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Can you only have one auto define per file type in vim? I want to highlight tabs and trailing whitespace different colours in python.
Cheers
Gavin Clark
>SFTP server done >Firewall done (picture related) What next, /fglt/?
Logan Nelson
Here's what I am trying to do. Please help highlight BadWhitespace ctermbg=red guibg=darkred highlight Tabs ctermbg=blue guibg=darkblue au BufRead,BufNewFile *.py,*.pyw,*.c,*.h: \ match Tabs /^\s\+/ \ match BadWhiteSpace /\s\+$/
Not 100% linux related question but how do I add a motd for cygwin? Putting a motd file in the /etc/ folder doesnt work neither does it work if it put it in /etc/defaults/etc/
Jason Taylor
Sure
Nolan Mitchell
>cygwin Actually close to 0% linux related. did you try symlinking it?
Adrian Morgan
according to OP, this is a Linux and GNU thread cygwin isn't Linux related, but it is GNU related
True, but GNU is not the same as Linux. Also people here don't go around and ask wine questions in windows threads do they? i would like to help him but i don't have the ability to try doing what he tries in cygwin since i don't run windows. I would suggest asking cygwin users or reading their wiki. Another thing i could recommend is reading wiki.debian.org/motd since they tell you how different GNU/Linux distros handle motd.
Michael Garcia
Shouldn't most shells do this by default? Why would you add this to a file manager? I think both qt and gtk suck btw. Which sucks less is a matter of personal preference and calling users of the other side names is really not the right way to improve it.
Lincoln Perry
How difficult is it to change vanilla linux to linux-libre? Is there a guide I could read? My hardware doesn't need any nonfree drivers, so this shouldn't be a problem.
Isaac Robinson
Also, what's a good place to read more about kernel hacking in general?
Adam Baker
On which distro? On debian you can just remove nonfree and contrib and have a blobfree kernel, on buntu you can switch to trisquel sources, on arch switch to parabola (there should be a guide on the parabola website or the pkgbuild on the AUR). maybe reading trisquel.info/en/wiki/compiling-gnu-linux-libre-kernel helps. or try kernelnewbies.org/FAQ
Jaxon Smith
Why would someone look at that incoherent picture when I could just read the Ubuntu page about ufw and its documentation? What's the obsession with your idiots for infographics and weak, incomplete information presented in form of a fancy picture?
Samuel Anderson
Thank you very much buddy. Will read into these!
Luis Torres
Fuck off, he's doing a good job and unlike you, contributes something useful.
Colton Long
Wiki is bloated. And the picture clearly is not a replacement of a wiki, brain dead retard
Jaxon Cooper
>having all the relevant information about something is bloated
It's funny to see someone claiming that calling other people brain-dead retards.
Jason Reyes
Do you even know how to read a whole fucking sentence?
Cooper Jenkins
downloaded virtualbox
which linux should i pick as a total beginner?
Robert Roberts
Install gentoo (and that's a non-meme answer) if you want to get into the shellstuff.
What exactly do you want to do with linux?
Logan Collins
I usually recommend fedora or debian because of their community and policies. you need to be able to read for them though. If you aren't go for buntu.
William Roberts
Thank you based vim man. But one more q. The syntax overrides the default python highlighting. Any way to have both?
Mason Anderson
just checking it out
Dominic Long
Babby's first linux is Ubuntu
Jace Scott
>Wiki is bloated. That's a whole sentence. The full stop at the end signifies it.
Joseph King
You sure picked the "brain dead" from the other sentence, don't even try
Aaron Cooper
Checking it out for what? You shouldn't just install linux for no reason or you'll go through the installation process and be like "now what" at the end of it.
Henry Wright
If anyone is still using datadog and didn't check your mail today yet, it appears that they got hacked
Jason Taylor
there's also firewalld that has firewall-config gooey configuration tool.
Brayden Collins
>Yandex DNS I hope no one who actually lives in Russia uses this guide
Tyler Perez
What's that? Russians can use OpenDNS :^)
Julian Jackson
Not him but i started just for trying it when i had 2 weeks of time. Now i am happy on sid.
Nolan Cruz
Firewalld's main advantage isn't its GUI, but the fact that it supports profiles which integrate nicely with NetworkManager. It's useful for people on laptops which connect to different networks.
Matthew Miller
>What's that? It's a monitoring SaaS, I used to run it on a VPS a while ago. It pulls third party software from their repositories and today they've asked everyone to reset their passwords and revoke API keys.
