Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?

Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?

Seriously
>use windows
everything works
>use osx
everything works
>use linux
nothing ever works, have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.

Not to mention all the best software is on both windows and osx.

But I think I get it, you are all fat neets that can waste time playing programmer with your distros, but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.

What's your excuse?

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My ThinkPad T420 came with a mega Lenovo botnet version of Windows 7, so I'm using Linux while I save up for a non-shit Windows 7 installation.

I have never even heard of a lab anywhere with a single windows install. Windows is for casual shit like facebook and gaming. Linux is productivity software.

Linux is fun ^_^

I've thrown it on laptops for old people since they ruin Windows, shits pretty easy if you aren't brain dead

>but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.

yes yes I'm sure RHEL is just a billion dollar corporation riding off of the backs of fat neets

I like how all you tards have conned onto the fact that osx is not mutually exclusive with a lot of what you'd want to do on linux servers so you can shoehorn in your windows propaganda and relegate any issues of windows being shit for server administration or various programming setups to >but muh osx, very clever, now go fuck off and kill another board

Fedoracore24

Are blank dvds that expensive where you love?

i use it because i'm a hobbyist, OP

I use Linux for work, mostly.

Windows doesn't have the tool set to be as efficient at software development.

Mac is just an over priced Facebook machine, can't effectively run Virtual Machines or Containers.

Literally never had an issue with my Debian install, on any of my devices. Never once have I had to actually looked up documentation, same goes for Ubuntu and Mint.

And for home, I do duel boot windows and Linux, because the lack of customization in Windows makes me claustrophobic but at the same time I need it for steam.

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>Linux is productivity software.
yeah...after you fix all the problems lol

Just activate it with the key on the sticker under your laptop. That's why it's there.

>use Windows
>everything works because it came with the machine
>use OSX
>everything works because it came with the machine
>use Linux
>everything works if it came with the machine

and even when it didn't, I've been able to install Xubuntu just fine on damn near everything, with the one issue being Broadcom wifi, haven't bothered with spending hours configuring shit to work, just the usual going about and installing whatever software I need
shit, most Linux distros have been much more user-friendly than just about any commercial Unix offering I've ever seen (well, there's OS X, which only properly works on Apple hardware, and you're in even less supported territory than most Linux distros if you install it elsewhere)

Superfish does not affect Thinkpads, and certainly not the T420, which just comes with Win7 Pro and some lenovo drivers. You can choose not to use those drivers if you're an idiot.

OP: Linux _is_ for hobbyists and the ultra paranoid. There's nothing at all wrong with using OSX or Windows.

Have you ever even been in a lab? Most PCs in the biochemistry lab I do my project in run on XP because of the legacy software used to run the machines.

Expect for the dual Xeon workstation running YASARA, which is running Debian (or (k)ubuntu?)

And my own personal anecdote is every workstation is windows. I think the samba server might run linux maybe but I don't know, the others are windows server and aix though.

>OP: Linux _is_ for hobbyists and the ultra paranoid.

or, you know, for the 60-80% of the front facing websites that use linux at some point or another along with all the associated services such as vps and dedi providers, pretty much anybody who uses cpanel, etc

>if you are not a hobbyist?
If you are cheap, don't want to pirate, or are tech illiterate and just want to go on facebook with out worrying about viruses and shit

Poo in the fucking loo Rajeesh.

haha meme.

OK... how many (or what percentage of) professionals use Linux on the desktop?
The generally accepted figure for all users is

Shit thread. If something doesn't work in Linux, then it's probably your fault and you're retarded.

>windows
>everything working
kek

>the UI of linux

You just have to ask yourself a simple question to know.

Are you a poor faggot masochist?

If so, then yes, there is a point to using it.

If not , nope, not unless you are getting paid to do it as part of your job. But you still would use a desktop OS at home primarily.

I mean can you imagine some of these faggots if they had a kid.
Kid:
"But dad, the pc at school uses Windows!"

Sup Forums Linux Dad:
"I don't care what those 'normies' at school are doing. You WILL NOT use that OS in THIS household as long as I am alive!"

>Kid plots to kill you in your sleep

>succeeds

end scene-

>in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx

If by 'real jobs' you mean jobs that are going to be replaced with the quickness, then yes. Obsolete jobs do now and will continue to use windows/osx, especially jobs that don't require even a modicum of secrecy.

it does tho.

autist

> use linux

just type "apt-get" + $package_name

you wish aspie.
there's a reason most jobs use either windows or osx.

