Why to choose RX 480 over 1060? * NVidia gSync costs more * No SLI for the 1060 3GB version, RX 480 4GB/8GB both support crossfire * 1060 has less memory, it has only the 3GB and 6GB versions * 1060 has a 192 bit bus interface vs the AMD RX 480 256 bit bus interface (AMD probably doing better in higher resolutions) * AMD has 3 display ports, perfect for triple monitor setup * RX 480 does better in DX 12, near 980 ti performance in Hitman, near 980 performance in AoS, over 980 performance in Total War: Warhammer * RX 480 already out, NVidia seems to have trouble producing cards and the 1060 will probably also have production issues * NVidia has problems with HTC VIVE * AMD cards mature better, they are more future safe than NVidia cards, they also deliver driver updates for older cards to improve performance * RX 480 is cheaper ($299 for NVidia FE vs $199/$239 for AMD stock)
Why to choose 1060 over RX 480? * RX 480 (stock) has no DVI, 1060 probably has * Lower TDP * Slightly better DX 11 performance * Better OpenGL performance
Also * Both stock versions have cheap coolers * AMD supports open source (for example Vulkan) * AMD has drivers now, they seem to do well on the software side (for example the RX 480 power draw fixes came fast) * 1060 and RX 480 aftermarket cards might have similar price while the RX 480 being a bit cheaper on average (maybe around $20) however this is a prediction only * There will be aftermarket RX 480-s with 8pin power connector and this will fix all power draw problems, probably have better OC capabilities also
The RX 480 seems to be a great card, even the stock one seems to be actually a good buy. I don't see many reasons to wait for the 1060. The FE model seems to be overpriced, need to wait even more for cheaper aftermarket cards while the RX 480 is already out.
Picture related: Sapphire RX 480 Nitro (8 pin, 1 x DVI, 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP) Probably going to buy this baby, what do you think? Will this card run stable 1400 mhz?
Who the fuck do you think you are telling me what to buy? I'll buy whatever the fuck i want you fucking small dick shill. Stop being a faggot worrying about what people buy if i want to spend 400+ on a gimped card that's on me
Cooper Brooks
There's no 3GB version of the 1060, and why are you saying it has no dx12?
Christopher Stewart
AYYMD doesn't even support DX12, GPUs that are not Feature Level 12_1 are not DX12 GPUs
Anthony Young
Cause hes trying to push DX12 but doing it incorrectly. It will support DX12 but it will have have full hardware compatibility like the AMD cards. That means AMD card will be more efficient doing things like hardware based Async computing where Nvidia will have to do it using software/drivers.
Juan Cook
>Feature Level 12_1 Includes Software Async updates for Nvidia cards. AMD has ignored this as their cards don't need it.
Jacob Cruz
The RX 480 nitro is fucking beautiful, and they came up with a clever way to get similar ventilation as the r9 380 nitro without making a massive over sized cooler. However, this system uses vents in the pcb itself, so it blows the hot air straight up into your cpu cooler. Do not suggest if you're using a stock cooler. But you don't use a stock cooler, do you user?
Chase Edwards
Why don't they make a hardware general on /vg/ ?
Levi Evans
Are you having a conversation or is it meme time?
Andrew Lee
Wrong, Feature Level 12_1 is not async
DX12 is not async, get that through your head
No Conservative Rasterization No Rasterizer Ordered Views No Tiled Resources Tier 3
AYYMD GPUs are not future proof and won't even run future games, just like AYYMD SM2.0 GPUs couldn't run SM3.0 games
Benjamin Flores
Isn't it obvious? We're on Sup Forums after all.
Joseph Sanchez
>Here we see an angry, violent cuck spotted in the wilds of Sup Forums, venting his frustrations at the world en route to making another poor life decision by purchasing an overpriced Nvidia card.
Nathan Foster
I like the way I presented you an argument with out insult but you have to insult some one to get your point across. I will look it up today or can you provide source?
Leo Gomez
poo in the loo pajeet. Everyone is now hype by 1060.
Lincoln Allen
>* NVidia gSync costs more Fair point. JewSync is ridiculously expensive.
>* No SLI for the 1060 3GB version, RX 480 4GB/8GB both support crossfire CF/SLI are pretty much dead because so many new games are completely incompatible with them.
>* 1060 has less memory, it has only the 3GB and 6GB versions Is the 3GB version confirmed? Anyways benchmarks show 8GB has no benefits over 4GB in RX480.
