What ever happened to Valve saving Linux?

What ever happened to Valve saving Linux?

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>gaymer manchildren are the saviours of linux

HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA

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It's been going pretty well, both UE4 and Unity can target Linux as a platform and there are plans to port both editors to it.

In the end it's just a matter of time, it's easier to optimize software on Linux than on Windows, thus the gap on performance between both systems is closing down, eventually Linux will surpass it and that day you will see the Linux adoption skyrocket.

As it turns out, Linux doesn't want to be saved.

Save Linux from what? Not dominating a dying market?

theres no motivation to develop games for linux because money (see drivers)

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nginx, I'm pretty sure but basically this

I only play CS and audiosurf and they are both on GNU/Linux, feelsgoodman

Saved
This
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Because Microsoft is now actively moving to dominate the gaming industry at this point, Valve and other developers are trying to find a way to have a more free base.

Valve isn't saving gbu/linux and it wasn't ever was. It's been trying to save itself.

How is a gaming company supposed to save us from Red Hat?

If there's no motivation to develop games for Linux then why do 25% of games on steam run natively (no WINE) on Linux?

>proprietards thinking valve's botnet was a good thing
If you like games so much why aren't you using windows?

Because 90% freedom with 10% botnet is still better than 90% botnet with 10% spyware. What kind of fucking retarded question is that?

This is a fake comic. The original has to deal with 14 protocols, and then the 15th being there to save it. Nice shitpost senpai.

That 10% botnet will only invite more of itself in, pretty soon you'll find only the base system being free.

>volvo
>creators of SteaDRM and baby's first shooter
>saving linux

It's called a photoshop. Or as it's called in slang, a Shop.
Maybe you'd have heard of it if you used an OS that actually supported software.

>pretty soon you'll find only the base system being free.
I'm not using SteamOS, I'm just running Steam on a regular linux distro.

The people that need to use entire preconfigured distro because they can't spend 5 seconds using a package manager to install a program are fucking retarded.

The reality is we have hundreds of distros that are nothing more than a theme on top of an ancient release of ubuntu.

Come on family I run Windows and Linux.

Kill debian

who are you quoting summerfag

Well, there's plenty of games for Linux on Steam now, so I'd say it's gone pretty smoothly. Not as many as Windows, obviously, but it's enough to comfortably game on Linux.

But this is exactly the kind of people that will flock over to linux once an exclusive game is made for their console. Are you happy to share your OS with windows mouth breathers?

So switch to Trisquel then you faggot. Nobody is forcing you to use the options that make a Linux experience better.

>Requires OS to run photoshop
>Never uses photoshop
Spotted the faggot

What the hell is up with you people thinking Linux needs saving? Have you been living under a rock?

Soon, just wait for HL3

"Your shit has stopped working, open task manager to kill process you little cunt"

Here come the downvotes!

>Trisquel
Parabola
>make a Linux experience better
How is emulating the flaws of windows better? Oh, I forgot you only care about your gaems.

Nobody wanted to put in the effort to port their shit to a platform with 0.04% market share.

I'ma human bean, not a market. Stop calling me market, faggot.

I care about making the district useful. For example, I make heavy use of Photoshop. Gimp and Krita are not viable substitutes. And that's not from a lack of me using them, since I gave GIMP months of full time use to adjust and everything still takes much longer or is more difficult.

There is also no viable CAD software on Linux. It just doesn't exist.

Office software is slowly shoring up to Microsoft Office, but if you've got an office job you'll probably encounter docx occasionally. Converting is not an option.

If you need any of those things you need to use Windows or OSX, which is like the nuclear option. You shouldn't have to switch OSes to get software functionality. There are tons of reasons to port proprietary software to Linux, and they're mostly to make up for the gaps where FOSS has failed.

>w-we hate windows!

