

>Sure thing officer
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Oh my gosh I'm sorry, I was under stress and typed it wrong
>Drive is formatted because you not an idiot and made a script to format if the wrong PW is entered 5 times in a row
>Go about your day

TSA won't ask for it, if you're flying internationally then customs can.

>get jailed indefinitely for destruction of evidence

Password: orlandofaggots49

Sorry, I don't have a hard drive installed in order to maximize my carrying mass. I am planning to buy a new hard drive in my destination

No, but then they can say they are confiscating the device.

I think you have the right to not reveal your password in the States as not to incriminate yourself.

>Goes to a country with no money to support himself, or evidence someone at the destination country will pay for their stay

Furtrash are retarded, news at 11.

Plenty of people have been jailed for refusing to give up their passwords.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/forcing-suspects-to-reveal-phone-passwords-is-unconstitutional-court-says/

And every single one, except one case where the police already saw the evidence on the drive but the power died; was ruled unconstitutional.

bbc.com/news/technology-36159146

Just one of many.

Evidence of what? Where's the reasonable cause?

>be white
>never have this problem
feels gud

>Where's the reasonable cause?
>officer asks you to unlock device
>wipe hard drive
Gee I fucking wonder. If you think "ermagerd I was nervous and typed the wrong password enough times to wipe the device" will hold up then you're retarded or 12.

more info:
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/child-porn-suspect-jailed-for-7-months-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives/

>The authorities have called two witnesses...
>a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that cheese pizza was on the drives

Jailed for 7 months already, and possibly the rest of his life until he coughs up the passwords.

No evidence. He was raided for merely connecting to Freenet.

Fucking lol.
>Wipes computer
>Evidence?!?!?!

I'm sorry Officer, I can not do that. I have confidential files and it would be a crime to allow you to view them.

No you retard he downloaded CP from a freenet honeypot.

Of you being a dirty sand nigger terrorist

In a country that arrests, tries and convicts people for decades without a single fucking shred of evidence other than "he looks like he would have done it" why are faggots surprised when crossing the fucking border they ask you for your laptop and password to its contents?

>Sir, please enter your decryption passphrase and login password.

FTFY

Not everyone lives in the UK user.

If he was downloading from a honeypot, they would have the evidence needed to charge him with a crime, instead of continually holding him for contempt of court for refusing to give up his passwords.

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>THE LAND OF THE FREEKEKS

If you use encryption, you have something to hide. It's completely justified to arrest or detain or monitor everyone who uses encryption.

wait, is cuck being replaced again?

cuck

So when I go to the US I should just not bring my laptop?

You dumbass, only if you type it all uppercase is it filtered.

cuck
C&CK
KEK
KEKOLD

Only in caps

Cuck
KEK

that's the most fucking retarded answer and it's grossly misguided. Fuck you for being an idiot.

>You dumbass, only if you type it all uppercase is it filtered.
how the fuck am I meant to just know that without testing it out?

Why would you need encryption? And if you had nothing to hide, you would decrypt the drive for the police. Admit you, you want to hide your child porn or terrorism plans.

>Why would you need encryption?
I have sensitive information on my machine. NEETS however cannot comprehend this though.

Anytime you cross a border, they ask you if you have something to declare. Suppose the book 1984 is illegal wherever you are going, and you happen to have it in text files in your laptop.

It is no different than you walking through customs with the physical book, the only way for them to know is to actually look through your laptop. You can refuse of course, but refusal is like admitting you have it or other contraband in your laptop and you would be free to enter without the laptop.

So with that in mind, any time you motherfuckers cross a god damn border. Clean your laptops and leave nothing but the OS in it.

I'm sorry officer, but this computer contains proprietary material and trade secrets. I am not at liberty to release them.

>And if you had nothing to hide, you would decrypt the drive for the police
What if I have something to hide ?

Sure thing, officer.

How can they prove it got wiped though

I don't give a fuck because the only thing on my laptop is boring work stuff that isn't confidential to begin with.

No, I don't want anyone to see my MLP porn.

You only have something to hide if you're a terrorist or pedo. Your lolicon is child porn and you know it.

Have you even read some of the articles linked in this thread you Sup Forums faggot shitface?

have you even read any of the court documents on this case? he admitted to it, people saw it, and only now he is declining. this isnt some stupid MUH PRIVACY bullshit tools like you want to spout, this is a special case where it is 100% justified.

fucking idiot

Tip: TSA != international border patrol

Not complying with border patrol when crossing international boarders leads to 1) laptop/smartphones completely byte-copied and eventually confiscated 2) you being denied to enter the state 3) interpol being informed of the incident 4) if you attempted to enter the US as non-US citizen, you are now on a no-fly list.

>How can they prove it got wiped though
>asks for password to decrypt
>gets wiped
>suddenly doesn't ask for anything
Gee, I fucking wonder. Or
>now writing a bunch of fucking zeros to the drive, please wait 3 hours while the HDD activity LED goes solid

No its not thats literally a thought crime

>boarders
fuck this auto-correct

Feels pretty good. All the shitskins in this thread are scared their child porn and terrorists plans will be found.

>Sorry, I don't have a hard drive installed in order to maximize my carrying mass. I am planning to buy a new hard drive in my destination

this
no one will ever ever ask you to install your harddrive anywhere to see its contents

>encrypt your data
>upload it to a server
>securely wipe your drive
>install a quick distro
>fly
>download files
>decrypt

at least if you're flying out of the country

followed by promptly by going into non-hidden volume
or booting straight into gentoo on your other hdd

This is suspicious as fuck. Better carry a harmless drive with harmless, boring data.

