So how bad of an idea would it be to buy one of these?

So how bad of an idea would it be to buy one of these?

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A very bad idea; unless you like fucking gamma rays entering your skull.

Elaborate

Oh noy here comes the imcomming tinfoil hat

never adopt a new technology.

wait for 2.0.

good idea, but how about let's talk about the full vr set up.

anons' opinions, new ideas, speculations, gripes, complaints, etc.
lets go

Give it a few years to either evolve and get significantly cheaper, or it will just die. If history has taught us anything, though, it's that porn will decide what happens, and porn is definitely happening on VR so it's probably here to stay.

>New technology
This has to be the third or forth iteration of VR is the new big thing for home entertainment since my teens. There is nothing new in the tech just a different set of companies hyping it.

Vive owner. First, let's be clear, if you get easily motion sick, are put off by simple games, or have a less-than-amazing PC just forget the idea and move on.

Motion sickness: Most games are still toying around with various ideas for locomotion. It's, so far, been the hardest problem to really solve. You can't just have a player "move" because the actual body is sitting still, or moving in a small area, having the character move causes some pretty nasty motion sickness in most people. Teleportation is currently the go-to method for movement, but it's flawed because it breaks immersion and affects a surprising number of games. Amnesia in VR would be terrifying, right? Well yeah, but that's only because you run from monsters. Teleporting completely breaks that "fear". Which leads me to the next point...

Simple: The games, thus far, are all very shallow. Don't get me wrong, they're surprisingly good. But don't expect a HL2, where you get this awesome story and solid mechanics or anything. The games are simple like Fruit Ninja or Audioshield. Don't get me wrong, they're fun as hell, but there's NO depth to them. Or you get games like Starseed, which has a cool story, but no real interaction. It's basically a 3d painting, almost.

Computer: You know this one already, you need a fairly beefy computer to even run these things, much less run them well. That said my 980ti runs everything I've thrown at it fine, so far.

You can't use it to read text, the screen is too screen-door-y. You can use it to watch movies, but the blurriness will be offputting. There's only a handful of non-VR games that work well mechanically, and that's mostly stuff like driving games and flight simulators.

I know it sounds like I'm shitting on it, but it's a great system, and I love mine. But with all that being said, unless you're DYING for the VR experience (and if you were, you probably wouldn't be on here asking us about it) I doubt you'll enough enjoyment from it to justify the price tag

>nothing new in the tech

yeah, no, shut the fuck up. I'm 33 years old and have never used anything like the HTC Vive in my life.

I'm about to decide whether I buy a headset (vive or oculus) or not, I own the DK1 and I liked it quite a bit when it came out, despite the flaws, but pretty much it is simply gathering dust at the moment, since no software is coming out for it and the specs of it are pretty bad. I used to enjoy driving games and flying around in spaceships in some demos.

I have not tried dk2 or anything other than the DK1, should I buy the vive or oculus? Or is it a bad purchase? I'm kinda looking forward to beating HL2 in vr though I'm not sire if this headset is going to end up gathering dust like my dk 1

itd be fun but its smarter to wait a couple gens

All good points
Full vr setup, right, me too. I am even planning an arcade business since once you add $1200 for a cyberith, $300 for oculus touch, or use a vive with lighthouse, or mod your own device with sixense for $1000.... Add that to a pc with 1080 and the rich kids that can afford it are too stupid and/or lazy to get it all working

hows the vr porn for the vive?

If it's good, buy it.

people have been talking about virtual reality for who knows how long. thousands of years

now its here and no one gives a shit but pc gaymers. that should give you an idea of whether or not you should buy one.

i would say wait until after sony releases theirs and it gets a little more mainstream. even then it will still only be a gimmicky meme with limited support

IDK senpai, I own one. Then I tried a Sony vr head set. It's great.

Are you me?

>I've never used it so it must be new!
Your brain must be new.

i have a vive and i can say that the hardware is great and the experience is amazing

and the games are horrible and non-existent...

I went with the Rift, I really like it, I've spent hundreds of hours on it. Not many full games out yet, but the short ones are cheap and good value for money. Playing Technolust at the moment. I'd say get one if you can afford it and don't mind upgrading next year.

What about porn though?

The only reason I want to get one of those is for porn.

And don't tell me you haven't tried it.

It's a gimmick, it's not 3D, it's just a 2D 360 view, I guess it's better than watching it on a normal screen, but it certainly doesn't feel like you're in the room with them.

VR is not a new technology.

Also if everyone waited for 2.0, nobody would buy 1.0 and there would be no 2.0. You're giving retarded advice that only sounds smart.