I'm paid to use Linux. I run servers. It's rock solid and never goes down. Mac and Windows need to be rebooted every time they update which is like once every three days. Can you imagine having to wait several minutes for Google.com to load because it needed to reboot after an update? Every few days?

Is there even a point in using Windows if you are not a hobbyist?
>OSX
Convenient, secure package management to find 99% of software, with excellent security in place to prevent the 1% of software from damaging your system even if it tried to.
>Linux
Convenient, secure package management to find 99% of software, with excellent security in place to prevent the 1% of software from damaging your system even if it tried to.
>Windows
Can only hunt down software from sketchy sites and must give it administrator access or it can't even run

>Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?
absolutely not

Windows is a shameless botnet used by the technologically illiterate whose knee-jerk defense of their favorite OS is pointing out how more babbified OS X is and how OS X users are anemic rich vegans.

Apple software has been rapidly rotting with each update—see iTunes, FCPX, Numbers, the new inconsistent flat aesthetic for the sake of cutting costs on design (any fat mom can effortlessly design flat shit). It's all pitiful aluminum jewelry now.

You should run Linux because it's not OS X or Windows.

>nothing ever works, have to spend tons of hours reading documentation and looking for help just to make the system usable.
Don't install a meme distro.

>Not to mention all the best software is on both windows and osx.
What best software? Adobe? Media production shit? Make a Windows partition to run that.

What do you even use a computer for? Work? LibreOffice is about as shit as Microsoft Office, and less shit than Google Docs. You're not missing anything.

Linux is the cancer of computing
Only a fool would use it

Hmm... Really makes u think

Google uses Linux
NASA uses Linux
A ton of other agencies use Linux
Chances are your router uses Linux
Most of the websites you visit are hosted on Linux servers
Android is Linux

You use Linux. Get over it.

>OS X
>Excellent security
Not even a little bit.
In every pwn2own competition OS X is always the first to fall.

This is the worst post I have read in recent memory. There is no way you are above 15 years old.

ran into an issue today with one of my linux-baesd clients: Tracker consumes 100% CPU. Tracker, for the uninformed, is a file indexer akin to Windows' Indexing Service. any good sysadmin/user worth their salt will immediately disable Indexing Service after any fresh Windows install 'cause, really, who the fuck needs this bullshit?

Anyways...

At some point in the last several years Tracker became bundled with Gnome, and Fedora, Ubuntu, and even OpenSUSE users began to complain of 100% CPU utilization when their machines sat idle or, in some cases, when shit was trying to happen. The problem? Tracker's processes launched and tied up all available CPU resources.

There's also no good way to turn this shit off. There's a GUI that allows you to tailor the indexing, but nothing to actually stop it from launching in the first place. RH has a 4 year long bug report on Tracker, with numerous methods to disable it. None, however, are as simple as giving us the ability to stop it from ever launching.

Did I mention that uninstalling it also breaks/removes Brasero and Totem?

Anywho, I'm taking one of the workarounds from the RH bugzilla on it and applying it in the morning. I shouldn't have to do this, I should just be able to disable it or remove it.

Define "professionals"

i'm using linux because my good machine is being RMA'd and i only have a shitty old laptop with a broken internal sata port to use for the time being. i got a $60 ssd, a $20 usb-to-sata connector and installed lubuntu and so far everything literally just werks. browsing the web, watching online videos, and typing up word documents is fine and the laptop runs fast as fuck inspite of being old as dirt.

when i get my real machine back i'm planning on dual-booting bare debian and getting deeper into this. i also love how you can rice shit out pretty easy, and when you can't get something the way you want it with one set of programs, you can just remove them and try something else in little to no time at all.

quick question, any Sup Forumsentooman recommend a file manager with thumbnails in the file picker? is unity the only one or are there others?

Thunar + Tumbler

It's just an easier environment for programming.

thanks

Home desktop? Probably not.
Professionally? Probably, field depending.
These threads are just circlejerks.

nigga, you already own a license

Just download the ISO from Microsoft's website (you'll have to get them to send you a link, it isn't public anymore)

and install. Use the key from the sticker on the bottom of your laptop.

>OS X users are anemic rich vegans
the thread is saved

>Literally never had an issue
I used to believe this meme. This HAS to be absolute bullshit.

I used ubuntu for a while because I was curious and it seemed fun to learn a new operating system. I didn't do much on it: I installed a theme, java, google chrome and eclipse.

