Opera thread. What version of opera are you on? Are you sill using good old 12.18? Or have you given in to Chropera? Is Vivaldi a good spiritual successor to old Opera or is it still shit?
Why do you prefer Opera to Firefox or Chrome? Favorite/least favorite features of Opera?
>What version of opera are you on? 38 >Is Vivaldi a good spiritual successor to old Opera or is it still shit? Autistic shit
>Why do you prefer Opera to Firefox or Chrome? >no SJW influence >no google >able to pin things to the start page without extensions
>Favorite/least favorite features of Opera? >favorite Built-in ad-blocker complements uBlock nicely. HTML5 video pop-out is pretty swell As mentioned, website pinning Fast thanks to it's chrome/blink ancestry Simple layout >Least favorite They haven't officially included the VPN yet The "super user" settings are hidden behind an autistic "konami code" Sometimes downloads stall at 99% and just sit there indefinitely when I'm using it on my shitty netbook.
Adam Lewis
Moment I read that Opera was being sold to the Chinese, that shit was gone.
Vivaldi is slow sure, but it's almost everything I could want in a browser. >Tab stacking >Speed Dial (multiple sets) >Vertical tabs >Bookmarks and download in a side panel
Blake Gomez
China in her eyes...
Nicholas Taylor
12.16 reporting in >why The abundance of features >favorite features Ad blocking Opera Mail Opera Turbo Tab stacks Sidebar
Ryan Watson
Chropera is a good browser, but I plan to switch to Brave. Vivaldi is shit.
Matthew Cruz
>I plan to switch to Brave I see that this browser is available for download already but seems to be pre-beta, do you have any idea as to when approximately will be released as stable?
Camden Stewart
Vivaldi is great. It has customization features, i can rice it much more than Opera and Brave
Dominic Edwards
Browsers without customization features or browser developers who remove customization because of simple users are the real autistic shit.
Vivaldi developers add instead tons of features i want to have in my browser. I shit on that simple UI and nice design trend. I want something flexible which lets me re-arrange most elements.
Xavier Collins
chrome vs vivaldi this is osx-tier shit on windows, thanks to the horseshit that npm apps are
i've submitted this exact gif as a bug to vivaldi and it's still not fixed
Joshua King
how does one manage to fuck up an interface element that should be os-specific? how the fuck is it 2016 and developers are still this fucking incompetent?
Eli Hughes
Using Opera Stable, both on Windows and Android.
I didn't liked Opera Presto much. Even with all that customization, there was always something that annoyed me.
Opera is just a better Chrome, period. Turbo, VPN, video pop out, download list, tab list, Speed Dial, how it looks and how it uses native notifications.
I would like Google Docs offline mode.
Sebastian Hall
i wonder how much nvidia pays stores to sell just one 1060 with the advertised price and then everything is jacked up 30-40%?
Carter Cruz
Holy shit, this triggers me.
That is why I disliked Opera Presto. I know it's nitpicking but these kind of details makes me uninstall that shit
Noah Gutierrez
Opera hasn't been sold to the Chinese yet. The takedown failed.
Camden Cox
i LOVED opera presto chropera and vivaldi make me fucking switch to chrome
Eli Bennett
I remember when I last tried Vivaldi on Windows 7 it literally had a Windows 10 window border. They created their own window wrapper instead of just letting Windows use the native one.
They claimed it was written in HTML and it was for speed and efficiency. Yet Vivaldi is still heavier and slower to load than Opera, Chropera, and IE.
If that's not autistic shit I do not know what is.
Kayden Perez
>these kind of details makes me uninstall that shit exactly what i did after i recorded the gif. i use the url bar to navigate a lot, and not being able to do that using my fucking mouse makes me a sad boy
Brayden Fisher
>using opera LOL some chink company bought them
Liam James
gif guy again here actually had an argument with a macfag in my office about that url bar feature and the motherfucker kept defending the lack of the feature, because "why would i do that?" unbelievable, these stupid macfags
Nathaniel Murphy
Vivaldi works well for me on my MacBook. Not so much on windows yet. Has everything I want. It's nice I can use extensions with it.