>Gentoo
Red flag. Use Windows XP or Windows 7.

He admitted to nothing. The only person that 'saw it' was his sister. She claimed they looked at it together, but he says his sister was estranged and upset at him over something.

I could have arch installed with no real GUI and then what?

Hell what if I go into the airport with a non-bootable drive, IE a laptop with a HDD with NOTHING on it

>I could install a distro that will me single out for the schizo autist I am, and then what?
This is suspicious for TSA too. You have to prove that the laptop can boot.

Linux is suspicious, that's a hacker OS. Install windows 10 with steam and chrome on it.

>>I could install a distro that will me single out for the schizo autist I am, and then what?
having a linux machine is not reasonable suspicion to be on some terror watchlist
>you have to prove
no, I'm innocent until being proven guilty. They can turn on the laptop and the BIOS will scream "NO BOOTABLE MEDIA FOUND"

One of the guys that came to Lambdaconf last year did this and they confiscated his laptop. He still hasn't gotten it back and doubts he ever will.

lq2hardware?

>not having an unencrypted windows 7 installed just for that occasion

these neet faggots have no self awareness

why doesn't anyone sue the TSA for their unconstitutional shit

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>being an hacker is not reasonable suspicion
you're not talking with a lawyer, you're talking to an officer. The harder you go that route, the more you'll look like a dangerous extremist.
>innocent until proven guilty
again, you're not talking to a lawyer. A TSA agent can deny you access to your flight, __even for domestic flight__ if __he__ believes that your device doesn't boot. NO BOOTABLE MEDIA FOUND would be MIND=BLOWN

Because they'll shove their arm inside your anus.

Doe refused to provide investigators with the password or encryption codes to his computer or computer equipment, telling detectives that he “didn’t want [the detectives] looking” at his computer

He gives him his phone and iPad. They find a recovery key for the computer hidden on the phone. They unlock his computer.

From there they find his Freenet searches and see the files that he downloaded and match the hash values (unique identifiers) of the files to those that they had from other investigations. The files

"were described as follows: 4-and 6-year-old children, 10-and 13-year-old children, and 8-and 10-year-old children, all engaged in oral sex and being sexually abused by adults. The forensic exam of the MacPro computer confirmed that Doe successfully downloaded child pornography, and that he stored the downloaded child pornography on his external hard drives. The forensic exam of the Mac Pro computer also revealed that Doe used numerous message boards related to child pornography to communicate with others who had an interest in child pornography.

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Jeez I'd say "NO, SIR, CALM DOWN OR YOU'RE BEING SHOT"

Okay, so that's one case. But get this - while this is going on, the guy gets a new phone. Case#2 - His family knows he's into child porn and they have an intervention. He then admits to taking pictures of his young nieces including a 4 year-old. He shows the family a video he took while she was sleeping of where he moves her underwear and films her genital area. He also had about 15-25 upskirt shots of his 6 year-old niece. Police were called and a responding officer reviewed the images, as did the family members in attendance and the phone then locked up and forensic experts were unable to get inside the specially encrypted areas of the phone. Until, they get the court order saying open the drives and the phone. They don't ask for the password. They put him in a room and say - unlock them. He unlocks the three layers of decryption on the iPhone 6, confiscated over three months earlier and they find the videos and pics of the nieces, but he says he can't remember the passwords to the hard drives.

They file the contempt motion. At the hearing, he offers no evidence in his defense of not being able to remember and doesn't even show up in court to say "I can't remember", so they find for the state.

In fact, Doe had multiple layers of password protection on his devices, and he always entered his passcodes for all of his devices from memory. Doe never had any trouble remembering his passcodes (other than when compelled to do so by the federal court), never hesitated when entering the passcodes, and never failed to gain entry on his first attempt.

Pages 10-21

arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/govporn.pdf

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copied from a discussion involving people who actually do research

The guy in this case is the same as every single other privacyfag on Sup Forums. If anyone on Sup Forums is accused of storing CP on their computers, I already know you're guilty.

There really should be a landmark case for this

having an encrypted drive is not a valid reasonable clause to search

being forced to enter your password is against your 5th amendment rights

being forced to reveal your information is against the 4th.

How so?
They are just allowed to see if it Boots up.

Suing government agencies typically doesn't end well unless you're extremely rich or a public figure. Property seizure by police and government agencies is a massive problem in the US and has skyrocketed in the last 30 years.

>government agencies
an unconstitutional one at that

Do they ever check non-Muslims?

You don't have constitutional protection at a port of entry. You can't claim protection from the government when entering the country because it's the government's job to stretch your anus there.

>You don't have constitutional protection at a port of entry
port of entry to what? I'm just traveling between places in the US and the TSA are fucking up things between interstate travel.

I'm not even entering the country, I'm going from say JFK IAP to Orlando or Chicago

decriminalize CP and fire half the FBI, problem solved, can throw the guy in that case in jail since he went further than porn though

can I ask what are those files that aren't harmless?

I wasn't aware that there were updates on the case that provided this information. I was just going by what I read back when the story first broke.

:S

Apparently the shills here on Sup Forums think you're a hacker if you don't have windows 10 or you have encryption or just a password

They can't take your laptop for refusing to provide the password there. They can at customs.

>customs between states

(You)

>he's never been out of the States

You can literally have the police called on you in the USA if you are seen in a public space using a text based OS because "normal" people use a mouse only.

FYI it's illegal to deny entry into the US to a US citizen.

If you refused to give up the key for your laptop, you'd just probably lose your laptop.

you can call the police on anyone for any reason doesn't mean I'm committing a crime

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