>As you know, we continuously tune our GPUs in order to maximize their performance within their given power envelopes and the speed of the memory interface, which in this case is an unprecedented 8 Gbps for GDDR5. Recently, we identified select scenarios where the tuning of some RX 480 boards was not optimal. Fortunately, we can adjust the GPU’s tuning via software in order to resolve this issue. We are already testing a driver that implements a fix, and we will provide an update to the community on our progress on Tuesday (July 5, 2016).
>undervolt >underclock Enjoy your even slower poo in loo
Alexander Perez
it's going to need a hardware fix, and AMD should recall the card, and replace motherboards, for users who've had boards damaged by the card.
as the longer it goes the harder it will be to do anything.
Brody Bennett
>all those amd faggots beta testing for amd Will these faggots ever learn? u never ever buy the reference design
Adrian Gutierrez
nvidia shills
Jayden Moore
House fires
Zachary Adams
>"""""tuning"""""
Jacob Cooper
>wait until reviews are in >lower performance with driver to make sure people don't fry their mobo's AMD is just as bad as Nvidia
Anthony Parker
better being nvidia shill, then amd cuck taking it in the ass are you enjoy the crispy smell of your pcie slot?
Isaac White
>this >amd will underclock and undervolt there cards. >There is nothing else they can do. >This might have been the reason they actually inluded voltage regulation in the actual drivers. >Where were you when AMD cucked 1000's of loyal cucks?
Ryder Jones
Who are you quoting, retard?
Benjamin Smith
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Jordan Kelly
How many times have i already wrote this but il have to write it again:
BAIT AND FUCKING SWITCH
Cameron Green
see
Julian Phillips
>being a newfag
Cameron Morgan
wut
Cooper Turner
>AMD testing driver >nvidia shill
You are worst than nvidiot. Get over it, Polaris is a big fail.
Jackson Powell
>buying mid/mid-high performance GPUs >using trash tier motherboard that can't handle a little bit of overvoltage >"b-b-but Sup Forums said I shouldn't worry about fight end mommy boards bc they're unnecessary :^("
Bentley Hughes
>be a poorfag >buy a card FOR poorfags >impying poorfags use +$600 momboard
Jaxon Price
It's not overvoltage. It's overcurrent. If it was overvoltage it wouldn't be caused by the graphics card.
Anthony Harris
can modern games even use 2 cpus? they have trouble using all the cores on single cpu..
Bentley Jones
>using trash tier motherboard that can't handle a little bit of overvoltage
Are you stupid? You think people use high end motherboard for a $199 card?
Jayden Gomez
It's overkill for only gamers, you will get like 5fps. It's more like for render, compilation ect.
>"Drawing too much over the PCIe bus is totally going to blow boards!!1" >People show the 750 Ti and 960 doing the same thing, except rather than just an average overdraw, there's also peaks up to 250W but they still aren't blowing boards under normal use >"Hey, we're now going to ignore and the fact that bad OCs also blow board by using an example of someone badly overclocking a 480 and blowing his motherboard as a result" I see summer is in full swing again...
Elijah Baker
Anything is a bad overclock when you go above 3% and suddenly you're drawing 100w from the pci-e
Samuel Harris
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Tyler Green
>People show the 750 Ti and 960 doing the same thing
What?
Juan Walker
>drawing >microsecond power spikes the same as sustained over the rating power draw >Those cards literally draw less power on average >Thinking it's power spikes that destroy hardware not heat
FUCKING 6-9A OF CURRENT RUNNING THROUGH YOUR SLOT IS GOING TO MELT IT NOT MICROFUCKINGSECOND VOLTAGE SPIKES
Colton James
Citation pls?
Blake Edwards
>drawing too much Like OP says, the correct term for this is OVERCURRENT. Here is how you calculate power. Voltage multiplied by the Current gives you the wattage.
Voltage spikes are common because not all the power you get is clean.
The problem is when your card is drawing 6-9A over the 5.5A average. Current is what destroys hardware. Voltage spikes are literally nothing compared to the heat that will be generated by the current running through the slot. You can harp on and on about how there are voltage spikes in Nvidia cards. The issue is still and always has been overcurrent.