>microsoft literally on the verge of destroying Sony in the console game and taking over all of PC because of the console exclusives and PC games all in one and exclusive rights to DX12 and other support

>meanwhile the only relevant linux versions of steam games are the valve games themselves

99% of the other games dont even have demos to try and dont even run natively on linux

>bunch of DLC and other content not universally avalible on the linux version

No, and I've fully prepared to switch to BSD once the Linux apocalypse happens and every mouthbreathing retard is using it

Sony consoles still have the best RPGs and weeb games. Microsoft can't compete on that front.

Because indie games are made using crossplatform game development frameworks, there's no programming involved.

>gaming doesn't matter

Windows is so prevalent... why?

Thanks GabeN.

>>microsoft literally on the verge of destroying Sony in the console game

Are we on the same planet? The Xbox One has been nothing but a string of failures and Microsoft has all but given up by porting all their games to the Windows Store.

They've also cucked their own console by announcing its proto-successor 1 and a half years early. Who the fuck's going to buy an Xbox One now that they've announced a much stronger model?

It's madness.

SteamOS plus Linux. Oh God, my sides.

Call me when rocket league and overwatch run on Linux
Until then,
>linux
>gaming

you can play all xbox games on windows 10 you fucking idiot

which was the point of the comment

No you can't, go look at the Windows Store in the comments. People buy those games and they don't even work.

you need a real gaming machine,

also the feature is still in beta, im sure once the full windows 10 update comes out in August it'll fix it

It's a monopoly that utilizes anti-competitive behaviors. Then everyone had to stick with it for backwards compatibility.

It is now slowly dying as people move away from desktops, where they rooted their evil dominance in the 90s

...

RMS has already said that Steam is a good thing.
:3
>once the full windows 10 update comes out in August it'll fix it
You are fucking dreaming. Microsoft will just throw more Indians at it and it will get even worse.

>drm monopoly
>good thing
Are there even free as in freedom games on steam?

You're retarded.
gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.html

Majority of my games on Steam are DRM free.

lol? Steam is the DRM

He asked for libre games, faggot.
Stop acting retarded.

Wait nextgen. Vulcan is going to be big, we know it now and DX12 is going to fight with MS money.
Boxes at or around TV are going to be the next PCs, they are the consoles, we just needed an unified OS and graphics APIs.

it turned out that linux was still an OS for real work and hobbyists that ascended past video games before doom 2 came out, and therefore had nothing to offer over normie recreational systems like windows and OS X

it's not the games, it's the software market that comes along with an OS that's popular with gamers. cheap and shitty drawing programs for making shitty WoW porn, godawful insecure proprietary messengers that look leet in forum desktop threads, really good webcam support for attention whoring with your "friends", excellent drivers for even the shittiest walmart laptops, drivers at all for recent gamer-oriented hardware so they can brag about their ultra max settings, being windows so the odd nip doujin meme game tumblreddit's been talking about will run, etc.

Steam isn't DRM though.

>Steam is a digital distribution platform developed by Valve Corporation offering digital rights management (DRM), multiplayer gaming and social networking services.

>copy-pasting from wiki
>a wiki that can be edited by anyone
>literally no source given in the wiki

Steam does provide DRM capability in the development kits, but Steam itself isn't DRM. The game developers have to build it into their game.

Steam manages digital rights. It's DRM, even if it's not as malicious as the DRM you're used to.

No, they provide an API that can be used to authenticate ownership, the DRM is actually built into the game.

I don't care about semantic distinctions. I legally bought a game via Steam and the DRM is preventing me from playing it on another computer (one where I do not wish to install Steam).

That makes it DRM, or Digital Restrictions Management, in my books: Technology that exists solely to prevent paying customers from using it.

uninstall Steam and boot up the games you "own"

Yeah, in other words they provide DRM. It's optional DRM. But it's almost always used. And if you remove Steam your games will cease to work.

Thats actually not true, I'll install a game and show you in a minute.

I don't doubt that it may work
steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

The point is that functionally speaking, any game that includes a simple identity check against steam will cease to work. In that case, Steam is acting as DRM. Since Wed both probably agree that in the simplest case

If (!auth) die;

Is not functionally complete enough to be called DRM. Which means it's counterpart, Steam, clearly is.

