>Samsung today introduced the world’s first flash memory cards in UFS form-factor. The cards are compliant with the UFS Card 1.0 specification and offer performance comparable to that of desktop SATA SSDs. It is worth noting that the new cards are not backwards compatible with current microSD devices, which use various versions of SD cards, but they open doors to new levels of removable storage performance as the spec will develop in the coming years.
>The new UFS memory cards from Samsung rely on the UFS 1.0 Card Standard (single 5.8 Gbps lanes) published earlier this year. Samsung intends to offer UFS cards with 32, 64, 128 and 256 GB capacities. The top-of-the-range 256 GB UFS card will offer sequential read performance up to 530 MB/s and sequential write performance up to 170 MB/s. As for random performance, then Samsung declares 40,000 read IOPS and 35,000 write IOPS for the 256GB version.
About time they made new cards which are as fast as the internal storage of phones
>all android phones are now obsolete tech using and out of date memory card system
Luis Torres
This is probably a bad idea.
Mason Adams
>256gb Its hard for me to understand how you can pack 256GB on such a small object
Ryan Jenkins
its not stable at all from what i've heard
Brody Howard
Jokes on you, my Nexus 5X doesn't have an SD card slot.
See Google saw this from afar and decided not to make the phone obsolete in the near future.
William Anderson
You can, but it's not comparable to a traditional hard drive. Even without benchmarks, it's pretty clear those memory cells will perish with very low write cycles, considering that's already a problem in the 'full size' 840/850 EVO.
Carson Allen
explain
Caleb Edwards
I dont know anyone that needs 520mb/s read and 170mb/s writing speed on a smartphone. This will be nearly irrelevant thing for smartphones.
What I do see the potential for this cards are rasberrypies
Blake Richardson
they had to squeeze the numbers on
James Rogers
samsung can suck my entire dick fuck this proprietary bullshit
Owen Kelly
they probably use a special storage controller on the reader. think proper ssd with removable chips
it's still horseshit, though, and i hope it dies out
Asher Smith
It's DOA, we already have UHS-II SDXC micro sd card which are bakwards compatible with UHS-I SDXC micro sd cards.
UFS is compatible with neither.
The UHS-I SDXC micro sd slot is present on like 90% of Android phones btw.
It's already dead on arrival like mentioned though.
James Butler
What? Isn't it much slower?
Tyler Butler
Not really. 312MB/s is already batshit crazy fast already. This is already faster than many SSDs out there.
Grayson Evans
they are >The UFS cards have sequential read speeds of up to 530 megabytes per second — five times faster than the best microSD cards. That means reading a 5 gigabyte, full HD movie in roughly 10 seconds, says Samsung, compared to a UHS-1 microSD card which manages the same feat in around 50 seconds.
>The electrical interface for UFS uses the M-PHY,[5] developed by the MIPI Alliance, a high speed serial interface targeting 2.9 Gbit/s (gigabits per second) per lane with up-scalability to 5.8 Gbit/s per lane.[6][7] UFS implements a full-duplex serial LVDS interface that scales better to higher bandwidths than the 8-lane parallel interface of eMMCs. Unlike eMMC, Universal Flash Storage is based on the SCSI architectural model and supports SCSI Tagged Command Queuing.
Charles Clark
It seems that the important part is that UFS is much more scalable than MicroSD and can support even higher speeds one the memory chips themselves get faster
Joseph Hill
No, they decided to make it obsolete immediately.
William James
What makes you think UFS has a chance? Why would the average joe pay $500+ for a 256GB UFS card when a $200 256GB 90MB/s write card already exceeds all of their needs by like 20X?
John Cruz
Probably because many android apps running off of microSD cards run like shit compared to when they run on the much faster internal storage.
And the prices will probably go down to meet MicroSD card prices, the format is still very new.
Anthony Gomez
They won't until UFS drops in price and spreads out more.