We're talking about someone who forced his card to 1350 MHz, which is more than 7% over the standard boost clock and 21% over the base clock. May not be something you'd expect to get out of a high end CPU with a good cooler, but we're talking about a reference card here.
>Implying it matters when the Strix was nether fixed or recalled, but still didn't blow any boards under normal circumstances Even if the problem is limited to the Strix model, it proves is that you can draw too much on the PCIe bus and still not blow boards because of something called tolerances.
Sorry to break this to you summerfags, but you didn't get your "gotcha"
William Foster
> And the power consumption under typical gaming loads didn't show anywhere near the factor of 2.8x improvement in efficiency AMD has been claiming.
Why are they lying? AMD never claimed 2.8x power efficiency for the 480. Pic related.
Hunter Jackson
Asus is Nvidia?
Easton Butler
haha, wtf. Kid, quit being a faggot, I know that is likely impossible for you, but really, try.
>they are highlighting truths >not a game was mentioned >AMD is marketed for poor children, so they can play games.. >You are a poor faggot and while one day you can change the poor status perhaps, the faggot status you will carry to the grave with you.
Easton Evans
>Non-reference that consistently drew too much, but still didn't blow any boards boards Sorry to break this to you, but it being a reference board or not is irrelevant. If it didn't blow boards, which it didn't, then nether will the reference 480 before they lower the voltages (which third parties have successfully done without affecting performance)
The microsecond spikes are to 225W and beyond, it however consistently draws over 75W
Bentley Hernandez
>RX 480 will get gimped before Nvidia will start to gimp GTX 9XX
Bentley Brown
All this shitposting aside, would it still be reasonable to upgrade from R9 390 8GB to R9 480 8GB AFTERMARKET? Like pick up an MSi or Sapphire when this shit gets worked out?
Charles Flores
Asus makes graphics cards and with the Strix 960 they accidentally proved that you can draw more than the PCIe spec allows and still not break motherboards.
Owen Thompson
>would it still be reasonable to upgrade from are you stupid?? the 390 costs more than 480 for a reason.
Camden Morris
Why?????????????? Your 390 is fatser...
Andrew Ortiz
See >Other card had an even worse problem with spikes going as high as 250W over PCIe >Still didn't blow boards Stop trying to act like the RX 480 is going to blow boards in default configuration. If the Strix 960 didn't blow boards, nether is the RX 480.
Christopher Price
my board costed 120 jewro mate.. I'm not gonna risk it family.
Anthony Ramirez
read this...
Thomas Price
It won't blow up a motherboard but it will do damage. It's the heat generated from being constantly over the 75w limit which will do some serious damage. It can fry circuitry like the on board sound before the failsafe kicks and the motherboard shuts itself off.
Jace Reyes
continuously drawing over the spec is what causes problems you idiot, not spikes
Lincoln Davis
>buy GTX970 performance 2 years after the 970 >Now you cant even reach 970 performance due to AMD gimping the card so it wont fry your mobo
Another Massive Dissappointment
Wyatt Miller
more accurately it's the heat generated by the constant draw over the spec. The spikes are caused by voltage spikes which are normal as fuck. The constant power draw is caused by the current. The current is what produces most of the heat as it runs through the slot and weakens the solder/fries other components nearby because the current is more than the thing can handle. It's like plugging 5 toasters into one wall socket. Your wiring will catch fire but your socket should remain undamaged until the flames get it.
Zachary Brown
CUSTOMERS CHOICE
Isaiah Rodriguez
wut?
Angel Sanchez
>>>/neo_g/
Dylan Cook
>9000h of paint
Not bad
Anthony Johnson
The card is actually so fucking ugly in general and whoever thought up this car crash design needs to be thrown off a cliff.
Luis Ross
>he has that picture in his device
Jacob Harris
the guy who put a 6-pin on it should jump first family
Connor Perez
>that card >ugly back to Sup Forums with your edgy founders edition eyesore
Wyatt Cooper
Not him but the 480 look so cheap
Lucas Rogers
you have an incredibly poor eye for design, i would recommend you stay away from that career path.
