The truth revealed.
What Really Caused the 480 Power Issues
Isaiah Thompson
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Daniel Powell
> truth
> fat shill moaning
kk
Isaiah Johnson
He's probably right though.
It wasn't an engineering problem, they knew it had issues, they just rushed it out.
Anthony Lopez
>talks about a problem even AMD has admitted to.
>hes a shill, fucking must be a paid shill totally.
Caleb Russell
The truth is that the PCI-E specification allows a card to ask for more power, and if the motherboard can handle it, it can decide to let the card draw more than the 75W standard.
Oliver Smith
no fucking shit, of course they knew it, how is this some revelation for this fat retard?
Leo Peterson
Tell that to all the people whose motherboards died when they used a 480.
Ayden Nguyen
Bullshit, motherboards have no protection against cards like the 480 overdrawing power.
Jace James
I'd like to see a singe mobo that has died due to the rx480
Nicholas Hill
Xavier Roberts
Oh, you mean that one person whose claim is shoddy at best?
Jeremiah Moore
>one person
Levi Morris
Liar. It's in the PCI-E specification.
Kevin Taylor
Every time someone asks for proof, that one link with that one motherboard gets posted. Out of all the cards sold only that one person made a thread. Nice.
Nolan Thomas
>I should clarify. The only motherboards that will likely experience any issues are those with terrible power delivery integration or boards from ~2006 and earlier
Lucas Wilson
So literally the only argument against the card is the power issue that at most affected like 5/n units sold already, and only affected mobos that were actual shit?
Anthony Moore
It's not, pcie cards are only allowed to draw 75W from the slot.
That's why there's never been a card that draws more than that...until the 480
Jason Bell
Yeah no. The motherboard doesn't decide how much power is drawn, it can only shut it down if there are protection circuits present.
And those aren't meant to be triggered in normal use. They are the final solution to short to ground.
Juan Reed
More people killing their motherboard with the 480:
forum.ethereum.org
Cooper Murphy
There's at least 10+ cases of the 480 killing motherboards and the card just came out. I'll start posting some of them here.
Camden Hill
They can limit power draw. Any motherboard that isn't a cheap piece of shit that doesn't follow specifications will do this.
Grayson Carter
Tons of people having issues with the 480, this card is incredibly unstable: community.amd.com
James Mitchell
>that at most affected like 5/n units sold already,
It affects every single 480 on sale right now.
There are no aftermarket 480 on the market right now.
Lincoln Nguyen
Nope, there's not a single motherboard out there that limits power draw on the pcie.
That's why the 480 is such a problem, it runs too much power through the motherboard and destroys it over time.
Thomas Torres
Killed the audio on his motherboard with the 480: community.amd.com
Hunter Gonzalez
It has nothing to do with cheapness and you're not saying anything I didn't already say. The protection circuits can kick in while the RX 480 doing its thing, but that's just as fucking bad. How do you like your computer shutting down while playing video games?
Henry Miller
> Nope, there's not a single motherboard out there that limits power draw on the pcie.
Stop lying. Every motherboard that isn't a cheap piece of shit does.
Easton Gutierrez
If a graphics card taking a couple more watts out of the PCI-E slot will fry your motherboard, you bought a really shitty motherboard.
Xavier Roberts
Nope, there is no motherboard in existence that can deal with the 480 overdrawing power. All of them go over the limit or just shut down completely like said.
Landon Edwards
>couple of watts
Try 150% of rated power, which is already 300% of original rated power.
Sebastian Phillips
Actually what you did is bought a really shitty video card like the 480 that kills motherboards.
It's funny because the guy in the video above used a 980 Ti (huge power draw) and it worked perfectly fine.
Then he put a 480 in the same system and it kept crashing.
Jeremiah James
see
Adrian Hughes
980Ti draws it from the PCI-E power connectors.
Nathan Bailey
Nice bikeshedding, AMDrone.
Luis Butler
Look, you can stop justifying the fact that you're poor and can't afford a motherboard that isn't a complete piece of shit and admit you're wrong.