Linux and any GPL software is doomed forever.

BSD or nuffin

Its not DRM in steam if the game requires you to authenticate to be run, its DRM in the game.

You are just stuck on calling Steam DRM when it isn't.

Not him but I really don't care about arguing semantics.

Look, I have two options:

1. Buy game on steam, get DRM and lock-out
2. Buy game on gog, get to play it forever

>he doesn't see the subtleties of the implications
Lurk moar, newfig

Right, it's not DRM in steam. Steam Is the DRM. With a basic authentication check it can give you different access. Or it could distribute a different copy of the game to you. And it will be required to be running in the background.

There is a difference between something is DRM and something has DRM. A game has DRM. That DRM is steam

No, the game is DRM, the actual program that prevents the game from running is always in the games executable, all Steam does is launch the game and provide the Steam API.

The developer chose to include DRM in the Steam version, its not up to Steam.

Right. A developer chooses to use Denuvo. Denuvo provides the DRM. It's not up to Denuvo. The same way a developer can choose to use Steam DRM.

>No, the game is DRM,
You're a fucking idiot. The game is a game. That game calls out to various things.

For example, it calls out to the linux kernel to access hardware or networking. It calls out to a graphics library to accelerate graphics. And it calls out to steam for DRM.

Steam *is* the mechanism that it uses to provide DRM. Some games use Denuvo, others use Ubisoft's DRM. Many games use Steam.

>263 gaymes
well arent you the little gaymurr

There is no DRM in Steam, if there was it would make the checks before it launched the game.

That's like saying there's no DRM in Denuvo because the game needs to bootstrap it first.

Remember when Witcher 3 was supposed to get a Linux release?

>This is a fake comic

I'm looking at it with my eyes. It must be real. The idea it portrays wasn't implanted in my mind via telepathy.

look up steam CEG and steamworks

steampowered.com/steamworks/publishingservices.php

You know, tripfags, while being plain cancer, usually try to make sane posts because they think people care. So why are you telling people false informations, faggot?

Srsly, I'm so done with you. You're shitting up Sup Forums with literal bullshit since fucking years.

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOUR PLACE IS REDDIT

I don't think there is a linux version of gimpworks.

That's like saying there's no DRM in SecuROM because it didn't make a check to prevent you from putting the CD in your CD-ROM drive

>if there was it would make the checks before it launched the game.
But it does. You can only install and launch games in your purchased library.

It's still technically DRM because the executable requires one and only that one user to log onto steam to run the game... I think..

But not EVERY title has DRM on steam.

Some you can buy on steam, download it, and never touch steam again.

So you can take the steam game, move it to another computer, and play it, without ever opening steam!?

If Rocket League finally came to fucking linux, I could actually use it as my main desktop OS.

As long as the game doesn't have DRM yes, you can.

youtube.com/watch?v=Iav9c6L-bTw

Fuck Wine. I tried to get it working, but then I knew I was on the path to the age old lunix tradition of searching through 100 fragmented sources to fix something that's broken. I'd rather just use Windows.

He gets it set up in 5 minutes.

Are you that fucking retarded? What, did you fall for the arch meme or something?

For many games it is.
Just look how many games require a steam account to play and use.

>overwatch
trash

Is this statement true?

Every game that is available on both gog.com and steam is DRM-free on steam

I use windows to run heavy finite enrolment modelling software.

And office


Now fuk off

The fact that you can only install and update through their proprietary client is drm in itself.

they've spearheaded vulkan and it'll be great. They got a lot of big players on their side and things are going to change. All the major game engines already have support for linux.

I think they've achieved plenty as it is. For gamers, a lot more than canonical etc combined so far. Most of the works have been done in the background though so it's easy to miss if you're not following it closely.

Just because a game uses vulkan doesn't mean it is compatible with linux or mac