Julian Ross
I read this in RMS's voice
Anthony Price
If I try Debian live before formatting my hard drive will I be able to determine if it can use all my hardware or be able to download drivers for everything or whatever? Also you're suppose to suck the fluid out of my nose.
Michael Robinson
If a debian live usb works on your machine that means that your hardware works without proprietary software aand on old kernels. if a debian nonfree live usb works it means your hardware runs on old kernels. but you could just check out if your individual hardware needs nonfree drivers.
Jackson James
Probably not, device support often relies on kernel configuration. You might be able to install/load additional kernel modules after booting the livecd but it's not a trivial task if you don't know what you're doing.
Brandon Cook
So I guest I just dual boot into debian and see if I can get everything working before I get rid of windows?
Ethan Hall
That is one way. But you could also check out a detailed hardware list of your computer and searx for compatibility issues. just installing it would work too.
Jaxon Roberts
What's an easy way to download from mega via cli?
Josiah Thomas
Yeah, probably. On your current install you can mess with it, install drivers and change kernel, it's much harder on live media. If you mess it up you'll still have a backup system too. And if you're going to play a lot of videogames then you'll might want to keep Windows anyway.
GTK is not responsible for this. Gnome would be responsible for implementing the UI for this function.
Julian Robinson
Guys. Sometimes I just want to drop GNOME/GTK and just bite into the sour KDE apple. This "removing features" mentality, no filepicker, etc trash makes me sick. Should I say "fuck it, 1,5 GB isn't that much" and switch?
Jeremiah Lee
KDE isn't 1.5GB.
Tyler Stewart
In dolphin when you are in a directory with lots of subdirectories, if you go on to a subdirectory and then go back out you are dropped at the beginning of the list of subdirectories, not where you just were. Can this be changed? It's really annoying.
Jose Ross
>run ubuntu 16.04 >everything works okay >a few days later >error popups right after startup >random shit just breaks during the system use >happened both when I ran it in a VM and when I installed it as a main system on a laptop
which non-shitty distro should I pick instead?
Aaron Cox
Sounds like you fucked it up, things don't magically go wrong for no reason.
Jonathan Ward
I did nothing and it happened multiple times on different installations
I feel like after some of its updates it just breaks
Tyler Morgan
KDE has a bunch of issues on it's own but GNOME/GTK is practically a sinking ship now that's afloat only because of Red Hat
Ethan Torres
whats so bad about unity?
I'm kinda enjoying it, only had problems on some older computers where it was laggy as fuck
Grayson Davis
Ok sure
Adrian Baker
Nothing if you like it
Alexander Bennett
Why do GTK programs have such a hard time fitting their taskbar icons in KDE if the taskbar is fairly small?
Leo Martinez
I suppose that the GTK icons aren't designed to follow the "KDE standard", assuming this is even a thing.
Wyatt Hernandez
Ignore both sides as much as possible and use dwm or i3wm.
John Watson
Dont I need a framework for gui stuff? With i3 I'd end up with the same gtk stuff like currently on gnome.
Luis Wood
Yes
John Taylor
I use a few gnome things, but at least you won't have to pick a side and shout at others. And you will have a better WM than both gnome and kde have.
Thomas Bailey
Why did it die?
Andrew Turner
Because it was shit and pointless.
Jonathan Perez
riceDB killed it.
James Harris
We have a bunch of good people here in /fglt/, why not create something that doesn't suck?
James Garcia
There is literally no reason for it. Anything it was trying to do already exists.
Blake Allen
Gentoo
Colton Gomez
How is i3 a better window manager than Kwin or Mutter? You don't even know about any of the advanced features they offer, but you're instead just parroting misinformation you saw on here. The only reason you put i3 on a pedestal is because you think that tiling window managers are hot shit. Guess what, Kwin can also tile.
Brody Hill
OpenDNS is garbage. You should be running your own DNS and going straight to the IANA root. There is no reason to rely on third party services, especially ones as disgustingly privacy invading as OpenDNS. At the very least you should suggest OpenNIC.
Leo Hernandez
What's the root of this meme?
Robert Cox
XFCE is surely the superior DE I will use once my USB is finished being formatted?
Charles Bailey
Will you?
Easton Scott
Yea, supposedly it's lightweight and is just as easy to navigate in then any other DEs.
Easton Richardson
Im currently using a first gen i3 laptop with 4gb of ram as my primary machine. I didn't have a swap partition cus lazy so the system would often just freeze up. I've since swapon like 4gb. Is there anything I should do to further optimize performance? I'm running cinnamon on a ubuntu 14.04 lts minimal install.