Logan Ramirez
can you do the thing chrome does here? i know i tried the thing on a mac, but not in vivaldi specifically. system-wide, it behaves the same as the url bar on vivaldi. that's fucking cancer
and if you can't, how is this acceptable to you?
Anthony Adams
The acquisition failed.
The same reason they defend iOS and the limited features. Fuck, they can't even set the default browser.
Chase Davis
>they defend iOS and the limited features >meta tag on android to disable zoom removes the touch lag in a webpage >on ios, with zoom disabled, the delay for double-tap to zoom is still there >still not fixed in 2016 fucking shithead cock-gobbling macfag retards
>Opera and the Chinese group have instead come up with an alternative deal worth $600 million which strips out some products and services in a bid to overcome regulatory hurdles.
>It will acquire Opera's mobile phone and desktop computer browser business, its performance and privacy apps division, its technology licensing business, as well as its stake in Chinese joint venture nHorizon.However, the consortium will no longer buy Opera's advertising and marketing business, its TV operations, nor its game-related apps.
Daniel Bell
Read it. That is just another deal. Just like the last one, this one can fail too, and until the acquisition is complete Opera isn't owned by them.
Colton Turner
I used to use Opera but switched to Chrome because too many incompatible websites. I loved Opera's notes, mouse gestures, and clean interface.
I tried Vivaldi but it feels heavy and keeps crashing. Not exactly the perfect spiritual successor to classic Opera but it might get there one day.
Luke Morris
Vivaldi is not open source and therefore belongs in the trash.
Ethan Moore
>it might get there one day not if they keep using node, it won't. node sucks ass
Jace Cooper
I see: this isn't parkinsons-friendly at all. But then again, neither are nearly all other UI elements of any mainstream OS or application.
Lower DPI could help you.
Owen Young
>He throws 3Dmark over Blender >He throws Music Bee over Amarok >He throws Crash Team Racing over TuxCart
Holy shit dude, what a fucking taste
Liam Adams
I have nothing to contribute to this thread apart from this logo I just rendered
Anthony Foster
Is not about Parkinson, is just the natural way to use the mouse. There is no reason why any program shouldn't work like that when selecting one line of text. Fuck off.
Jacob Fisher
there's no reasoning with a retarded macfag
Matthew Gonzalez
>12.18 wait what when did this happen
Kayden Walker
Used to be on Opera 12.17, but between the multiple HTTPS incompatibilities and other webpage rendering bugs that were becoming more and more common I switched to Pale Moon over half a year ago.
At some point HTTPS pages were loading much slower than their non-secure counterparts, in some sites.
Ryder Brooks
Around the time it was first announced Opera was selling out to the chinks
Owen Martin
Fuck Open Source. It is only of interest for people who are too lazy to create their own products.
I use what works best for me, that means Vivaldi, it has features. FUCK... OPEN... SOURCE!
Jonathan Bailey
Chropera on PC and on my phone. On phones it's a rather obvious choice, basically you're fucking retarded if you use anything else, but on PC it's not so clear. Basically, it's the least worst browser now. All PC browsers are fucking awful, simple as that. At least Opera is logical and relatively fast. Firefox has better UI but the engine is unbearably slow, the more tabs you have opened the worse it gets. Chrome's UI has become simply unusable, that shoehorned multi user mode, that fucking new tab page, that download manager. Opera just steadily does everything right. I dislike some gimmick features like VPN and video pop-up, but these can be disabled in flags. Also most of the settings are hidden - this probably scared away countless people. Can't pinpoint a favorite features - they all are essential but done properly.
David Brooks
You need to be 18 to post here.
Luis Lewis
Open Source is a lame excuse for content theft and lame rippers.