It literally made me unable to boot into either ubuntu or windows once, another time it booted and the wifi wasn't working, it has NO option to disable mouse accelaration and one time I launched it on a usb stick and some packages just started throwing errors, aparently it had one version but it thought it had a different version, i couldn't uninstall or update the packages.

I can't believe people who say they never have any problems on linux, I literally don't do anything that could cause problems but they still happen.

microsoft is increasingly locking down the OS. they want to make it impossible to torrent media and use it without DRM.
they've written very open legal clauses in the TOS saying what they can do with your personal data including key presses.
Win10 is a ticking time bomb.

Dolphin is objectively the best.

>I had issues therefore everyone had issues.
One time the Windows bootloader broke on my sister's laptop, does that mean that everyone has these issues? Of course not you goddamn retard.

hollywood tells me KDE users are psychopaths

> if you are not a hobbyist?
> What's your excuse?
Implying I need "excuses" to make money with it. Go to hell.

Freetard detected

I had a diferent problem almost every time I installed (a bunch of times) with only light use so I can't believe that someone can have zero problems. Plus no matter who you are you can't get arround the fact that some stugf that are super easy to change on windows (like mouse acceleration) have no option on linux. I had to have a script run on boot.

Linux is used in supercomputing, it's most often OS pick for server, you can program on it perfectly.
You need Windows/Mac only if you're graphic designer pretending to do something with your life.

I've legitimately had no problems, so it seems like a user issue. Plus, I've had different problems literally every time I've ever used Windows. Once again, does that mean that everyone has issues?
>Plus no matter who you are you can't get arround the fact that some stugf that are super easy to change on windows (like mouse acceleration) have no option on linux
Oh, you were just memeing. At least pick something more obscure next time, that way you'll catch more autists with your bait. You'll never catch anyone by calling out something that can easily be changed without any effort whatsoever.

>Is there any point in using linux if you are not a hobbyist?
if you just use it to browse net it works just fine out of the box depending on distro
some people do it because they have older machine and lightweight distro can breathe in new life into it

>But I think I get it, you are all fat neets that can waste time playing programmer with your distros, but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
not all jobs and even if they do how often do you really work from home?

ffs my little sister used ubuntu on old laptop for school
in this day and age you don't really need to configure anything if you pick distro for the job

I started using Linux distros due to my old copy of windows 8 that came with my shitty lappy running so shitty basic applications and web browsers would crash on me constantly.

That and it's just easier for me to interact and use my unis play servers for assignments and scripts with linux.

keep trying.
if you use linux you are pretty much a communist.

Really depends on the lab. Here (physics) you only have the choice between OS X and some Linux. If you use Windows anyway, you are basically on your own and good fucking luck with that. Most software that is used here is specific for the experiments we take care of, and usually they are developed with UNIX in mind for some very good reasons.

However, in other fields I heard of people mostly using idiot proof Windows software (i.e. chemistry, electrical engineering etc), but usually the reason for that is that the tools are not that specialized and the people working in those fields are not good with computers.

> Windows 7
Evertything works
> W8
sortof works but the UI is shit.
> W10
Fuck w10
>PS-CS2 buggy as hell. need to upgrayde
>Corel X6 Buggy as hell need to upgrayde
>Constant updates halting my work for hours
>Windows deletes some of my software without asking.
>Botnet
Compability issues and ads all over the place.

I went back to w7 on my graphics laptop and loonix on my workstation,.. stable as fuck. can fap to furry porn while updating my kernel

>be EE/CE double
>install ubuntu + cinnamon on ANUS lappy
>jest werks(tm)
>install MPLAB, MATLAB, LTSpice (works 100% perfect in wine), Quartus II, EagleCAD
>everything jest werks
>write all reports in libreoffice and use office 365 online to make sure everything is correct (almost always is)
>have sexy file system, terminal, GUI, programming environment (fuck windows.h)

if it wasn't so easy I wouldn't use it

if you can't hack it you should try not being a brainlet

Windows bullied me with their update shit until I went mad.
And AMD fucked my ass raw because Driver updates where annually fucking over my system.

Most Linux systems are easier to use than Windows nowadays in my opinion.

This. It's a joy to use when everything does what i've set it to do as well.

I don't know why people bother to post these threads anymore. Everything that could be said about this has already been said.

And still people fall for this, everytime.

I actually thought that was a well articulated response.

Please tell me more about GNU and how it works. It seems like so much fun..