Bentley Martin
So what was your question?
Alexander Carter
I don't use i3. I use dwm and for me tiling as default with grouping into master and stack makes sense. I3 users often like that they can specify where it tiles exactly. Another good thing specifically about dwm is how fast it is, everyting reacts without any noticable delay. This can not be said about kwin and usually not about mutter either. The floating layout of dwm has very strong window snapping in the default configuration which makes using it feel fast and efficient. Floating windows are also above tiling onesby default which makes it useful for video/music players or anything else you wouls like to use. Monocle view is also nice for some things like gimp or blender. And the quick overview with mod1+0 makes more sense then the ones in gnome or kde imo. Not that I dislike kde or gnome, I just think they kinda suck for me.
Oliver Smith
/s4s/
Luke Myers
If you want you could use a more lightweight DE/WM and add a swap file or partition. Since it is a laptop you might want something like tlp. Which gpu is in there? Why are you using 14.04 on a personal machine?
Aiden Carter
>based on arch >zsh by default >i3 by default instead of a choice of different WMs >no choice between rolling and stable There are a few reason. The logo and name were nice though.
Carter Ward
It is a laptop but it's being used as a desktop effectively. External monitors, kb/mouse, always on AC. My RAM usage on boot is under 200, the only issue is chrome devouring my memory. I just prefer it to FF a lot, and all the "lite" browsers I have tried end up having a major flaw that requires me to have a back up browser anyway. I'm using 14.04 because I already have it all configured. I've tried switching to pure debian but can't get easytether to work. I have a swap now, it's 3.7gb which is the same as my real ram. I've never had a system that needed a swap so I'm just not sure if there is anything further I should do to optimize it. Can I like set a priority on what gets sent to the swap once my ram is consumed?
Gavin Ross
>This can not be said about kwin and usually not about mutter either. [citation of objective, scientifically measured data needed]
Joshua Cooper
Oh and what do I have to gain by switching to a more recent release? Everything is running very well but I am open to upgrading if it's warranted.
Xavier Nguyen
Depending on your hardware the drivers got better, more features, some things may be faster on newer versions. The LTS branch is really only useful for servers imo. But it's your machine, just make sure to follow the security mailinglist.
Chase Campbell
Hello
Does someone know how to fix this border issue ? (since Plasma 5.7, on Slackware -current)
Dominic Perry
I'll resize my /home and try xenial on it. I finally have everything exactly the way I want it on this and just don't want to risk having to re-do everything. There are so many little things that you end up doing to tweak your system over time. Not to mention how big of a pain in the ass it was to get EasyTether to work.
Jaxson Rodriguez
Well, there's a update, hopefully it will fix it.
Jordan Brown
Unfortunately the amount of benchmarks regarding specific window managers on GNU/Linux is not very high. The only thing you will find are memory comparisons. And while they could prove my point, we both know how inaccurate memory usage comparisons are in regard to responsiveness in window managers. But I can say from my experience on both high end and low end systems that dwm is more responsive than both mutter and kwin. If you don't trust my subjective perception try it yourself.
Liam Turner
What settings do you guys use for KDE? I love all the eyecandy and customization but holy shit this is unstable.
>mfw I crash my my entire DE just by moving a panel icon
Ian Jones
Just move on to greener pastures mang
You can't be doin with this
Cooper King
plasma 5? I'm still on kde4 but it's pretty solid with fairly minimal effects enabled.
Kevin Thompson
What should I use if not KDE?
Logan Barnes
LXDE is nice, light, stable, and customizable, and being updated unlike XFCE
You could use a stand-alone window manager like i3wm as well
Or just resign and use GNOME 3, which isn't that bad but it's sometimes a bit frustrating
Gabriel Ortiz
Same shit, don't change anything.
Nothing, KDE is by far the best DE (and the only good one).
Jaxon Rodriguez
oh and Cinammon is also nice, I hear, but it's a fork of GNOME 3 so
Alexander Williams
>only good DE >posts here because he has issues with it wew lad, talk about brand loyality.
Landon Russell
>BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT KDE
Caleb Roberts
Xfce is still alive. A lot of updates doesn't mean it's a sane project. And, honestly, it's nice to know your shit won't change during the current year.
I'm using the latest release, not the stables one, so it's to be expected. You won't have an issue with KDE 4 (or even Plasma 5.6.5)
