The only thing Arch provides that no other distro does is the AUR. The wiki is quite extensive as well. So far Arch is pretty much the only distro I would use. >inb4 AUR a shit No it isn't. It works, read the pkgbuild and don't just keep pressing y-n-n-y in your AUR helper.
However there are people out there who want a very stable working environment. They just want security patches, not new packages.
What are the options? FYI I prefer learning things through Wiki.
>Debian Debian stable live ISO crashes on my new laptop (2016) every time I boot. Should I install from the minimal?
>*buntu LTS Been using it. Not a fan of apt, this is why I want to use something other than Debian
>Slackware >FreeBSD I like systemd
>Gentoo Timesink. Although I might try Funtoo/Calculate Linux
>Crux >Sourcemage >Void >OpenSUSE If only it had a good wiki.
>CentOS Now I really would LOVE to use this exclusively. How is the Wiki?
Go with Debian testing minimal. If you don't like apt, go with CentOS or OpenSUSE
Jordan Johnson
I'm in the same boat as you, OP. I'm currently on Arch, just because all other distros suck ass. I like the AUR, but I'd like a more stable system and the ability to configure everything to my liking. I hate APT too, it's too fucking slow and breaks dependencies all the time unless you're on Debian stable.
Chase Scott
Did you use CentOS. I am very fascinated with it but can't seem to find a proper wiki page.
Elijah Fisher
What's wrong with apt?
CentOS is okay if you like building everything yourself.
William Young
I never used personally but I've heard generally good reviews. Here's the wiki: wiki.centos.org/
Ethan Smith
What were you doing to get APT to break dependencies?
Jose Flores
Upgrading Debian testing regularly.
Julian Hill
literally spams my terminal if I do anything with it
Isaac Rodriguez
So then it isn't apt itself, just the new packages? I've never had apt itself break anything on Debian or Ubuntu. And whenever you have extra packages you no longer need, it lets you know you can autoremove them.
Cooper Mitchell
Other than accidentally purging the wrong packages of course, but that was an error on my part, apt just did what it was supposed to.
David Brown
Why is that a bad thing? And you can use -qq to make it less verbose.
Levi Hughes
Gentoo/funtoo both just werk.
Ryan Evans
Obviously you haven't seen how pacman installs things
Nolan Thomas
Debian Stable here. From backports I got my fglrx And from wine repo i got wine staging. It just werks on my kde. Safe and stable as fuck. BROTIP: Install from netinstall.
This is quite nice compared to apt vomiting shit on the terminal
Sebastian Fisher
So you complain about apt giving you information about the installation of a package? I mean, if you don't want to make sure everything went right, then just use -qq. No more vomiting in the terminal, as you'd put it.
Adrian Hernandez
Why does it matter that it spams the terminal? It doesn't affect anything. Pacman and apt ultimately do the same thing, install a package and it's dependencies, and that's all they have to do.
Tyler Taylor
Also, you won't be doing work in a terminal while you're installing something anyway, so why does it matter about the output it gives you?
Chase Fisher
>information about the installation of a package I don't really need things like Reading database Hit abc from the def server Processing triggers etc. pacman installs just looks cleaner
David Cooper
Hey you are the one saying you find no difference, why change the topic now?
Leo Smith
It's a pain to look for the optional deps in the forest of outputs
Easton Russell
>what is -qq for the third time
Nicholas Sanders
I'm saying the complaints about apt are pointless and it's a trivial thing to prefer pacman over.
Jordan Rogers
Red Hat Enterprise Linux has a developer feature where you can get the OS and the Developer tool for free. You should check it out.
It tells you which dependencies will be installed if they haven't already been installed right next to the package you're installing. Now you're just talking out of your ass
Daniel Jones
>>Crux >If only it had a good wiki Just reading the fucking manual. If you want to copy and paste shit install arch.
Joseph Richardson
Where are the optional deps? sudo apt install geany -qq The following additional packages will be installed: geany-common Suggested packages: doc-base The following NEW packages will be installed: geany geany-common 0 to upgrade, 2 to newly install, 0 to remove and 9 not to upgrade. Need to get 2,772 kB of archives. After this operation, 10.8 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Jordan Martinez
What's wrong with copy and pasting things?Just so we are clear, I was looking for geany-plugins
Noah Howard
>suggested package
It's like you're a complete tard.
Nolan Phillips
see
Oliver Brooks
Copy and pasting stuff doesnt teach you about the system. You just google and copy shit every time you want to do something.
Kevin Wood
Plugins are not dependencies. Geany itself would be a dependency to the plugins.
Hunter Mitchell
Yes they are optional dependencies, and that's what I was looking for
Nice blog, where do I find a like button?
Ian Myers
Learn what a dependency is before you go around looking like a fool. It's in the name, ffs.
William Russell
I dislike your picture OP, because Windows 10 is only a part of a much bigger problem.
Benjamin Perez
If you have run out of arguments you don't need to post any more
Christian Cook
It's not an argument. You're simply a dunce, because you're asking a question with the wrong terminology, expecting us to have answers for something that can't be answered because you're using the wrong fucking word.
Anthony Allen
> (You) >Nice blog, where do I find a like button? Top right corner of the window it looks like an "X"
Easton Kelly
for
Isaiah White
>Having an X button haha
Levi Watson
Microsoft is now competing with Google in terms of botnet and spyware service, how do we even get rid of them?