So I've always OC'ed all of my CPUs (p4, e6600 and i5 750) without issues, and today I want to get myself a new PC so I'm looking at Skylake.
So what the fuck even happened in the last years? From what I gather, you can't overclock CPUs unless you buy the unlocked version, called "K"?
So what? I can't get a i5 6400 and overclock it to be just as good as a i7 6700K like we used to? If it's just the multiplier that's locked surely I can still increase vcore and base frequency, no?
you can still do that yes. unlocked multiplier is more stable
Sebastian Watson
Think of it this way.
You can run through a pit of fire. You can. Just that K will give you some fire resistant shoes.
Dominic Fisher
You have to get an AMD CPU if you want to OC.
Nicholas Stewart
i need dis
Asher Gutierrez
You can overclock bclk but it will give you only 100 extra mhz. Or you could find one of the few motherboards which can unlock cpu multiplier. But you will need to flash some outdated/modded bios and your cpu will lose thermal monitoring, power saving features and avx. Loss of avx will severely cripple cpu perfomance.
Brandon Johnson
there is no reason for getting a unlocked i5
Camden Hill
aw shit it's really that bad? i5 6600K is the best way forward then? that's a bummer, 6400 is not even 200€
Bentley Rivera
Buy a Xeon E5 1230 v5 (also skylake,equals i7) And Asrock E3V5 Fatality Gaming/OC-board it is the only board that can overclock skylake xeons and has a separate bclock generator -> microcode updates do not destroy its overclocking capabilities like in the Z170-chipset boards that have that skylake bclock-oc bios.
and i have to add that e3 1220 v5 is the i5 comparable model,about 200 euros,the 1230 is around 270 from mindfactory
Brayden Richardson
Times changed, old man, wtf is vcore even lmao Get with the times and buy a hektik SkyLake K for enhanced gaming
Nathan Ross
Xeons do not work in z-170 motherboards,and the microcode updates to windows will destroy the bclock overclocking of non k processors
that Asrock is the only board that has a C232 chipset and can overclock xeons
Kevin Davis
Sounds pretty interesting, I'll read up on that, thanks. The Z170 chipset seems a little bit janky to me already, I was looking at boards with 2xM.2 slots for futureproofing and I could not get a spec sheet telling me clearly how many lanes they have anywhere, but rather people whining on forums that the chipset can't handle that stuff, more reading to do on that.
Brayden Rodriguez
no m.2 on that asrock sadly
Alexander Cox
You can overclock the 6400. It's a pain in the ass however because you have to get the right mobo and the right bios. There might also be some windows updates that will disable your overclock so you'll have to avoid those.
Eli Robinson
Modern intel are shit for this and other reasons.
Wait for Zen.
Cooper Hernandez
Yeah that was my plan... but fuck now that I made my mind up about getting a new pc it's so hard to wait.
Like a fucking kid I swear. I haven't bought anything yet so there's hope.
Jose Evans
It's not just the shitty overclocking, though, it's the lack of multiple full M.2 support in the chipset, lack of USB3.1, etc.
Honestly just get an i5-2500k and a SATA SSD and enjoy that until zen
Nathan Bailey
Any overclock potential that chip might have, is thrown out of the window thanks to TIM'd IHS (something not present on those chips you mentioned, well except for netburst ones, some of them have TIM'd IHS too).
Austin Perry
That's interesting, I was wondering the same thing. Do they have 2 * 4 dedicated lanes each or is it like 4 dedicated for the both of them so you drop down to 2 + 2 when you have 2 devices in, like SLI and XFire with memecards.
I tried looking at one MSI board and got literal cancer from their website, had to go to bed.
Ayden Clark
I'm buying for the next 6-10 years desu, I'm trying to get the cream of the current crop so I'd rather wait some more than buy "old" tech. Technically my i5 750 works just fine, I'm getting a new pc for pleasure.
Luke Lopez
I have an fx-8350 and it doesn't over clock for shit. I can get a stable 4.2ghz but anything after that is stable for an hour at the most. Of all the CPUs I've overclocked, AMD fx series is the worst.
Jaxson Rodriguez
Then wait for the platform from a company that isn't shit and that will come with all of the modern features already in the chipset.
Sebastian Howard
avx is useless for most applications.
Ian Peterson
>fx series This makes me doubt you know anything on the subject.
> I can get a stable 4.2ghz but anything after that is stable for an hour at the most And upping vcore doesnt help? Or stabilizing it with LLC?
Jose Flores
AVX is intrisics like SSE and all that stuff right? You can "disable" that somehow? I had no idea, thought it was hardwired in the cpu itself.
Bentley King
>wait >for a company that isnt shit pic related is OP taking your advice
Dylan Rivera
there is no reason to even want to overclock modern intel processors, they are already perfect
Gabriel Walker
btw OP im running my i5 6400 at 4.4ghzand my benchmark results are on par with an i5 6600K. it was unstable at 4.5ghz due to the 2400mhz ram so I lowered the bclk to 163 and it's been rock stable ever since. zero problems
Colton Wood
What's the point when it won't even match stock intel performance?
Samuel Powell
Do not wait for Zen: >It wont have soldered heatspreader It will have 'south bridge' on the cpu, which will mean two things: >POST times will be horribly long, just like on AM1 >Mobo manufacturers will save every penny on the boards and so there wont be any with decent VRM >If the engineering sample leaks are real, it wont clock high >Sandy Bridge level IPC or higher is not fact yet either, and if its worse, its literal gargabe