Wyatt Johnson
Killed his motherboard with the 480: overclock.net
Caleb Jackson
>not poor
>buying 480
Pick one.
Sebastian Gray
>tfw 980 ti
Camden Adams
My motherboard is great.
I wouldn't want to damage it though with a 480. The problem with the overdraw is it damage your motherboard over time, so you never know when the 480 is going to kill your motherboard. Could be in a day, could be in months.
Christian Smith
He's correct..... Thats why I'm waiting for the Sapphire Nitro.
Landon Ward
> My motherboard is great.
Yeah, no. It's really not.
Lincoln Taylor
This is not true, Nvidia/AMD bios modding on the overclockers net forum have been modding bios to draw more power from the pcie-rail and the pcie-e power connectors and you can draw more than 88watts (although not recommended) from the pcie-rail itself continuously without the pc shutting down, theres no failsafe on the motherboard to prevent a GPU from drawing too much power from the pcie-rail, i believe there were some workstation motherboards that had the setting on the bios and applied it on windows log on but hardware could still bypass the limit.
Jose Jenkins
One doesn't stay not poor by needlessly buying technology.
I'll spend ~3500 on a show saddle before I spend $800 on a video card.
Juan Hughes
480 is even killing high end motherboards: linustechtips.com
Thomas Young
Yup. Tom's even got it up to 200W.
Thomas Roberts
No one gave a shit when the 960 exceeded pci spec. If you have ever overclocked a video card you likely exceeded pci spec. This issue is overblown and an example of fanboyism.
tomshardware.com
Joshua Butler
The 960 never exceeded spec.
The 480 is the only card that goes over the limit, that's why the 480 is killing motherboards
Adam Fisher
Those are just spikes(what are capacitors for duh) not continuously draw like the 480.
Jack Green
Brand new 480 destroyed motherboard: reddit.com
Jayden Campbell
Mining rig motherboard destroyed by 480: bitcointalk.org
Ian Walker
Picture of guy's motherboard destroyed by 480, showing error code that his pcie slot is dead:
Alexander Wright
At least we can agree that this is far more damaging than the 3.5GB meme right? I wonder why Sup Forums give AMD a pass here and yet bitch non-stop about the 970. At least the nVidia card didn't fry your motherboard.
Anthony Reed
How about you cite it, then.
Bentley Green
>guy just speculating and ranting for 11 minutes
Who even watches these videos?
Brayden Murphy
No. You go and do your own research.
Kevin Myers
You think there weren't a lot of people that give the 970 a pass?
Christopher White
>bullshit the post
Luke Davis
HELLO. THIS IS /u/ALKALADUR
I am the author of the reddit thread you have linked to, my reddit username is /u/Alkaladur.
The moderators on reddit have banned from the r/AMD subreddit.
In addition to this, my thread is now longer showing at the top of the subreddit.
Instead a thread that claims the RX480 is not out of spec, and that the PCI-E slots can use 300W is AT THE TOP OF THE SUBREDDIT.
I fucking love it.
William Green
Then do it faggot, I have been waiting an hour for it. As we can see you can't find any so fuck off shill
Samuel Cooper
Oh this guy? His board died the day after it was announced and PC perspective said it would degrade your board after time. I guess degrade after time was 24 hours after he found out about it. I call bullshit on this guy.
Brandon Smith
No. The shitstorm about the 480 is far more tame than the 970.
Alexander Nguyen
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Juan Harris
>asrock
>expecting it to work properly with this much grease applied to it
maybe he will learn to buy a normal brand by now
Oliver Torres
Besides half of the nvidia cards that drew 85-95 right?
Camden Torres
>tfw the 480 is raped by the 3.5GB 970
Jaxson Edwards
give it a few weeks of new dx12 releases. the relative performance and driver updated will stomp not only the 970 but also 980
Parker Foster
why are people still talking about the "powerdraw pci-e issue"?
IT HAS BEEN FIXED WITH LATEST DRIVER YOU RETARDS
Mason Baker
kek
William Wood
You'd probably spend 60 bux on mobo too, then.
Matthew Hughes
>AMD
>drivers
I have my doubts.
