>Install windows >Windows can't find network drivers online >Windows device manager can't even detect my network card >Search online for a method to detect which ethernet card I have >Download 3DP which is supposed to be the ultimate solution for network drivers >Can't detect shit >ask around on windows forums and get told the card is probably not working >it actually sends a signal >after hours of trying random solutions, some shady Russian program called Driver Pack Solution finally detects and installs drivers
>one day be trying out a Debian live CD >Notice network drivers are working out of the box
Let's be realistic here. Windows has plenty of software that is only made for it, and it isn't all games. But the whole thing with Linux having terrible driver support just seems false to me.
Eli Walker
>Install Linux >Nothing works
David Harris
That was similar to the case for me when I tried linux. I finally found info on the drivers hidden in a forum thread from 2011, which linked to the project page of some taiwanese motherfucker that last touched the code on 2011, probably taken and executed by the chinese government shortly after finishing them.
Anyway, the drivers worked, but only after I disabled secure boot and allowed the kernel to load fucking unsigned drivers.
Then I tried some other pieces of hardware that, to be entirely fair, would not work right out of the box on windows either, but there just wasn't anything for them on linux, other than tears and empty promises.
So yeah, it varies from device to device.
Justin Ortiz
> I'm going to post bullshit that never happened > That will surely convince people to switch to Linux (it's actually GNU plus linux) Five grams of Stallman's food dead skin have been deposited in your shilling jar enjoy your meal
Brandon Perry
Most people don't actually install Windows, it comes on their computer preinstalled, with the drivers preinstalled. Then they try to install another OS and realize they don't know wtf they're doing. and blame the OS.
Michael Lee
>Install Windows >Nothing works I can do the same thing, you know :^)
Leo Ortiz
The last thing the FSFwould boast is support for a large variety of drivers...
Oliver Davis
Well yeah, it's the equivalent of saying ps3 has no games.
Dylan Russell
>things that didn't happenc or you have shitty hardware
Brayden Sullivan
Shit that never happened: the post
Evan White
>if drivers work the hardware must be shitty uhh what? lol
Owen Kelly
Name one (1) thing that doesn't work on windows
Pro tip: you cant
Ryan Young
sudo rm -rf /
Levi Kelly
Font rendering.
Tyler Parker
Debian live is great, it works on just about everything.
Brody Gonzalez
>Name one (1) thing that doesn't work on windows how's your buggy DVD software coming along, winshill?
Adrian Peterson
Windows 10 can't play DVD
Brayden Foster
Floppy drives
Jackson Moore
>2016 >Using discs
What is this 2005?
Thomas Taylor
install windows everything works
/thread
Ryan Butler
>h-heh, who uses d-dvds a-anyways amirite guyze?!
Zachary Nguyen
OP:
Take that laptop to a Microsoft Store and probably leave with a free one:
>reinstall windows 7 >fucking stuck at 640x480 resolution because no gpu drivers >no audio or network driver is installed whatsover so can't download them >have to use the CDs that the gpu and the motherboard came with >try linux mint on live usb >everything just fucking works >1920x1080, audio and internet working perfectly fine >completely blown the fuck out I wish I had fallen for the linux meme earlier
David Walker
Was it 3dp net? 3dp chip doesn't come with network drivers.
Ian Diaz
>too stupid to go to the motherboard's manufacturer's website to download the drivers >blog on Sup Forums about it
Leo Scott
>Windows can't find network drivers online
Eli Anderson
Would download all my blu rays if america didn't have the shittiest internet in the world
Brody Butler
>1920x1080 >blown the fuck out Dude, 1080p is peasantry
Brayden White
most infosec programs most low level programming resources the "not a botnet" feature most reverse engineering resources also shit server use compared to linux
try harder faglord
Dylan Howard
Well that's what my monitor supports, and it's way better than 640x480
Austin Bennett
>Indicating progressive scan when talking about computer monitors
Charles Wilson
Ida and olly/immunity debug work on windows
Jeremiah Myers
The CRT my box fan sits on does 1080i but no way it could do 1080p
Henry Smith
Setting aside the "better" "debate", I think we should stop to acknowledge that at this point any Sup Forumsentleman worth his shit should know how to do shit on both. And why does nobody ever just check their goddamn device manager against pcidatabase.com?
Jack Gomez
>install windows 10 >it automatically activates based on my hardware >installs all drivers automatically, even a semi-recent video driver. I mean yeah, having all drivers already in the kernel is useful but what if it ISNT in the kernel? Then you're fucked.
Chase Allen
>what if it ISNT in the kernel? Then you're fucked. Basically every modern kernel is modular. If your driver isn't built in you can usually use some kernel interface to insert it into the kernel at run time.
>start windows >take a long time to boot >log into my session >press windows key >have to wait a minute for the menu to appear >click on the program I want to launch >menu get stuck >click somewhere else on the screen to make it disappear >still here >wait another minute >menu disappear >wait another minute >program finally launch
>few hours later >close a program >program is not responding >decide to browse online while it close >can't switch to the browser >explorer is not responding
>connect a usb key >searching for drivers >after 3 minutes it finally decide to mount it >take off the usb key >few minutes later plug back the same usb key >searching for drivers
should I go on ?
Tyler Reyes
he is actually right. I got a few laptops that had blurry fonts by default. For an OS that is supposed to work out of the box that's not what you would expect.
Jonathan Ward
lol dude you know ubuntu is literally included with Windows now right?
Daniel Harris
Linux's graphics drivers are objectively shit and that's a deal breaker
Hunter Jackson
Nvidia's closed source drivers are ok. AMDGPU is great in that it's open source, but it's very behind in performance.
Jackson Fisher
Driver pack solution (DRP) has to be my second most used program (I work in pc repair). I wouldn't say it's shady. First thing after installing windows on a pentium d or similar piece of shit is running drp for drivers. It's not worth my time downloading the recent ones.
Robert Kelly
>install linux on old netbook >no drivers for fucking anything >any sort of video drivers make Xorg crash >try other distros, even fucking ubuntu >still no dice
>install windows >it just werks
Joshua Hernandez
Changing fonts
Easton Cox
It installed Opera and Firefox without consulting me, and Firefox was not the official install. I know it had Yandex as the default search engine, and god knows what else they might've changed.
Ayden Smith
Making a folder named CON
Levi Brooks
What the fuck
Joshua Jackson
>mount NTFS drive on Ubangro LiveCD >make a folder named CON on the user's desktop >reboot into Windows
Devious?
Jayden Kelly
That's what you get for using the POO OS Yeah, WinPOO wasn't able to do it
Levi Bailey
>Yeah, WinPOO wasn't able to do it[Advertise on Sup Forums] But what would happen? Would it totally rekt Windows?
Ayden Turner
>He can't even make a folder Pajeet try making "COM1", "COM2", ... and cry a bit more
Aiden Young
Why does it matter? It isn't devious at all. If you tamper with the files on someone's computer, you can just format his disk or delete system32 or whatever How is that devious?
Cameron Stewart
I can agree that is a scummy thing it does. Idk what version you have but you should be able to go in expert mode pick your drivers and install only those. Or at least install the drivers you need 1 by 1. You do have the option to install just drivers but I guess you didn't look hard enough. That's how I use it at least.
Aaron Wood
Privacy.
Carson Hall
test
Chase Ortiz
Upgrading within a minute and not crashing the start menu
Charles Garcia
It didn't offer expert mode until after it began downloading those browsers. There wasn't a cancel options and I didn't think much of it at the beginning, but the precedent spooked me. I can only hope that that was the extent of their scumminess.