Fuck you criminal scumbag. Fuck you and fuck FOSS
Brody Rodriguez
If someone wants to protect their own creations they have the right to do that. Want something which someone else owns, recreate it on your own, but do not demand that they open their gates so you can raid them for free.
So much to /G's much loved open source topic.
Cooper Jones
t. Vivaldi devs
What's the matter? Afraid someone is going to fork your shitty little clone and make it better?
Evan Watson
It is good enough. It is full of customization features, but that is something which little narrow minded asshawks like you are unable to appreciate.
Daniel Lewis
Features don't mean shit when the browser's no more than a Chromium web app.
Jason King
Just 2 words: Otter Browser
Christopher Hughes
Still, it is customizable. Who cares how it is developed. A feature is a feature, nothing can change that.
Caleb Gutierrez
>Who cares how it is developed I do, your browser is a fucking website.
Aiden Long
That is the reason why i can rewrite the whole UI with CSS. That is the reason why i use it.
Being like a website=almost limitless options to change it
Blake Morgan
It's not a good thing, you're just pretending it is.
Ayden Hernandez
>using chrome botnet HA
Jose Bell
It is a good thing. Beause i can change more than you can change in your pathetic browser, whatever you are using.
Julian Lopez
No it's not. It's actually the main reason your browser is such a pain to use. >he's actually ripping on Opera 12 kek, I use the browser yours pretends to be.
Aaron Wood
VIVALDI SHILLS GET THE FUCK OUT IT'S LITERAL SHIT
Jacob Bennett
Well i see it as no pain. I have no problems at all. I have a custom UI, it works flawless for me.
Isaac Sanchez
Whatever you say shill
Jonathan Mitchell
I have more features than your product, so my browser (Vivaldi) is superior. You are just a simple fag which should be burried.
You are the reason why software losing almost all ricing features because you cunts are too stupid to make use of features.
Carson Diaz
>not using lightning+
Jayden Hughes
nice toilet seat
Elijah Ross
Shill? I do not care if you are using another browser. I just said i will not give up Vivaldi because I am in love with features.
If you hate features and use a simpleton browser with a static UI and a shiny design, feel free to do so, be happy :)
Jace Powell
>What version of opera are you on? Are you sill using good old 12.18? Or have you given in to Chropera? Latest stable Chropera >Is Vivaldi a good spiritual successor to old Opera or is it still shit? Both. But since the chinks bought Opera I hope Vivaldi get their shit together soon. >Why do you prefer Opera to Firefox or Chrome? Favorite/least favorite features of Opera? It functions sort of like the old Opera at least superficially. Battery saver and detachable video window are cool. Opera's sync is crap.
Connor Morris
you're making no sense, vivaldi is objectively shit >more features it literally doesn't even have cookie whitelisting, are you serious?
Asher Ramirez
Chromefag since 2009 here. Convince me to switch over to Opera.
Joshua Murphy
You're clearly a shill, the only ones that like Vivaldi are the ones that are paid to.
Elijah Jackson
Thing is, everyone who is using unmodified Chrome or unmodified Chromium should be terminated from this planet.
I would never install something which is offered by Google themselves.
Jaxon Evans
More features doesn't equal a better product.
Jaxon King
Cookie whitelisting.. Fuck that. I want to modify my UI. I do not care for simpleton crap features.
Julian Taylor
this, it's unstsble and bloated as fuck on loonixes
Connor Cox
Of course this makes a product a better product. The more you can change, the more options you have, the better.
How narrow minded are you?
Caleb Scott
Interesting. I never experienced a crash so far in the latest snapshots.
Also, i never would use an operating system which is used by a minority.
Gabriel Hill
More features don't necessarily mean a worse or better product, it's what the features are and how they're implemented that count. Vivaldi was done poorly, this is undeniable. It may have a lot of features, it may have the features you want, but they did a horrible job with the implementation.
Cooper Davis
Vivaldi.. Chrome/Chromium.. Opera... Firefox... Edge... Safari.... all the same garbage.