Vaginas have been about for millions of years, just because you haven't seen one doesn't change that.

what about the anime ones? Those have to be rendered so I wouldn't be surprised if those are 3d

You can play VR porn games

>He doesn't watch actual VR porn

I haven't checked any anime ones out

>oy vey stop giving him sound advice

I watched the ones on Porn hub, signed up for the free trial, they weren't 3D like games are, there's no dimensions to the people or objects

>Don't buy it wait for the second version.
Is not sound advice, its what retards say when they want to sound smart but don't actually have anything smart to say.

>in the room with them
i cant wait for my own personal cuck device

Yeah, because waiting for a better VR, with actual VR content that wasn't just scrapped together in the last second is bad advice right?
Did you also buy a 4k TV back in 2013 or is VR the only thing you're a retard about?

Both of them have issues, and second generation technology for something new like this could bring sweeping enhancements

Just because it's a popular notion doesn't mean it's wrong

Oh I forgot i'm on Sup Forums You faggots claim to be intellectuals but when confronted with a counterargument the best you can come up is shifting the goalpoast an strawman.

Do the world a favor and kill yourself you inbred fucking nigger.

>You can't use it to read text, the screen is too screen-door-y
What do you mean by that?

Having used both:

PS3 on release had more games than Vive unless you consider standing in a spot and flailing your arms like a tard for 15 minutes an experience worth paying the equivalent of a decent PC. Vive will be really good once actual games with content will get released.

Customer version of Oculus Rift is just behind the corner and there's a bunch of simulators and FPS games you can already play with it, though it's a mixed bag, ETS2 and Alien: Isolation were amazing on DK2. DCS and War Thunder made me nauseous after 30 seconds.

also
>porn
>movies
You're still watching a 2D projection. You might as well buy a cheap chinese set for those.

>confronted with arguments
What arguments? All you managed so far was 'you're a retard and wrong'

If the resolution is low on a device that close to your face you can see the individual pixels, and the small black lines that seperate them

like looking through a screen door

vr.mkeblx.net/oculus-sim/
it's not a great simulator as it looks different on your face but it shows the idea

Are those dragon dildos with VR?
What a steal

youtube.com/watch?v=W0yBX68g3vk

amirite?

>you can see the individual pixels
Wait, that really happens on Vive?

I don't see any pixelation on my Rift

Vive and Oculus, both of them
it's not actually that bad in person, it's not like it's blaringly obvious
but have fun trying to read small details and text or far away details

>on my Rift
If it was the Vive I would actually believe you but on the Rift you're just lying to yourself or blind if you don't see them

I don't, and reading text is fine, the only thing that has obvious pixelation is the apartment that your main menu is in. I'm playing Technolust, and it as a lot of small text in it and I have no problem reading any of it.

It is possible to see them if you really look for them, but I've never noticed them or the screen door while playing a game unless I try to, and it's not distracting in any way.

If this simulation gives me a headache within 10 seconds of moving around, should I even bother with VR?

I wouldn't be suprised if different eyesight strengths and different glasses didn't effect this

You're right it's not a big deal but i'm not going to say it doesn't exist desu

Custom maid 3D 2 is supposedly pretty good

I know Sup Forums hates fun but the vive actually is pretty nice if you have the system to run it.

It's vastly overexaggerated for shitposting purposes

Wait for v2 hardware if you get motion sick, they may have motion compensating headphones by then that trigger your inner ear movement, the main motion sickness problem

>fucking gamma rays
Stay in school.

So you completely forgot the 90's?

Example: virtual boy.

I think the motion sickness is something people can get over, when I started playing Dread Halls I got it pretty bad, but I stuck with it and now it doesn't bother me at all.

Comparing the virtual boy to the vive is ridiculous

>screen really close to your face
check
>gimmicky poorly implemented and supported
check
>niche of a niche market
check
>motion capture
You're right, it's the virtual boy + motion control

This is what I have at the moment, anybody have any good recommendations?

sell your rift and buy a vive

I'm buying a Vive, keeping the Rift.

How difficult would it be to, say, run Super Mario 64 in first person with one? I've wanted to do that since I was a kid.

spoken like someone who had never tried it
>screen really close to your face
This is bad because?
>gimmicky
once you try it you'll see its like literally no other product ever put on the market, VR is a total game changer for both gaming and other markets
>poorly implemented and supported
I don't know what you mean by poorly implemented, and there's literally hundreds of VR games right now, with more coming out all the time
>niche of a niche market
at $800 this is somewhat true, but that price will only come down with time
>motion capture
The Vive's motion controls are unlike any other motion controls I've seen, they are 1:1 with no lag or jittering to a few millimeters or less
stop talking shit about a device you've never ever tried in person

The comparison to Virtual Boy is accurate. That was the whole point retard.
Not even criticizing your meme device just telling you the only difference between that and virtual boy is motion capture.
>literally hundreds of VR games
They are all exactly like said.
Sure maybe in a few years it might be an actual thing that developers care about and people actually buy but right now it is just a gimmick. There isn't a single game for it that is 'mind blowing'.