>I have never even heard of a lab anywhere with a single windows install. Windows is for casual shit like facebook and gaming. Linux is productivity software.

If that's NASA, they replaced all their Windows systems with Debian IIRC.

training.linuxfoundation.org/why-our-linux-training/training-reviews/linux-foundation-training-prepares-the-international-space-station-for-linux-migration

>We migrated key functions from Windows to Linux because we needed an operating system that was stable and reliable – one that would give us in-house control. So if we needed to patch, adjust or adapt, we could.

For normies who just use computers as facebook and solitaire machines it's perfect
Installed it for my dad because windows was running like shit ^_^

Too many compromises have to be made with using Linux as a desktop OS.
I only use it for work, and I try to use it in a VM when possible.

>^_^
kys

lmao kill yourself wincuck

isn't NTFS filesystem performance simply terrible?
du -a / | wc -l returns 138480 "files" in less than a second, while enumerating a relatively small folder with 16k files in explorer takes about a second.

I use opensuse for my laptop. As long as you're only doing normie tier shit its no worries

>>use windows
>everything works
>>use osx
>everything works
>>use linux
>nothing ever works
where did you get this hundred-year-old copypaste text from?

>gf forgets local account password on win8.1 laptop
>thinking I'll just use lubuntu live usb and reset password
>windows ntfs partition cannot be mounted because you might fuck up the file that handles hibernation.
>look online for a work around
>there is none
Isnt this shit supposed to be neckbeard tier? Why cant I choose to fuck up my hibernation file?

>but remember in the real world, real jobs require windows and osx.
what about IT? software developers?
i guess those aren't "real jobs" to you
but you wouldn't even know what a "real job" is since you push around the "MUH CREATIVE CLOWD!!!" excuse

This.

Everything is bound to fail eventually.

...

I have a hard time understanding why you care what os I use.

But on a side not
>Everything on osx just werks
My fucking sides.

Osx employs patented click and wait technology so you get lots of time to
Talk to girls
Get a hipster tattoo
Suck down a hipster beverage
Walk to a Starbucks
Ride your fixie
Walk your dog

And all the while the spinning fucking beach ball is there to remind you that, osx isn't slow, this is your fault user.

Fuck osx.

Yeah they are
Also anyone who does full disk encryption is a pedophile

Why do you believe this. I actually sit in strong opposition to cp, and I use full disk encryption on ALL my drives.
That's right
Cell phone, flash drives, backups, laptops,desktop. All of em.
You gotta protect your privacy dumbass.
>I hang out in a place where people SHOULD be intelligent enough to understand that we don't live in a world with governments that want to protect us
>snowden.jpg
>These Fuckers will go outside of the law to fuck anyone who sits on the opposition
>Herr derr using technology to protect your freedom makes you a disgusting pedophile meme
Fucking idiot

There's literally a checkbox on windows and nothing on ubuntu. Stop dismissing it as a meme.

Ans yes, everyone has issues on windows lol, are you meming?

>wincucks actually believe this

Kek, why is Sup Forums so easily baited

>windows
>always works
get the fuck out ,you cassual

- it's fun
- things work
- it's fun
- command line is a meme
- use less resource and gain performance in whatever you were using (mpv running "impossible" videos with relative ease)
- you're trolling is shit btw

>Install Ubuntu on my mom's laptop
>that shit tells me the 15.10 update is available
>sure, why not?
>the shit hangs on boot after install
>turns out 15.10 isn't compatible with AMD cards for some reason


People still think this is acceptable.

>things work
Terrible b8

Works on my machine.png

>the bait meme

I love that guy

Let's see...

I worked for a DoD contractor for a number of years. Once we got to a point where full encryption didn't present a serious impact to performance it was rolled out to every laptop that left the building.

I worked for one of the largest financial institutions in the world. Full disk encryption was standard on all laptops.

I worked for one of the largest hotel/casino chains in the world. Again, full disk encryption was standard for our laptops (I'm not 100% certain this was the case for the rest of the company, but the network security team I was a part of had full encryption).

My last position was with one of the largest gaming companies in the world. My group secured a network that generated $150M a year in revenue for the company, all of our laptops were fully encrypted.

I'm currently a consultant with 8 large clients. I work on their networks from VM that are all encrypted and my laptop and desktop that I use to manage everything are all encrypted.

Basically, fuck you and your theory.

>nothing on ubuntu
>no option on linux
>Nothing exists but Ubuntu
Good to know.
And you have the arrogance to say that I'm the one who's memeing?