If you want a real good browser pick either Brave, Qupzilla or Otter Browser
Aiden Ross
Still, i will not get rid of it. Get over it :)
Jayden Mitchell
Good for you, enjoy your shitware
Jackson Barnes
Also, it is impossible to get all the features of Vivaldi in normal Chromium. The only choice team Vivaldi had was to use a wrapper: one heavily pimped web-app and 2 extensions.
That is all what you can do with Chrome. If you try to hardcode that features you will sooner or later have to give up as Chrome updates way too fast.
Ryder Reyes
>Brave Literally replacing ads with different ads.
Adam Johnson
Then they shouldn't have based it on Chromium.
Benjamin Baker
If Mozilla and Opera never would have decided to get rid of built inside customization features, the question of changing browsers never would have arrived in the first place.
This is the real sad thing.
Carson Collins
Why in the fuck couldn't they just open source Presto?
Anthony James
closed source shit which sells ads, a piece of shit written in QT or a bare browser that's terribly lacking in features? damn
Ian Williams
Mozilla deconstructs their once customizable code base. That was the reason why Vivaldi has decided not to use Mozillas code base. Chromium and using a couple of wrappers was their only option.
Adam Gray
Then Vivaldi never should've been a thing.
Angel Moore
Brave is Open Source you fag. And browsers made with QT are far from crappy.
Also, in Brave you can easily back out that ads code. If you do not like it, compile it on your own.
Anthony Howard
Wrong. We are in need for a browser with many features.
All browsers today go with simplictiy and minimalism only. This is not acceptable for a real power user.
Austin Moore
>Brave is Open Source wat, did that happen recently? I was pretty sure it wasn't open source when it first got shilled here
Matthew Harris
I'm sorry but it's garbage. >no fast scroll buttons >shit download manager >shit new tab page but at least you can set bookmarks instead >no sync
Nicholas Morgan
We are, but Vivaldi is so shitty it's even worse than not having the features. They seriously should've just started with SeaMonkey.
Ethan Ramirez
Seriously, i find you simple fags disgusting. Always remember: simplictiy and minimalism and design only is a fucking concept for brain dead butt-monkeys :D
Dylan Moore
Simple? I use Opera 12.16 because it has more features than any other browser could dream of.
Hudson Rivera
Brave was always Open Source. They have been since the beginning on Github.
Nathan Hall
Opera 12.16 is deprecated. It is Chinese crapware soon.
Matthew Turner
that's why we have 12.18 now
Jaxson Baker
Deprecated yet still the best choice. What a wonderful time we live in.
Daniel Perry
Of course, how narrow-minded of me. We should shoehorn in every possible feature that someone might use, even if literally one person uses it because that will clearly make a better product.
Picture related, it's you.
Charles Martinez
12.17+ is Windows only
Ryan Watson
Seamonkey will be another Firefox Chrome UI imitation once XUL is killed, Seamonkey team is too small to keep their special features.
Parker Jenkins
Still, Opera is Chinese soon. No matter which version, it will be in Chinese hands. No thanks!
Elijah Jenkins
It's a fucking web browser. Speed, simplicity, and efficiency is all that matters.
There are no "power users". It's a fucking browser. The closest thing a real "power user" would want is a clean and efficient browser that is expendable. That's what Opera is.
A power user would not want a heavy, slow, inefficient browser like Vivaldi.
A Power User would want a minimal browser that they could customize to their very "special needs", not a all-in-one browser.
I've come to the conclusion that you're a Vivaldi developer, that's the only possible reason you're so hard-headed and narrow-minded.
Gavin Ortiz
>Chinese backdoored hardware is okay >but Chinese software is a no-no
Jacob Mitchell
"power user" here, I disagree entirely. Vivaldi's got the right idea with the features but implementing them as a website is where they went wrong. Seriously if someone could just clone Opera 12.16, that'd be great.