Again, have you even tried either the rift or the vive? You really can't comment on the experience until you've tried it; for me, just the steamvr setup tutorial thing was mind blowing, and it's only up from there.

Yes I have. Friend of a rich dumb fag so I tried at his place. My experience was pretty much like So sure in the future once they fix everything there is to be fixed and there is actual games to play instead of games that make phone games look good in comparison.

even shitty kids games like Lucky's Tale was mind blowing for me when I first played it, same with EVE Valkyrie. You just sound bitter because your parents won't buy you one.

I'm sorry we're not all easily impressed consumers as you are, friend.

Just to piss you off even more, I have a 70" curved 4K TV, and I fucking love it.

It is, and with some tweaking you can get the translations to work as well

Well considering you didn't brag about it, it's not OLED or nano crystal.
Enjoy your shitty tv

Vive owner here too. Totally agree with this.

I fucking hate teleporting. Remember back when iPhone and Android first came out and games all basically had keyboard controls with keys mapped on the screen? That's exactly what teleporting is: old controls mapped onto new inputs.

We're already seeing better controls like room centric gameplay, but all the games are super shallow still.

There are two types of VR videos, 360 2D and fixed 3D.

I far prefer the fixed 3D. You can't look around but you can see the girls dick bouncing in three dimensions.

That nvidia VR circus demo looks cray cray fun

youtube.com/watch?v=0Ao_uAb6Jkw

That and the VR 90s arcade alone it almost worth the price of the setup

great points friend, from all the demos and stuff that gets released and videos I've watched of people playing around I got pretty much your same impressions.
It seems that we already have decent VR hardware but the software is not even nearly there.
So far this looks like some gimmick riding the fad train like motion detectin (stupd ass ps eye/kinect) or 3D tvs.

Poe's law

Joe's Bar

Has no idea what the fuck he's talking about

U wot m8?

>some gimmick

Play Technolust, the Climb or Edge of Nowhere, you'll see that it's not a gimmick or a fad, this is the future of gaming, you can see how this will take off.

I think the standing up and moving around shit is a gimmick, but sitting down with a VR HMD on and playing is great.

>the girl's dick

'Sup normalfag

A fucken mazing.

Seriously

WTF..2d 360?

You fucktard. You want 180 Fisheye SBS. Or Barrel SBS. Or 360 SBS

You fucking phone and cardboard VR users need to stay out of VR conversations. You really don't know wtf you are talking about.

I would argue that the issue isn't that it's a gimmick, it's an issue of locomotion.

I tend to focus on it a lot when discussing my Vive, but for me it's the biggest issue. You can't, in my opinion, have a truly grand scale, in depth, triple-A game with teleportation or serious motion sickness issues. Until someone figures out a solid method of moving around that's immersive, and doesn't cause motion sickness, you'll just see a ton of shallow games that are nifty, but not really deep in their own right.

It would also help too to have better screens with higher density. I kinda feel like VR in general came out like a year or two too early. But it is what it is. Hopefully we'll get 1440, or maybe even 4k screens soon. If they figure out movement and get use 4k screens, we'll have a genuine revolution in terms of gaming. Otherwise, till then, it's little more than a novelty that you screw around with when your friends are over.

its awesome. it'll be much better 2nd gen but that probably wont be for another year or two. imo its worth it if you have the money sitting around or are just really enthusiastic about VR. for me it was an easy decision, i love my vive. there are only so many games worth playing right now but new stuff is coming out and getting updated each week and despite there being RELATIVELY little content compared to regular PC gaming, it's still more than enough to make it worth buying IMO. as far as hardware goes, we're there, you know? like, the hardware is awesome, works great and is just fucking incredible to use. content is the slow part but that's part of being first gen for a brand new medium. up to you. if you're concerned about content, just look through steam, watch some youtube videos and figure out for yourself if that's "enough" for you. might be, might not. that's my most honest opinion for you OP.

anybody that tries to imply that current-gen VR isn't basically "first gen" and totally revolutionary for the CONSUMER SPACE is either stupid or lying, honestly. like, it's not even worth trying to argue with them, they're seriously just stupid, sorry. anybody that has tried a vive can and WILL vigorously tell you, it's fuckin incredible man.