Evan Cooper
That card can't have 3.5 gb of memory, it's technically impossible. If it didn't have meme link, it'd have either 3 or 6 gb of memory.
Brody Peterson
>j-just wait..!
You people become a worse meme than 3.5
Carter Bennett
>BWAAAAAAAAH - the video
Carter Thomas
The new drivers don't even fix it. It still overdraws on the pcie.
Bentley Allen
Nope.
Gavin Adams
480 IS A CURSED NUMBER
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TOO IT
DO NOT TRUST THE NUMBER 480
Nicholas Richardson
The 480 is the only card that goes over the pcie spec, that's why the 480 is killing motherboards
Angel Young
You might want to look above at all the cases posted in this thread...the 480 has killed so many motherboards that I hope AMD get sued
Jayden Jones
It depends a lot on your motherboard how fast the 480 will kill it.
Some motherboards will get killed by the 480 in seconds because they can't handle it. Others the burn takes a while to destroy. That's the worst part, you never know when the 480 is going to make your motherboard stop working.
Joseph Johnson
It's funny how AMD is trying to hide this so bad. The guy posts facts and then his entire post gets deleted. AMD doesn't want people to know that the 480 is killing motherboards.
Landon James
This guys pic also was deleted from Imgur.
Camden Young
> AMD controls imgur moderation
Get out your tinfoil hats, everyone.
Jackson Lewis
>i read my favorite amd ranting site which confirms dis
except it does not, it lowers relative power drawn to 68 watts on pci-e in metro last light 4k aka worst case unrealistic scenario
Nathaniel Harris
You mad!
Noah Brooks
Pretty much. Your motherboards has to be 10 years old and garbage....otherwise the card works great.
Jacob Baker
techpowerup.com
for all those trash poster which are a week behind in their minds
Brody Gomez
One guy lost and Asus Rampage.
Ryan Murphy
The update already fixed it though.
Blake Williams
>The second adjustment is an option inside Radeon Settings, called "Compatibility Mode", kinda vague, and the tooltip doesn't reveal anything else either. Out of the box, the setting defaults to off and should only be employed by people who still run into trouble, even with the adjusted power distribution from the first change, which is always on and has no performance impact. When Compatibility Mode is enabled, it will slightly limit the performance of the GPU, which results in reduced overall power draw.
Isn't on by default. "should only be employed by people who still run into trouble", so after your mobo is fried turn it on. "will slightly limit the performance of the GPU" ahahahaa they just gimped their card so it doesn't exceed spec. This is too good.
Kayden Reyes
>With the Compatibility Mode option enabled, power from the slot goes down to 71 W only, which is perfectly safe, but will cost performance.
BUT WILL COST PERFORMANCE
Dominic Jackson
AMD really fucked up this time and this "fix" is just insulting.
Jackson Price
>It only happens because you bought a bad mobo!
If you bought a shitty budget brand like AMD, you probably bought a shitty budget motherboard.
Jaxon Green
Sup Forums is contrarian as fuck. You should realize that by now.
Tyler Johnson
Yup they are trying to hide the truth.
Caleb Carter
WEAK
Charles Barnes
yea they gimped it for the retards which measure their greasy pci-e slots.
saphhirED says that 8pins are overkill
pci-e slots should be able by logic to endure much more than that because why the fuck shouldn't they handle a 80 watt pci-e draw and not a 250 watt housefire bulldozer
Ryan Green
revision C
>rushed out
people still dont understand that the problem was that the card wasnt decreasing the voltage after the boost clock was gone...
Jaxon Hernandez
Raja on Reddit : we pci express 3.0
pcisig.com
ctrl+f 480 -> GeForce GTX 480 :)
ctrf + f GP104 -> NVIDIA GP104 January 15, 2016
PCIe 3.0, 8GT/s x16
no Raja you have no certification
Landon Campbell
>Reddit
Your fault for thinking free speech exists on that shithole.
Go ahead and post it on any other relevant site, though. People should stop acting like AMD is a special snowflake that dindu nuffin
Alexander Turner
>should only be employed by people who still run into trouble
What did they mean by this?