>* 1060 has a 192 bit bus interface vs the AMD RX 480 256 bit bus interface (AMD probably doing better in higher resolutions) RX 480 is already too slow for 1440p so it doesn't really matter.
>* AMD has 3 display ports, perfect for triple monitor setup So does NVIDIA.
>* RX 480 does better in DX 12, near 980 ti performance in Hitman, near 980 performance in AoS, over 980 performance in Total War: Warhammer All three games are sponsored by AMD, literally nobody plays AotS and Hitmans engine is complete mess, Episode 1 runs better on AMD and Episode 2 on NVIDIA and DX12 doesn't draw as much detail as DX11 renderer: pcgameshardware.de/Hitman-Spiel-6333/Specials/Episode-2-Test-Benchmarks-DirectX-12-1193618/
>* RX 480 already out, NVidia seems to have trouble producing cards and the 1060 will probably also have production issues This requires some proofs.
>* NVidia has problems with HTC VIVE True but I doubt that people throwing $600 on VR HMD buy $250 GPUs.
>* AMD cards mature better, they are more future safe than NVidia cards, they also deliver driver updates for older cards to improve performance Fermi does much better than it's old competing AMD VLIW architecture cards.
>* RX 480 is cheaper ($299 for NVidia FE vs $199/$239 for AMD stock) AMD stock card is garbage. Lets see where custom model prices settle.
Jason Fisher
Except despite all this, the RX 480 is a literal embodiment of the AMD Housefire meme and will destroy your motherboard.
And for that reason alone the 1060 wins.
Elijah Lopez
>Conservative Rasterization I'm pretty sure this is a proprietary Nvidia "feature" that works within the DX12 framework. Saying AMD doesn't haven't it is kind of fucking obvious since Nvidia developed it.
Charles King
Are you stupid or what? Intel fully supports Conservative Rasterization in Skylake GPU, it is a part of the D3D12 spec
You AYYMD uneducated morons are truly ignorant and clueless
>Anyways benchmarks show 8GB has no benefits over 4GB in RX480. Actually it's half true.Some games actually runs better with the 8GB model (like 3 - 5 fps), but a lot of them don't. I think it's more a question of future proof, since games will use more and more ram.
Kevin Gomez
Hey guys, first post, but need opinions. Best way to block the systems administrators at the corporation I work for from monitoring me constantly, it's annoying and I use 2 personal laptops on top of my work pc. I believe they are using meraki network edition because he said my pc was infected when I booted my laptop and steam updated and he saw this (google it, from 2012) ReVuln_Steam_Browser_Protocol_Insecurity.pdf. so overall, best ways to block then from seeing anything, they also use other tools and no a vpn does not work. just need ideas.
Liam Phillips
If you have a pci-e motherboard, I suggest a pci-e compliant card.
Non standard cards may violate your motherboard warranty.
Wyatt Stewart
> CF/SLI are pretty much dead because so many new games are completely incompatible with them. Somewhat agree, it isn't dead yet. Probably will be replaced by multi-gpu software solutions built using the features that new API-s offer.
> Is the 3GB version confirmed? Anyways benchmarks show 8GB has no benefits over 4GB in RX480. Aftermarket versions will have 3GB, the FE will probably be 6GB only at $299.
> 1060 has a 192 bit bus interface vs the AMD RX 480 256 bit bus interface (AMD probably doing better in higher resolutions) Seems to be just enough performance for 1440p gaming. A bit performance tuning using game settings and it will run well. I'm not talking here turning everything low, more like medium/high. Most of the benchmarks seem to be on max settings. However about the 256 bit bus, it will perform better for vram heavy workloads.
> So does NVIDIA. Actually yes, this point should be thrown out, agree.
> All three games are sponsored by AMD, literally nobody plays AotS and Hitmans engine is complete mess Seems like most of the DX 12 have AMD icons on them. Well, good for AMD, there are tons of Gameworks titles that AMD has to compete with. Cannot tell nothing about the Hitman engine, haven't seen the source code.
> This requires some proofs. The proof is the 1070/1080 launch and the final proof will come when the 1060 is finally launched.
> Fermi does much better than it's old competing AMD VLIW architecture cards. I had GCN in mind. Agreed with the VLIW part.