>buys inferior system from Facebook
>ROOM SCALE JUST A GIMMICK GUYS, SITTING IN A SWIVEL CHAIR WITH A GAMEPAD IS THE FUTURE
lol, oculus owners are so incredibly in denial.

its alright. if you get a video that is well-shot and encoded, it's pretty fucking incredible. like, if its done right, it's awesome, but theres a lot of really shitty low-res and poorly-filmed stuff that shouldnt even be bothered with. theres also stuff like VR Model Viewer which basically lets you walk around and bukkake 3D naked models of video game girls but i can't get the controllers to work so it's kind of a pain in the ass. whatever

>lol, oculus owners are so incredibly in denial.
I'm buying the Vive too, and the PS headset, I genuinely prefer sitting down to game, especially if they start releasing full Fallout type/length games, who the fuck wants to stand up and move around for hours and hours at a time while gaming?

Can you please stop spreading misinformation? I have tested it with about 10 friends (age 25ish), and my parents (age 60ish) and only two of them got motion sickness. At first it might be slightly disorienting but you get used to it after a single play session. I get motion sickness EXTREMELY easily and Vive doesn't give me any. "Extremely" to the point of I have to ride in the front seat of cars to not get sick. Also you don't need that great of a computer depending what games you play. My i5 and 780ti plays everything I throw at it. I have a friend with a 2600k and 750ti and he can also run everything he's tried. The games do lack depth, admittedly, but the experience is no doubt worth the cost.

controllers are coming out in the fall with a second sensor included. Also, new SDK allows up to 4 sensors for gigantic room scale. Oculus may have been shitty lately but by the end of the year itll be the more premium expensive option.

oculus as a company is cancer and shouldn't be supported, and touch still has reported occlusion issues with two cams lol. if you have to buy three extra cams just to do what the vive does, why don't you just buy a vive? you get a fun product that is built for room scale rather than tacking it on later, and you're not supporting the early death of an industry.

I get motion sickness EXTREMELY easily too. Like I'll sometimes get motion sick when _I'M_ the one driving.

The reason I don't get motion sick from the Vive is specifically because all the games avoid motion, or use teleportation to move. I apologize if I didn't make it clear before, I wasn't trying to imply that, in it's current state, I get motion sick from the Vive. I was trying to say there's few games that handle movement without teleportation that don't cause motion sickness.

I can play for a few hours and at worst, I'll feel a little woozy. But Windlands? My friend got it, I played for less than a minute and was ready to puke.

the reason it isn't out yet is because its not finished. Its not like touch was an afterthought. It was announced way before the cv1 came out.

>who the fuck wants to stand up and move around for hours and hours at a time while gaming?

this, I agree the room scale shit is a gimmick, just like Kinect, there'll be some fun games to play while walking around your room, but any decent game that takes up 6 hour sessions, you don't want to be standing up for that.

Yeah, I'm fine with sitting in a chair with motion controllers. Its nice to have the ability to walk around if you want but its not going to be something I'd want to do all the time

Yep I got mine exclusively for cockpit based sims. I am not having the issues with content that everyone bitches about. DCS, Arsetto, Pcars, iRacing, Dirt Rally.and even stuff like Elite D and WarThunder are more than tech demos and arcade games(okay debatable on a couple there). Content is out there, just not so much if not into sims which the ideal VR sitting exp type of game.

But I have the Vanishing of Ethan Carter which is a freakin beautiful env and is a FPS type game with traditional movement, not teleport, in it and while at 1st the floaty thing is kinda odd but you adapt quickly and it works just fine and you start to forget about it once in.

No reason any 'AAA" type title couldn't be done in VR. That would open content up. The devs need to realize, just being in the world immersed is fine for some games and not try to incorporate 'VR Tactics" in the game. They really aren't needed.

Check out the Vanishing of Ethan Carter if you got a Vive or Rift and see what I mean.

That could actually work.. best of luck user

Dude that shit is gonna look so dumb lol what are you gonna crash a plane with no survivors or something lel kek.
Nobody cared who you were till you put on the headset?

20% getting motion sickness isn't exactly a good indication

uh yeah, how else are you supposed to tell if it's a shop?

vive owner here, I love it, spending a bunch of time playing elite dangerous atm. Having a joystick, throttle and pedals is incredible in VR. It's not without a bunch of drawbacks like the small sweetspot for focus in a couple games.

the only time I've been motion sick was in project cars but I haven't played it a lot because I think it sucks with a 360 controller anyhow.

it's shit