UFS sounds fairly attractive for a number of applications though, digital cameras and video can always do with fast, smaller, storage. We will probably see it start getting implemented on higher grade equipment first and then trickling down to consumer products as the prices drop.
James Green
>And the prices will probably go down to meet MicroSD card prices, the format is still very new. lel no they won't, they will always be more expensive than microsd cards. By the time this meme card gains attention UHS-III will probably already be out.
Josiah Flores
This will not be focused to the average Joe with their Android at launch. More like for photographers and shit, like SD did.
Eli Scott
>This will not be focused to the average Joe with their Android at launch. More like for photographers and shit, like SD did. Well UHS-II cards are already out for cameras. What does UFS have that UHS-II doesn't beside a massive lack of compatibility?
Nicholas Taylor
Speed for 4K@60fps or 8K.
Caleb Jones
Forgot pic related
Benjamin Campbell
Is this going to be some proprietary bullshit that never catches on thanks to lack of an open standard?
4K60FPS requires up to 50MB/s or 400Mbps. Even UHS-I microsd cards can provide double that speed.
8K is a meme until ~2025, we barely have any 4K content right now.
Dominic Murphy
CD was proprietary
Jonathan Brown
I was talking about consumer applications like a gopro capable of 4K60FPS. Not out yet but the GH5 is rumoured to be capable of 4K60FPS with a max bitrate of 400Mbps or 50MB/s.
I wasn't talking about the budget UHS-I microsd cards. I was talking about things like pic related which have a 90MB/s write speed and 95MB/s read speed. That translates to 720Mbps write speed.
Liam Peterson
How come when smartphones are no longer bottlenecked by trash sd cards they stop coming with expandable storage slots all together?
What is the storage jew trying to gain from this?
Henry Flores
headroom, i find you never get stable read/write speeds, i want headroom for when shit hits the fan its still above minimum to record.
David Davis
IF you use a phone as a dedicated camera that uses raw files, it would be useful for the transfer to a computer as well as for the ability to process images.
Liam Jenkins
>who'll buy bluray >who'll buy smart phones >who'll buy hd >who'll buy computers etc Commoditization is a thing.
Joshua Baker
>32 GB >2016 Literally Jews.
Dylan Kelly
Are you new to technology industry? Prices drop hard within few years and then it will be assessible to everyone.
Happens to almost every tech that will get mass produced
Dylan Robinson
Whoever buys planned obsolescence devcices deserves neither comfort nor security
Nolan Reyes
>GB You just KNOW they can fit 2TB on a card of this size RIGHT NOW and it won't cost them SHIT
Hudson Robinson
Google only did that in order to make it easier to control your phone and mine data off of your device.
Leo Flores
>not backwards compatible verily, i hath droppethed this from a great height and with disdain
Oliver Davis
Good luck getting any devices to support that speed. Most USB 3.0 card readers have difficulty maxing out that speed. Most cameras and phones are limited by the shitty readers and really only support like half of that in reality. A ton of 4K recording devices have a minimum of UHS-3 cards (30MB/s or 240Mb/s) but the actual recording bitrate usually never passes 100Mb/s.
Caleb Price
Will this make micro SD cards cheaper? I hope so.
James Hernandez
UFS is more resilient than consumer eMMC, and cheap flash used in thumb drives, and SD cards. Its a rival to industrial eMMC, and cheaper to produce.
Samsung has been using UFS modules as the internally memory for their phones for a while now. They're just getting a jump on the rest of the market with an expansion standard that truly surpasses MicroSD. Speeds and capacities don't matter any more. A 200GB+ MicroSD card that dies in 8 months or loses a significant portion of its performance is a worthless product.
There are a dozen companies backing UFS now for the record.
William Hill
>>not backwards compatible With?
A specification made by a completely separate group? Due to the shape and pinout it would be possible to make slots that support both.
Chase Clark
Equally as important for mobile devices, it uses less power, and has near zero idle power consumption.