> AMD stock card is garbage. Lets see where custom model prices settle. Agreed, that's why I' waiting for the Sapphire Nitro. Also I have an async monitor so nvidia isn't really an option here for me. Nvidia should fix this, it is a big turnoff. However nvidia has better recording features. Anyways I won't do any recording.
Kayden Torres
Conservative Rasterization was pioneered by Nvidia after GCN was already created so of course it just so happens to be a technology that is incompatible with GCN. That doesn't mean that intel couldn't license the IP from Nvidia for inclusion on Skylake iGPUs.
I'm just pointing out how hollow it is to say that AMD doesn't support Conservative Rasterization when it basically exists as a bullet point for Nvidia to say "look at this thing we have that they other guys can't have."
Isaiah Perry
I meant *vsync in the final part and also copied the wrong line for the third statement. I'm completely aware of that.
Wyatt Mitchell
vpn does work if its encrypted.
Christian Foster
My 380X plays new games at high/ultra at >60 FPS at WQHD. 480 is perfect for the resolution, if you're not some dumb faggot who needs everything on ultra even if it brings no visible benefit.
Anthony Campbell
Yo, DX12_1 and all the goodies are what bring new rendering modes to DX12/DX11.3, DX12_0 supported by AMD lacks any of it, meaning all they have is better CPU usage.
Of course saying that it can't be done by AMD(or older Nvidia GPUs) is silly because it can be done on software mode using shaders, not that you would want to unless you want games running at 10FPS.
Also Intel has supported some features of DX12_1 even before Nvidia or even before it was called "DX12_1" or even before DX12 was even announced.
The "DX12_1 is just Nvidia" has been throw around by AMD people trying to downplay it for some time now and people are falling for it.
Charles Rodriguez
Cuck/Cuckold :A demasculated Millenial liberal male who often speaks of white privilege and modern feminism. Blames white men for all of the world's problems.. 480 cost 399+ where i live fool
Angel Thomas
good and if anyone says otherwise they are memeing, shitposting or shills
Landon Perry
>even joking about buying obsolete Nvidia gpus if they dont sort their bullshit out in Q4 with some HBM2 cards geared for DX12+, AMD ill be pushing them out of the market.
the rx4-- series is built on obsolete components but at least its geared for DX12+ standards.
Christian Cooper
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Jaxon Barnes
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Luke Hall
Why are the atidrones so buthurt this gen? The constant threads trying to do damage control is really making them look pathetic.
Justin Howard
k
Nicholas Long
Not good, why the fuck did he buy a reference card?
Benjamin Ward
>all gaymeworks games wew lad
Kayden Mitchell
DX12 is a marketing scheme, if a card has better fps in a game than another card, it's the better card. Doesn't matter what API they're using.
Also look at this: legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-undervolting-performance_183699 3-4% more performance when optimized. This means it would score around 75 average in the pcgamer test and this means it would be 11-12% faster than the gtx 970. Also AMD updated the drivers and gained about 3% performance when optimizing the card plus less stuttering.
Juan Young
Only it does.If you look at dx11 performance the 480 is currently on par with a 970 meanwhile with dx12 it easily matches or is better than 980.
Gabriel Harris
Primary concerns with the 1060:
Incompatibility with then HTC Vive (or its successor?)
The MSRP is a lie because partner boards for the 1070 and 1080 all seem to be the same cost as the founder edition and i expect the same to be true for the 1060.
Otherwise i'm quite tempted... always bought AMD though, if the 490 ends up being competitive when Kaby Lake is released i might go for that over a 480 or 1060.
Connor Watson
>bothering with kaby lake when zen is coming in like 3 months wew lad
Angel Robinson
But Zen is probably going to be just as disappointing as the 480
why should he wait?
Luis Rivera
>implying the 480 was disappointing NVIDIOT SHILL SPOTTED
Parker Roberts
1 rupee has been deposited into your AMD toilet building fund.
Lucas Green
samefag shitposter
Ryder Ross
Still running a XFX Radeon HD 7870. And I'm still getting good FPS at 1080p. Really for now that's all I care about. Was thinking about upgrading to either the 1060 for the 480.
Kevin Wilson
Lel just let it go. You AMD fags can't be even funny. Probably cuz your school had to waste time trying to teach you how to use loo instead of introducing you to nuances of English language.
Carter Allen
>Conservative Rasterization you really dont know what amd did with their new geometry processor eh hint they already have it but for marketing BS aka vega they havent really said anything why you think they directly intergrated the HWS into the geometry processor instead of replacing all the ace engines with HWS?