Bentley Brown
Blind people need to leave.
Isaiah Gutierrez
can you children who have an interest in these dank gamer designs go back to Sup Forums
Luis Johnson
The 480 is ugly...It look like nothing
John Martinez
>thinks a black rectangle looks better than a similarly basic but more out of the box design which is satisfying for the eyes
Carter Davis
minimalism at its finest.
let me guess you like the cancer that was web2.0 skeuomorphism like pic related and thought windows xp through 7 actually looked visually appealing? fuck outta here.
Gavin Sanders
>sent from my edgy razer keyboard
Aaron Turner
>AutisticMotherboardDestroyers couldn't contain their autism. >Muh OC 480 will be able to reach 980 Ti performance >Meanwhile in reality AMD has to underclock it to don't fry poorfag PCI-E slots.
I fell for AMD meme once and thank god I remembered that lesson.
Christian Wright
>listen Sup Forums and not your common sense
Benjamin Brown
Amd releases a card with shitty ppwer management >Releases driver to fix it Nvidea releases a faulty card with 3.5 gb of ram >Its a feature
Angel Anderson
>fix it *gimp the card
Mason Rodriguez
at least the gtx 1060 launches next week, and its faster than a 480
Levi Martin
> I know nothing about electronics Mobos are made for spikes. Spikes in electronics mean NOTHING. The power specification is for average/constant draw it's not built for that which is why plenty of people are having problems with it. Seriously don't talk about electronics if you don't understand them.
Angel Morgan
>fix it Yes so now it will only be 20% under the performance of a 970 instead of only 10
Brandon Hall
And then nvidia will stop releasing useful drivers for it after 5 months. And then, the RX 480 will slowly get more and more optimized, and 2 years after its release, it will be 20%+ faster than the 1060.
Blake Thompson
>10%
Carson Nelson
>5 shitty dx12 shovelware games included wew lad.
Hudson Sanders
And by then nobody will care as there will be new cards out, and the cycle of nvidia always being faster will continue.
Michael Jones
>cuckvidia damage control i r8 3.5/4
Asher Cooper
>Current is what destroys hardware
It can be but voltage can too. Too much voltage will blow MOSFET gates apart and permanently damage them. Considering GPUs are full of 14nm FETs you probably do not want to exceed their voltage rating.
Also, power is not as straightforward as P = VI. In reality there are all sorts of impedances that complicate power draw and while that only holds true for AC you have to figure there are square wave oscillators generating clock signals and other digital logic signals. This is either AC or pulsed DC and calculating power by P = VI because of phase shift introduced by capacitors and inductors which ideally dissipate no power.
1. Every single review site praises the RX480 for best price/performance card on the market 2. Few review sites point out that the Rx480 draws more than standardized through the pci-e slot. 3. Nvidiots still butthurt about their 3.5gb cripple card try to force a powergate meme 4. Despite what nvidiots say nothing happens. Not a single mobo explodes 5. AMD releases a patch which undervolts the card slightly so the RX480 squeezes through the 75watt pcie spec 6. All is well. Nvidiots on suicide watch because there is no software patch to fix their 970 christopher reeves edition
MAXIMUS KEKKUS. NVIDIOTS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.
Blake Campbell
>too much voltage Yeah the chances of that happening are slim to none.
>Not as simple as P= VI
>PCI-E slot specifications are 75 w >12 v x 5.5A = 66w >3.3v x 3A = 10w
>= 76 w >not as simple as that lol no
Hunter Harris
this needs to be switched now, it's AMD blowing up and nvidia BSODing
No you can't reliably calculate card power draw by P = VI because it has so many capacitive and inductive elements on it which have a reactance dependent on frequency. You have oscillators outputting different frequencies to different parts of the circuit, the duty cycle might be varying depending on the task being performed, etc. This will all affect total power consumption.
Listen if you're confused look up apparent power and reactive power.
