You guys really need to lay off the "linux is perfect" and "windows 10 spyware" memes.
My roommate told me his plans yesterday of building a $800-1000 linux gaming desktop. He was planning on playing games through a Windows virtual machine with dual graphics cards. I had to go out of my way to convince him that it was a terrible idea and that if he really wanted linux, he should just setup dualboot. He didn't want to do it initially since he wanted a computer that he could quickly switch between gaming and development, but then I reminded him SSDs exist.
So let's hear other stories of people you know having stupid ideas about technology.
Pic Related: My internal feelings when he told me his build idea.
Kek virtual machine will bottleneck his preformance. Tell him to embrace the windows cuck
Kevin Stewart
It's more reasonable than buying an Xbox or PS4 gaming console. GNU/Linux has more games on Steam that run natively than both of those consoles have combined. Then thousands more not from Steam or ones that run through WINE
Alexander Jackson
tell him to do whatever he wants with his money while you shut the fuck up and mind your own god damned business
Zachary Turner
What is hardware passthrough
Isaac Morales
You're a bad friend, tell him to dual boot steamOS and Linux
Ryder Cook
just get a steambox
Leo Scott
Would be reasonable if instead of dual gpu he would use integrated graphics for the Linux host. But yea, dual video cards build is retarded.
Brandon Thomas
desu senpai you're the uninformed one here that would work just fine if your friend knows what he's doing some people are fine with dual boot and some aren't, i suppose he should know what he needs
Samuel Hall
not if he has a quadro for linux for the compute power and a geforce or radeon card for windows. or he could have a cheap card for either windows or linux if he wants to play games on both. it all comes down to how he's gonna use it and what's worth paying for or not to him
Henry Williams
I'll add that he can get a Windows 10 key for free, so it's not like he's saving $100.
He asked me for my advice and I gave it to him. It's his money, so I don't give a fuck how he uses it. I'm waiting on the 480 for my own machine.
i just dont know if you can do pci passtrough on an amd cpu.
Camden Smith
tbqh the only reason to dual boot windows is if you fit the following diagnostic criteria:
1. you're a gamer / manchild 2. you're also lazy (point two is possibly redundant) 3. you don't know what iommu is without using google 4. you couldn't set up gpu passthrough on your xen hypervisor 5. you shouldn't be posting on Sup Forums
if you really reboot your system more than once every six months you should go back to Sup Forums and stop pretending to be a linux user
Alexander Nelson
I reboot when it prompts me to do so after downloading some software upgrades.
Jayden Miller
We are actually pretty close to a point where it is easy to set up a virtualized Windows guest with GPU passtrough on Linux host and run games at 90%+ of bare metal performance.
At some point it will be just > sudo apt install virt-botnet10-gayming-env
Too bad Nvidia doesn't like people using Geforce GPUs from a virtualized environment. Although looking at the market I guess that it's good that the red team has some edge over the green team on some areas.
Connor Hill
WIntel at it's best right there.
Caleb Bailey
GPU passthrough works pretty well these days.
Dunno about using dual GPUs.
Jordan Green
I think it's generally recommended to use two graphics cards when you're using passthrough. You can use integrated graphics if you like, but it may not be powerful enough to do what you want. OP's friend most likely picked one good graphics card for gaming and one cheap one for the host OS.
Brody Ward
What about SLI?
James Edwards
You can now pair dedicated graphics directly through a PCI bridge with QEMU for gaming. You get 95% of the performance.
>Not running Loonix in a VM >Not running Bash in Win10
Asher Nelson
>if you really reboot your system more than once every six months I'd rather not get memory corruption on my non-ecc systems.
Xavier Campbell
He was right, though.
Adam Fisher
>gaming
why do you have a child for a roommate? OP are you a pedophile?
Jace Gray
Is there any way to only use the one GPU, i.e. have Linux use it and then give Windows total control of the display?
Nolan Gonzalez
You can reboot into Windows in 15 seconds. You get 100% of the performance.
Caleb Sullivan
No.
Brody Edwards
Well, if you have a Intel processor with integrated graphics you can pair your integrated GPU with it. I don't know about AMD APUs.
Grayson Sanders
You have to close all your running programs. You cannot use other programs while the game is running. You have to trust Windows with the bare metal of your machine. It's a tradeoff, but it's one I would be willing to make.
It's not as if the games I play are demanding anyway. I would not miss the 5%.
Ryder Wilson
Not everyone wants to have to shut off the OS they trust with their credentials to play games. They may also not want to give Windows direct access to the rest of their system outside of the GPU. Sometimes you want both running at once without running multiple computers.
I actually use linux in a practical stance due to my education and programming preference. I don't like Microsoft's forced updates or anything else with Windows 10. I simply just don't trust it.
Hunter Young
> Valuing 5% perf over isolating Botnet 10 in a sandbox.
Jeremiah Perry
/thread
Joseph Lopez
What could hypothetically happen if you don't run it in a sandbox?
Julian Davis
> give botnet access to personal files > give botnet access to encryption keys > give botnet access to sensors like microphone and webcam > give botnet access to computing habits outside gaming and photoshop > give botnet access to ring -1 > give botnet command over when it is time to update botnet and when it is time to run user processes
Maybe it doesn't happen but I'd rather take a 5% perf hit.