Ayden Young
>AMD general >Promises, speculations and accusations edition
Ryan James
No it is tech and everyone who cries about it either has some serious autism or is just a little bitch
Asher Green
Is there a chance that i can pre-order Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card for cheaper than 275gbp? Preferably in euro currency.Any site that would sell do this and would ship to Hungary too?
Jack Phillips
- VR is DoA same way 3D TVs were the big thing dee years ago and now nobody gives a fuck about them. It's simply too expensive to hit mainstream market which means no games. It has nice uses in education and porn but games are expensive to make.
- 2016 overall is just a massive paper launch both for Nvidia and AMD. Believe it or not but those cards WILL drop in price once people stop pre-ordering them. It's funny to see you complaining about day 1 prices when you're an AMD waitfag.
Dylan Carter
when's this coming out Stateside
Adrian Brown
are you actually comparing 3d with vr?
vr is a totally different monster
Lucas Peterson
Anybody?Please
Gavin Ortiz
I would never recommend AMD graphics. They've fucked me one too many times with promises of functionality that didn't work and with shitty drivers.
Beyond that, AMDs practical support of Linux is terrible. If you want good 3D performance on Linux, the choice is clear.
Aaron Hernandez
see on overclockers if they have any
Christopher Davis
That's where it's currently available for pre-order.Hence my question if there is other site where i could pre-order it for 275 dollar or euro.
Camden Watson
>amds practical support of linux is terrible
meanwhile amdgpu driver has already 335% better perf than the previous on linux..like 3 months now
paid shills just dont know where to go in order to find a flaw
Jace Phillips
if you have enough brain cells to follow the maze of french and german sites you might actually find one i saw some days ago on 282 on a random french
Jayden Taylor
nitro is £249.99, and the powercolour devil one is £254.99 on overclockers.
Wyatt Lopez
>compares AMD to AMD >crows about AMD beating AMD.
Wyatt Torres
335% increase doesn't really mean anything when your performance is close to non-existent.
As someone who's stuck with a 7970GHz for now, it's pretty fucking annoying to be limited to using IG+VM passthrough or just not do shit like play muh gaemz
Chase Davis
and you will never see any gain since amd already dropped support for gcn 1.0 .... problem is the 7xxxx didnt had any programmable ace engines while from gcn 1.1 and after they do have sooner or later you will have to buy a new card its been 5 years already and while its a great card i dont deny it sadly if you choose to go to botnet 10 you wont be able to play any of the new games that support dx12 (warhammer/rotr and most probably every single one of them from now on)
Lincoln King
So, seems like undervaluing the 480 actually results in a performance increase, maybe the initial batch of cards were just lemons.
That's the problem though, if I just plop in my old 580 I can actually play games because the drivers function better on GNU/Linux. I like AMDs hardware, but I've never ever had a card where I didn't have any issues (crashes in windows, simply not working in linux, flickering, etc.)
It's laughable and has left a tainted feeling.
Angel Moore
its with import fees but without vat so its EU retail
Tyler King
Also it's not nitro.
Jason Gomez
Same experience here, in fact I'm running a 570 in my primary machine.
my bad user my german skills are good only to say hail hydra lol tho in my country they started 350 and they have dropped on 346 and they expect to sell them
Jacob Powell
The problem with 480 is the power consumption.
I want to upgrade my pc I built years ago. I currently have a a phenom x4 and a GTX 770. Running on a 450 watt PSU.
If I buy a Vishera the PSU won't be able to carry the 480, but will carry the 1060 without any problem.
The problem is more common than you think, most people use a 400 to 500 watt PSU and buying a card that draws 250 watt under load is a huge issue.
Andrew Rogers
the RX 480 would be a good upgrade for you
Anthony Gutierrez
the card draws 164 watts on gaming loop.................................... unless that you think torture is normal mode..
Joseph Moore
>1060 has a 192 bit bus interface vs the AMD RX 480 256 bit bus interface And yet both have a reported 8gb/s.
Jacob Wilson
they also reported that 1060 is 15% faster than 480 will literally less hardware than its capable but ok nvidia never lies
Joseph Martin
>The proof is the 1070/1080 launch Fun fact - Overclockers sold out their 1000 cards received in the first batch of 480s. Just like they did 1080s. The proof seems to be in the opposite.
